Another Parasitic Battery Drain Issue, I Need Help!

[kamicrazy99]

Probably not the same issue, but on the 0.1% chance it is (could be the "interior mod?)...
Mine was the power seat; if I powered it all the way back (aka all the time), the motor would stick on. Only noticed it when I opened the door while it was completely silent one time and could hear it buzzing.

 

[Sherman Bird]

Probably not the same issue, but on the 0.1% chance it is (could be the "interior mod?)...
Mine was the power seat; if I powered it all the way back (aka all the time), the motor would stick on. Only noticed it when I opened the door while it was completely silent one time and could hear it buzzing.

That sounds like an engineering problem to me. Knowing the lack of dependability of Fiats years back, I must wonder about the Italian company taking over FCA. How much has engineering improved in terms of product reliability?

I'm not trying to imply anything, just looking at things pragmatically.

 

[BrokeRam]

I cannot add to what others have said but your knowledge of trying to find out the culprit is top notch and the way your relaying the info to these fellas is spot on...really sucks about your situation as i have a 2010 also so I pay attention to these problems...hope it gets sorted out.

thank you

 

[BrokeRam]

What does this statement refer to? Please explain this fuel pump relay fix and how it seems to be solving the problem.

TIPM and Fuel Relay bypass cables are a simple way to test or bypass faulty fuel pump relay problems on many 2004 and newer for Dodge/for Jeep/for Chrysler vehicles. If your vehicle acts like it's out of gas and/or your fuel pump continues pumping after turning the vehicle off (draining your battery), you likely have a faulty fuel pump relay. Please google dodge fuel pump relay bypass
for more info.
I figured out that I remove tha fuse M34 I have no more amp draw. I am using the power from the aux power fuse from the TIPM to power M34. So when the key is turned on power supplied from the aux power port to M34 to the streering controls work when I turn the care on.

Honestly, I do not believe that this a relay problem, but some sort of logic/module issue. I have read that the TIPM gets its identity/(or some sort of info) from the Cabin Control Node. My jumper has put a bandaid on the issue.

 

[BrokeRam]

Probably not the same issue, but on the 0.1% chance it is (could be the "interior mod?)...
Mine was the power seat; if I powered it all the way back (aka all the time), the motor would stick on. Only noticed it when I opened the door while it was completely silent one time and could hear it buzzing.

I don't think it a seat issue because it is a intermittent issue. If it was a light or seat motor the amp draw would be constant.

 

[RamDiver]

TIPM and Fuel Relay bypass cables are a simple way to test or bypass faulty fuel pump relay problems on many 2004 and newer for Dodge/for Jeep/for Chrysler vehicles. If your vehicle acts like it's out of gas and/or your fuel pump continues pumping after turning the vehicle off (draining your battery), you likely have a faulty fuel pump relay. Please google dodge fuel pump relay bypass
for more info.
I figured out that I remove tha fuse M34 I have no more amp draw. I am using the power from the aux power fuse from the TIPM to power M34. So when the key is turned on power supplied from the aux power port to M34 to the streering controls work when I turn the care on.

Honestly, I do not believe that this a relay problem, but some sort of logic/module issue. I have read that the TIPM gets its identity/(or some sort of info) from the Cabin Control Node. My jumper has put a bandaid on the issue.

Thanks, I researched and watched a couple of videos on the topic and understand the methodology. A great move by you.

What did you observe after installing the fuel relay bypass fix that suggests the fault is elsewhere?

And, has this band-aid cured the mystery current draw?

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[BrokeRam]

I see you found the Fuel Pump jumper solution before I responded. Keep in mind it should only be a temporary solution.

The way it looks, its going to be permanent. I don't believe this poses any safety issues like the fuel pump fix.

When I had the issue, I jumpered it for awhile until the basic $59 Relay Bypass (plug-in board with fuse slots) from Vertical Visions arrived. It's been working flawlessly for a couple of years now. Here's a Comprehensive thread that discusses the issue.

That mod plugs directly into the appropriate fuses of the fuel pump circuit. I would have to modify that board for my application.

The relay bypass was better than letting a mechanic splice into the TIPM wiring (to overcome/replace the bad relay) & way better than dropping upwards of $1000 to replace a board for a $5 relay. Also looks like they are doing repairs on the TIPM boards now too (if one can go without their truck for awhile).

They do not repair 2010 TIPMs. Looks like the 2010 TIPM was a one off.

 

[BrokeRam]

I'm not a lawyer but this doesn't sound legally legitimate. FCA has a legal contract to supply a warranty, not if it's convenient or easy to provide but because they took your money. This might be worth talking to a lawyer.

You are right but that will properly take more time than fixing the truck. I much rather deal with electrical gremlins than lawyers. At the current rate, the truck has been depreciating about 4 to 500 dollars a months since April. FCA has a way out if they want. It's the NADA value minus the deductible. They already spent that at the dealer or pretty close to it at the last visit.

 

[BrokeRam]

Thanks, I researched and watched a couple of videos on the topic and understand the methodology. A great move by you.

What did you observe after installing the fuel relay bypass fix that suggests the fault is elsewhere?

And, has this band-aid cured the mystery current draw?

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yes after about 20-30ish minutes the amp draw drops to .044 amps.

 

[BrokeRam]

No, I never had my TIPM out. I'd assume that the repair Vertical Visions does would be what your suggesting (I wouldn't hesitate to call as they are super helpful).

I stayed away from cutting/splicing in wires because splicing can let to further problems (if not done right & it's too important in this instance) but more so because if anything further happens to the board (other relays, etc) it'll mean a new board is required (and dealing with the splicing which would likely mean a new overpriced harness.

Other than price for new board, I looked at it as a "could happen again" -- especially since my neighbour has also had it happen... so the current solution had the best bang for the buck, allow for fuses and not affecting anything else.

Cheers

I think that Vertical Visions specializes in replacing relays on the TIPM. I think I have some issue with the logic on the board or another module in the truck. Doesn't matter anyway they don't repair 2010 TIPMs.

 

[BrokeRam]

So I hate never having closure on these types of threads. Ultimately I never correctly resolved the issue, but my band-aid did fix the issue. A friend came over today and made me an offer on the truck and I sold it as is. Yes, I disclosed everything. He was OK with how my fix resolved the problem.

Remember if you want to keep your factory radio put the jumper in the M38 fuse and M49 fuse. That way you can keep your old factory radio.

Just like the relief factor commercial. The truck is gone.

 

[RamDiver]

So I hate never having closure on these types of threads. Ultimately I never correctly resolved the issue, but my band-aid did fix the issue. A friend came over today and made me an offer on the truck and I sold it as is. Yes, I disclosed everything. He was OK with how my fix resolved the problem.

Remember if you want to keep your factory radio put the jumper in the M38 fuse and M49 fuse. That way you can keep your old factory radio.

Just like the relief factor commercial. The truck is gone.

Congratulations on your solution.

I was looking forward to exploring this project a bit further but if you're happy, that's more important.

I'll wait for another one to appear.

Thanks for not leaving everyone hanging in wonderment too. That happens far too often.

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