Can my 2016 ( 1500 5.7 Hemi ) 4x4 Extended cab Cary a 2200 lb Truck Camper

[Bill Cats]

Can my 2016 ( 1500 5.7 Hemi ) 4x4 Extended cab Cary a 2200 lb Truck Camper:

I was told YES by this guy that " selling " me one ,,
and I even ordered the bi rubber parts that go under the rear and help support truck camper in bed-

Im slated to pick up truck camper this coming weekend,,,,
I was talking to my son who informed me that it cant be done---? he is NOT very informed on many subjects , thats why im asking here..
Thanks

 

[392DevilDog]

Your payload is probably 1400 to 1500 lbs. That isn't even close to 2200lbs.

I would say NO. Even a 2500 with a diesel is only gonna have about 2200lb payload, obviously better suited, but truly that is 3500 territory.

But, I am not really a weight police type, but common sense tells me...no way would I put that on a 1500.

Just my thoughts.

Look on your driver's side door jamb. It will give you your payload. Please report back with that.

 

[AFMoulton]

Look at the sticker in the door jamb, it will tell you. But my guess is no. Even the 2500 Diesels are close to 2200.

I had to get a gas 2500 to get 3600lb payload.


2018 Ram 2500 6.4L 4x4
Amsoil SS 0W-40

 

[392DevilDog]

I had to get a gas 2500 to get 3600lb payload.

Just out of curiosity, I am guessing you have a regular cab?

My Tradesman that has no options other than protection group only has 2997.

So even my truck a 2015 Ram 2500 crew longbed would only have 797 pounds left over for passengers and gear.

Also, @Bill Cats do you have a crew or quad cab and which bed 5'7 or 6'4.

That is a lot for a 1500

 

[AFMoulton]

I have a 2018 Crew Cab Short bed 4x4 with the snow plow prep. Sticker on the door says 3690


2018 Ram 2500 6.4L 4x4
Amsoil SS 0W-40

 

[392DevilDog]

I have a 2018 Crew Cab Short bed 4x4 with the snow plow prep. Sticker on the door says 3690


2018 Ram 2500 6.4L 4x4
Amsoil SS 0W-40

Awesome

 

[392DevilDog]

Sorry to derail the thread, but I am stumped why you have such a high payload @AFMoulton .

Your shortbed should have 190 more than my max of 3140(silly a shortbed has more payload than a longbed, but they fixed that for 2019).

As stated, my very few options, which would be the larger chrome wheels/ tires and protection group(hell, mine doesn't even have the sharkfin) reduce mine to 2997.

So the max payload according to the chart is 3330 for a crew shortbed 6.4l Hemi 4x4.

The 4x2 in the crew short configuration has a max of 3610.

So, you have 80 more pounds than that...awesome.

I ask, because a member at 5th Gen Rams just won a suit for how terrible the RAM configurator was, but the issue was it always showed more payload than was actual.

Your saying you have 360 more than the listed max. Crazy, how they screw this up.

 

[Bill Cats]

I have a 2018 Crew Cab Short bed 4x4 with the snow plow prep. Sticker on the door says 3690


2018 Ram 2500 6.4L 4x4
Amsoil SS 0W-40

I have the extended cab 1500--- and it says 1402 lbs (

soooooo is that number BECAUSE of suspension limits ( because the toe weight is 8000 lbs,,
AND
IF it is because it is suspension - I did purchase the suspension " enhancement" and will be installing ( just because ) it was the ********* rubber bomb stops for rear so when the camper presses the bed down it will rest on the enhancements --
is that sufficient ---
OR am I ******* into a fan

 

[392DevilDog]

I would say this, the suspension enhancements are not going to increase your ability to brake or turn.

They will just mask the inability of the suspension to handle that load.

Is the 2200 the GVWR of the camper or the dry weight.

If it is the GVWR of it then you are possibly in a better place...but if that is the dry weight...well, then you are 800lbs over before you even put a coffee in the truck.

I wouldn't do it, but I am sure someone will be along to say ratings mean nothing. Going over some is fine for sure...

