8- speed tranny swap

[2010 Infantry Vet]

Can I install the 8-Speed tranny in my 2010 ram? Level 10 is able to build the 8-speed to handle 1,000 hp. I tried searching, but havent been able to find an answer.

 

[charonblk07]

Currently, nobody has been able to make it work. It's easy to do with a resto-mod, but integrating it into the earlier trucks has been a no-go for everyone that's tried it.

 

[chrisp2493]

Currently, nobody has been able to make it work. It's easy to do with a resto-mod, but integrating it into the earlier trucks has been a no-go for everyone that's tried it.

So it’s been done on a restomod? Is there a controller for it or how’s the electronics work?


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[Wild one]

Currently, nobody has been able to make it work. It's easy to do with a resto-mod, but integrating it into the earlier trucks has been a no-go for everyone that's tried it.

Kurtis check with Chris.There's a 2012 running around Edmonton with a SRT 6.4 and ZF transmission swap now.Chris says it hauls ass,and we'll see it at Castrol soon,sounds like he's looking for me and Dylan,lol.

 

[RAMTRPR]

Anything is possible with time and $$$


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[2010 Infantry Vet]

So it’s been done on a restomod? Is there a controller for it or how’s the electronics work?


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Damn, not what I wanted to hear. Does it not bolt up, or is all of the stupid electrical crap keeping it from working? And what the hell is a restomod?

 

[chrisp2493]

Damn, not what I wanted to hear. Does it not bolt up, or is all of the stupid electrical crap keeping it from working? And what the hell is a restomod?

Resto-mod normally means putting a newer drive train in an older car, typically like in a older muscle cars. Since they have minimal electronics to run the vehicle it’s normally easier to get the engines and transmissions to work great after a swap. The trans should bolt right up, heck it’s already bolted up to a Hemi, but I believe it’s the trans computers and electronics that haven’t been cracked yet in swapping into the later ram trucks. I’m sure someone will figure it out soon. I don’t know much about the new 8 speed but I think it has a ton of electronics controlling it. That’s why I’m going with a simple 4 speed 46re with a manual valvebody, it will have almost 0 electronics running it, super simple


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[2010 Infantry Vet]

Resto-mod normally means putting a newer drive train in an older car, typically like in a older muscle cars. Since they have minimal electronics to run the vehicle it’s normally easier to get the engines and transmissions to work great after a swap. The trans should bolt right up, heck it’s already bolted up to a Hemi, but I believe it’s the trans computers and electronics that haven’t been cracked yet in swapping into the later ram trucks. I’m sure someone will figure it out soon. I don’t know much about the new 8 speed but I think it has a ton of electronics controlling it. That’s why I’m going with a simple 4 speed 46re with a manual valvebody, it will have almost 0 electronics running it, super simple


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Thanks for taking the time to explain. Also sucks that you cant even work on stuff without having to have the dealer use their computer to make the parts work. I had to replace a body control module, and the dealer had to do something to it with a computer so it would work. Electronics suck! Just more crap to go wrong!
Hopefully someone figures out the computer crap by the time im ready to install a built 8 speed tranny that can handle a 6.4 with a kenne bell blower. I have already looked at level 10 to beef up the 8 speed.

 

[chrisp2493]

Thanks for taking the time to explain. Also sucks that you cant even work on stuff without having to have the dealer use their computer to make the parts work. I had to replace a body control module, and the dealer had to do something to it with a computer so it would work. Electronics suck! Just more crap to go wrong! Hopefully someone figures out the computer crap by the time im ready to install a buikt tranny that can handle a 6.4 with a kenne bell blower.

That’s why some people have done a 4L80e swap. CharonBlk07 has one in his monster, and LethalHemi has one in his 3rd gen with a 468 Hemi. He’s just finishing up his getting ready to go. Several other 3rd gen guys have successfully done a 46re swap that’s behind blower motors and they are holding up great. It just sucks that you are losing some gears, going back to the old 4 speeds. But as we all know, performance and reliability normally comes at a cost


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[2010 Infantry Vet]

That’s why some people have done a 4L80e swap. CharonBlk07 has one in his monster, and LethalHemi has one in his 3rd gen with a 468 Hemi. He’s just finishing up his getting ready to go. Several other 3rd gen guys have successfully done a 46re swap that’s behind blower motors and they are holding up great. It just sucks that you are losing some gears, going back to the old 4 speeds. But as we all know, performance and reliability normally comes at a cost


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Oh we all know it too well. Haha. I wonder if there are any tranny places that can beef up my 2010 ram tranny like they can beef up the 8 speed? What is the tranny in my ram even called?

 

[chrisp2493]

Oh we all know it too well. Haha. I wonder if there are any tranny places that can beef up my 2010 ram tranny like they can beef up the 8 speed? What is the tranny in my ram even called?

I believe you should have the 65rfe. It’s basically the same as the 545rfe, just with one extra gear. It still has 2 overdrives which I really don’t get. It’s almost like 5 gear is a useless gear


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[2010 Infantry Vet]

I believe you should have the 65rfe. It’s basically the same as the 545rfe, just with one extra gear. It still has 2 overdrives which I really don’t get. It’s almost like 5 gear is a useless gear


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After a lot of research, It looks like I have the 545RFE. They make upgraded clutch plates for it, but the transmission tuning is what seems to be the problem/fix. Now i just need to figure out who does the tranny tuning.

 

[huntergreen]

Yes, you have the 545rfe.

 

[chrisp2493]

Yes, you have the 545rfe.

What year did the 6 speeds start? Or is based on trim level?


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[RLJ10X]

Why would transmission tuning be a problem? A Hemi Fever tune will tune your tranny also. Am I missing something?

Everybody thinks the 8 speed is the greatest invention since ****, but IMHO, the 545/4.10/HemiFever is a pretty damn good set-up, also. Ditch the MDS, while you're at it.

 

[huntergreen]

What year did the 6 speeds start? Or is based on trim level?


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2012. Identicle trans, just different programing.

 

[chrisp2493]

Why would transmission tuning be a problem? A Hemi Fever tune will tune your tranny also. Am I missing something?

Everybody thinks the 8 speed is the greatest invention since ****, but IMHO, the 545/4.10/HemiFever is a pretty damn good set-up, also. Ditch the MDS, while you're at it.

We are talking about it purely from a reliability behind big power, like bigger cams, boost, strokers, stuff like that. The 5 and 6 speeds have proven to a lot of people that they are simply not worth the price tag of getting them built, and even then they still don’t hold up well. I’m doing a complete build on a 46re, a 700hp capable built kit, performance billet valve body and a convertor for around $2500-$3000. You can’t touch that price with a built 545/645 or 4L80e. Those are running between 5-7 grand


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[crackerjack1957]

2012. Identicle trans, just different programing.

Clutch pack got to be different for another gear also.

Edit: I'm wrong...........lol

 

[chrisp2493]

Clutch pack got to be different for another gear also.

The gear is already there. The 5 speeds use it for a kickdown gear called 2nd prime. The 6 speed just programs the trans to use it on the upshift schedule


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[crackerjack1957]

The gear is already there. The 5 speeds use it for a kickdown gear called 2nd prime. The 6 speed just programs the trans to use it on the upshift schedule


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Thanks did not realize that......how's the 46re going