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While that sounds good in theory, my real world experience is similar to Tom B.

Soft springs = nose up = no steering.
Firmer springs = very little front rise = good steering ( not as good as using a WDH forcing the front back down) but much better than the nose up scenario.

The pivot point is negated to a degree because of the relationship of the front and rear to the pivot point. This same effect is seen on a seesaw that has the pivot point moved to one side - ie. one short side, one long side..
The laws of leverage take over at that point and for the short side to make the long side rise takes much more force vs. the amount of force that it takes for the long side to raise the short side. The skinny kid on the long side can lift the fat kid on the short side with ease.

The truck has that big heavy engine sitting on the long side and almost no weight behind the rear wheels.

The pivot point is always there with either spring setup.

It's not just a theory. There are many who have experienced towing with a squirrely/light front end. You should try it sometime, it really helps clean out your insides :)
 

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Oh I agree with that statement.
I was just saying that soft springs tend to give you nose high and a really light front end vs. heavier springs which don't seem to let the nose rise nearly as much or give as light front end steering feel - just comparing springs, not springs vs. WDH.

As far as the OP's trailer, I agree it is not an ideal weight distribution. That's a lot of weight on the front of the trailer.
5 lug wheels means those are 3000 lb axles, so he is at max weight for the trailer - maybe over, maybe under - being a steel trailer his actual carrying capacity is most likely under 5000 lbs. if not 4500 lb.
Might be all local towing though too, and usually lower speeds but that is just speculation.
 
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Oh I agree with that statement.
I was just saying that soft springs tend to give you nose high and a really light front end vs. heavier springs which don't seem to let the nose rise nearly as much or give as light front end steering feel - just comparing springs, not springs vs. WDH.

As far as the OP's trailer, I agree it is not an ideal weight distribution. That's a lot of weight on the front of the trailer.
5 lug wheels means those are 3000 lb axles, so he is at max weight for the trailer - maybe over, maybe under - being a steel trailer his actual carrying capacity is most likely under 5000 lbs. if not 4500 lb.
Might be all local towing though too, and usually lower speeds but that is just speculation.
Yes exactly, 3500 axles and local use only... I clean Chick Fil A's. I usually don't carry that much water. This is my back up vehicle, and the only truck I could afford without taking on a loan since the trans in my E250 is out. 1211 Springs should be in any day now. I'm also doing all new brakes and rotors. along with a radiator and new ac condenser fan. I still need to find a factory Brake Trailer controller. Thanks for everyone's comments I'm learning a lot and find this Ram to be easier to work on, and more enjoyable to drive than the fords
 

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for cheaper OEM parts try, it's where I got my oem brake controller. I don't know if you will need to have the PCM flashed to activate the oem brake controller though (not sure on a 2011), I had to on my 16. I used alphaobd and a MX+ to do it.

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I visit CFA's way too much lol. The Destin area is beautiful too.

I think you will like the 1211 springs
 
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for cheaper OEM parts try, it's where I got my oem brake controller. I don't know if you will need to have the PCM flashed to activate the oem brake controller though (not sure on a 2011), I had to on my 16. I used alphaobd and a MX+ to do it.

car-part.com

I visit CFA's way too much lol. The Destin area is beautiful too.

I think you will like the 1211 springs
The Springs should be here Tuesday or Wednesday, Destin is nice, Like everything great, it's getting crowded. I found and ordered a used OEM brake controller. Now I need to source a bezel. I can't post in the wanted forums yet, I guess I will have to wait. The trailer brakes will work with just adding the new controller. No need to flash. If you do flash, then the EVIC will display the trailer brake controller in the system. The controller will work without the flash. I'll look into those..

Basically, this is what I need to get the Trailer Brakes going. Just The trim bezel, funny thing is when you order the kit from Mopar it comes with two Bezels! depending on which dash color you have. so, I know there's a bunch of extra ones out there.
 

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its says 100 posts and 30 days to post up in the for sale wanted..
 
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less water this time 2011 5.7 3.92.. and My 2011 e250 4.6 with about the same amount.

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The truck will probably be close to level with the new springs.

Bezel might be in a wrecking yard near you or try ebay even.
 
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