Get us the numbers on the camper, if they are dry or gross.

Good luck.

(Still saying not a chance in hell)

 

[bobeast]

no

 

[2003F350]

It sounds unsafe just on the surface of it. There are truck campers built for half-ton trucks, and they're a lot lighter than that.

 

[NewBlackDak]

Way too much for any 1500.

You can beef up the suspension, but you are adding weight when you do it. You can upgrade tires. Your semi-floating axle will not hold up to constant weight.


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[392DevilDog]

I have the extended cab 1500--- and it says 1402 lbs (

soooooo is that number BECAUSE of suspension limits ( because the toe weight is 8000 lbs,,
AND
IF it is because it is suspension - I did purchase the suspension " enhancement" and will be installing ( just because ) it was the ********* rubber bomb stops for rear so when the camper presses the bed down it will rest on the enhancements --
is that sufficient ---
OR am I ******* into a fan

Towing and hauling are 2 different things. A trailer over 3500lbs in most states has to have trailer brakes.

So that is why towing is more...the truck is only carrying the tongue weight and then has the extra brakes to slow it.

1402 for a 1500 is actually pretty good payload.

Yes it is the suspension that limits it.

No, the enhancements will not help, that is why there are 2500 and 3500 trucks.

I say you are ******* in a fan on high.

 

[Quyonmob]

That’s a lot of nope. My payload is huge due to the Pentastar (1630lbs iirc), and that camper is still miles over for a 1500.

 

[BWL]

It's remotely possible you'd be ok on axle weight because a good portion of the campers weight will be on the front axle, but I'd say probably not. Check your axle capacities and weigh the truck as is front and rear seperately and do the math. Perhaps some guys on here can tell you the average percentage of the campers weight that goes to the front axle. Would definitely be over payload, but as long as you're not over axle you should be able to license it to legally have it on there. If it does then get lt tires as they'll have better road manners with the extra weight.

 

[dhay13]

Can it do it? Probably. Will it be safe or legal? Definitely not legal and probably not very safe. With a 1500 and already being about 50% over payload will make evasive maneuvering very touchy. Like has been said, a 2500 diesel only has about 2200lbs of payload. My 2500 6.4 gasser has about 2800lbs of payload. You are either in the 2500 gasser territory or even a 3500 gas or diesel. And adding suspension enhancements will not change what that yellow sticker says. I'm not trying to be weight police either but think about the legalities if you are in an accident being 700lbs overweight and there is a serious injury. To me it isn't worth the risk. I had a 2013 1500 rated to tow 8600lbs and bought a new boat that is about 9000lbs with trailer, which is why I now have a 2500. My 1500 towed it perfectly fine but I have worked hard for what I have and don't want to risk losing so upgraded to where I was legal.

 

[392DevilDog]

We need a little more info. Crew or quad...big doors or little doors on back.

5'7 or 6'4 bed

What is the dry weight and gross weight of the camper.

Be back in a bit with some numbers.

 

[392DevilDog]

Ok there's the chart.

Front and rear axle is 3900 each.

Rear weight is 2218 (using crew 6'4 which is the only style I would attempt this)

So you have 1652 lbs max capacity.

Does that sink in?

No way that is safe, no way that is smart, and no way will anything compensate for it.

Still curious if 2200 lbs is dry or gross on the camper though

 

[392DevilDog]

Will give one more thought.

6900 is the GVWR of your truck.

You said 1402 lbs Payload.

Base weight is 5498.

2 axles at 3900 is a max rating of 7800 lbs.

5498 and 2200lb camper is a weight of 7698

So unless you weigh under 102 pounds...you can not do this.

Has nothing to do with weight police and nothing will change it. It is too much.

 

[AFMoulton]

Alright so I just checked again 3690. I did read somewhere, cannot remember where now, but the Snow Plow Prep trucks had a different spring rate to compensate for the added weight of plow equipment being on board all the time. I don’t have that, and with this truck being in San Antonio, they wanted it got. Win win for me. It helps to have all 3500 pets minus the suspension though!


2018 Ram 2500 6.4L 4x4
Amsoil SS 0W-40