I don't **** on the 6 speed,RLJ,i just pointed out to you how it won't match the 8 speed in torque multiplication.It's the fact that FCA figures they can get away with using Canada as their dumping ground for anything older and a bit out of date.I think the last year for the 6 speed in the States was 15 ,while FCA thinks of Canada as a garbage pit that they can get away with dumping anything into.That's more the point and the one you guys are missing.I don't make any points about bashing the 5/6 speeds,unless you guys bash the 8 speed.Using Matts built to the nuts truck as a reference isn't really revelant,lets use Kyles bolt-on truck instead which is more in line with what most guys will be running,and it went 11.98's with an 8 speed,there isn't a 5/6 speed bolt-on truck that'll come close to Kyles bolt-on truck with an 8 speed.It wasn't until recently the 8 speed trucks started getting serious with mods,and look at what Matt Brown ran with just a whipple bolted to his. Another reference is look at how fast the new 5.0 Fords are running with their 10 speeds,they aren't making any more power then the 5.7's but a stock 5.0 shortbox regular cab with a 10 speed,will kick a stock regular cab 8 speed hemi's ass all day long at the track,and why,because it's got 2 more gears in it,to utlilize the torque multiplication factor,and keep the engine in it's sweet spot