5th Wheel or Bumper Pull Toyhauler?

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chopperdog45

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Everyone will have a different opinion on this question but l will tell you my experience since I've been towing RVs since 1980. I have owned both Travel Trailers and Fifth wheels and have pulled with half ton and three quarter ton both gas and diesel and all have been Dodge Ram trucks. I started with travel trailers and when I bought my first three quarter ton I purchased a fifth wheel and really enjoyed it due to ease of hook up and unhooking along with the fact it pulled nice on the road. As I got older my knees started giving me trouble and with a fifth wheel unless you have a cusom built rig they will all have the bathroom and bed in the upstairs if you want to call it that so every bathroom trip and bedtime means going up and down some usually steep steps which I became tired of. My wife and I started looking at TT and purchased a 34 ft Rockwood with two slides and I certainly appreciate the flat floor from front to rear and it is very comfortable. I purchased a Hensley Arrow equalizer hitch that attaches to the trailer tongue and once set up you never remove it to unhitch you pull two pins release two bars that hold everything together and pull away the only thing left on your truck is the hitch pin sticking out of the receiver and while camping you don't even need to remove that unless you want to. The Hensley Arrow hitch makes the trailer pull as well as a Fifth wheel and I can cut the trailer around when backing up almost as tight as a fifth wheel but not a full 90 degree jack knife which I never needed to do when I had a fifth wheel. I'm now 70 years old and am towing with a 2019 Ram 1500 4x4 crew cab 5.7 Hemi and 390 gears. Pulls the trailer great and I've pulled in Colorado, Utah, New Mexico, Arkansas all over Texas this to say I've been in many different terrains with the rig. Hope this gives you some insight on trailers but the ultimate decision is yours.

You mentioned the stairs in the 5th wheel. That's another thing we saw with the 5th wheel trailers that makes me lean more towards a TT because my wife has cerebral palsy, which affects how she walks. She can walk up and down stairs, but if we can avoid them, we do.
 

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friends have a Momentum G class 25G and it is really nice because it has a kitchen slide and a bed slide making for a little more room than others in that size range. 31' 1200# tongue wt.

The downside is the storage - very little.

The area under the bed is taken by the generator also.
 

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You will get more towing capacity with a gooseneck or 5th wheel hitch over a bumper pull....
I'd have to disagree with that. Tongue weight in a travel trailer usually makes out at 15% of the trailer weight. For a 5th wheel you are talking 20% . So for a 10K pound travel trailer I'd plan for 1500 tongue weight (actual weight on mine is 13.8%) where on a 5th wheel I'd be panning on 2000. Also, the 5th wheel hitch will be heavier..around 200 pounds vs 106 for my weight distributing hitch. So the theoretical heaviest trailer you can tow before maxing out payload is the travel trailer.

Ram 2500 CTD's have notoriously poor payload capacity. Example: sticker on my Bighorn 2500 gas 6.4L is 2,974. I've seen otherwise identical CTD's on dealer lots where the sticker says 2,204 (this is always the first thing I look at when looking at a truck). There are configurations like a limited, megacab CTD that have payloads do2n around 1650 i.e. about the same as my old Sierra 1500.

Bottom line is if the OP wants to stay under his max payload, a travel trailer is probably a better option...though I don't see where the exact number has been mentioned. Op, check your sticker or paste your VIN in here: https://www.google.com/search?q=ram...msung-nf-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
 

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You will get more towing capacity with a gooseneck or 5th wheel hitch over a bumper pull. A bumper pull will have more hardware such as torsion bars and sway brakes for towing in windy conditions plus you will have to always make sure that the trailer is level at the tongue with the back of the trailer, I've seen hundreds of accidents over the years with people involving improper towing methods. If you dont already have airbags on your truck get some. With a 5th wheel or gooseneck hitch its more less a preset thing that when you get it and adjust everything to be level before you get on the road and it will stay like that.

You don't get more towing capacity with a 5th - the limiting factor in both is the payload.

Airbags might help with leveling but they don't add any payload.
 

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Has the OP actually walked a RV sales lot yet and gone inside the travel trailers and fifth wheels? I ask this because my first RV was a 2020 Cougar 30RKD travel trailer. Loved the floor plan of this TT, but the longer we spent time in it the more it felt like a "tunnel". The ceilings are low. Kept this TT for one year and traded for my current fifth wheel. There is SO much more room in the living area and there is a fold out hide a bed. The TT only had one bed. You need to walk the RV lots if you haven't already. Good luck.
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Sorry it's off-topic, but I see you have the night package. It's awesome, but if you have your tires flipped to blackwall side out, and replace the chrome lug nuts with black ones, be prepared to be amazed. I did it to mine and love it. I still haven't figured out why Ram used chrome lug nuts on a black-out package.
 

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my husky centerline WDH weighs 47#.
 

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my husky centerline WDH weighs 47#.

I had one of those, thing makes my truck porpoise up and down like a yoyo. Could just be my combination of truck, cargo, trailer weight, tongue weight etc, but whatever it is it was completely eliminated when I switched to andersen no sway. The reason is because the centerline has springs, and my truck has springs, and that means I get dual spring action and way too much of it. The andersen uses chains, so the only springing going on now is my rear shocks and my ride has improved 100%. I'm not a fanboy but in the case of our Rams and the soft coil springs, I think the Andersen is probably a great fit for many people.

Oh, also no more creaking noises, no more silly prybars/levers, it weights less than 47 pounds, and its super fast to connect and disconnect!
 

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no springs in my Husky centerline WDH. you may have just needed to do some adjusting..shift some wt. I also added air bags to rear and usually run 25# when towing.
 
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