CAT scale question

[dhay13]

So what is the pricing? I know it's $12 and I think $2 for each additional within 24 hours? Do they all have to be at the same scales? Can I stop and get a weight at one then stop an hour later down the road to get another and only pay $2 for that one? Looked on their site and didn't see it

 

[regal81455]

To the 1st part of your question...

It's $12 for the initial weigh and NOW $2.50 for a re-weigh.

No idea if it can be used between multiple scales on the same day sorry.

 

[392DevilDog]

I do not know for sure. But each weigh station has slightly different prices sometimes.

I would assume the extra weighs are at the same scale.

But not 100%

 

[Fast69Mopar]

I do not know for sure. But each weigh station has slightly different prices sometimes.

I would assume the extra weighs are at the same scale.

But not 100%

I can confirm that each additional $2.50 reweigh has to be at the same scale location. If you pay tht $12.00 fee at one location and want to reweigh at a different location you will be required to pay the $12.00 fee again.

I have tried to reweigh at a different location too many times and I always have to pay the $12.00 fee.

 

[GTyankee]

I don't put my Ram on a Cat scale
I have used a scale at a Public Scale at Mayflower Movers, i waited on the street until a moving company van pulled out of the gate.
Then i spoke with the Scale Master about getting my Ram weighed. He said that as long as i did not need a Certified Weight Slip, i could just pull onto the scale & he wrote down the weight on a piece of blank paper, No charge for it

I have also gone to scales at a Material Soils Plant when i knew that they were not busy, i drove onto the scales & the weight readout is right behind the glass, there was no one in the Weigh Shack at the time

Look online or a telephone book for Public Scales, you may be surprised how little it cost, if you don't need a Certified Weight Slip

 

[dhay13]

I can get to a regular scale but it doesn't weigh all 3 axles, meaning I need to weigh several times in different configurations. Did that with my boat. CAT is much easier...lol

 

[tron67j]

A cheap way to get your truck-only weights is go to a refuse transfer station when you have some garbage. Load your truck with all that you would travel with plus your garbage. You weigh in and out so your out weight is the number you want.

 

[dhay13]

I know my trucks empty weight. It was 7240lbs with 1/2 tank of fuel and me in it. I have added a tonneau cover and tow mirrors since then but we will have 2 more people with me. Was gonna be 3 others but one isn't going now. So truck should be about 7900lbs with full fuel and us 3 in it and the WDH inserted. But I still want to get an actual weight of it tomorrow to be sure.

 

[dhay13]

Well truck weighed more than I thought...lol. TT towed great, truck was great, etc. 100 miles towing 9300lbs and barely knew it was there.

***Discrepancy here. Truck empty weight was with just me in it. Other weights had the other 2 in there so add 420lbs to the empty weight, putting the truck right at 8000lbs with the 3 of us in it.

Weighed the truck with full tank of gas, me in it, WDH in back of bed and a few tools in bed.


Weighed again with WDH bars disconnected. Truck weighs 9140lbs in this config so subtract the 8000lb 'tare' weight leaves 1140 tongue weight. My max axle weights are 6500lbs rear and 5500lbs front. GVWR is 10,000lbs. GCWR is somewhere around 23,000lbs


And with bars connected. Truck weight was 9100lbs so tongue weight was 1100lbs. Looks like 160lbs got transferred back to the TT axles with the bars connected. All front axle weight was restored almost perfectly with bars on.

 

[dhay13]

This is the same TT towed by 2020 Tundra. Don't have any other weights on it yet or if he even got them. Asked him what each axle limit is so don't have that info yet but looks very light in the front. Told him looks like bars need more tension

 

[392DevilDog]

This is the same TT towed by 2020 Tundra. Don't have any other weights on it yet or if he even got them. Asked him what each axle limit is so don't have that info yet but looks very light in the front. Told him looks like bars need more tension

Gross Axle Wt Rating - Front (lbs)3900
Gross Combined Wt Rating (lbs)16000
Gross Axle Wt Rating - Rear (lbs)4150
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating Cap (lbs)7000

So he is just a scosh over rear axle rating

If he can get that back to the front...would be good. But looks like no one is riding with him

 

[392DevilDog]

So he is 660lbs over gross. 110lbs over rear axle. Still has 200lbs til gross combined.

If he can get the front back to near 3400 and some to the trailer...he would be under capacities.

But I am guessing he is nowhere near loaded to camp.

And you said this is a once in the spring once in the winter short trip?...should be ok for that.

 

[GTyankee]

In some States, whatever is being towed can only weigh 9,999 pounds
Once you break that 10,000 pound mark, you need a Class B Drivers License.

If you are over 10,000 pounds, make sure that you are not swaying, changing lanes more than you need to, don't do anything to draw attention & you likely won't get caught.
All the States that i have been in, Travelers don't have to pull across the truck scales voluntarily.
I have seen State Police escorting vehicles to the Scales, most times the trailer was the Utility type

 

[dhay13]

Yeah. His uncle and daughter were in it with him when they weighed it. Uncle is 250lbs. His wife is 110lbs so they will save 140lbs with her in his place. I also told him to raise his WDH brackets up one hole to add tension to transfer some more weight to the front. Should also transfer a little from the rear axle to the TT axles too. You can see that with the WDH connected it transferred 160lbs to the TT. No idea how much moving the bracket up 1 hole will do but if it moves 50lbs to the TT and 100 to the front axle that should get him real close.

Yeah he typically tows it about 60 miles a year but he is taking it 2 hours away later this summer. That's why we didn't go straight to the campground tonight with my truck. He wanted a short test run and to get weights with his truck to get a baseline.

He said he is pretty sure he will look for a 2500 next spring. He is a detective and lives about 3 miles from his dept and has a take home car so only drives the truck about 5000 miles a year.

 

[dhay13]

In some States, whatever is being towed can only weigh 9,999 pounds
Once you break that 10,000 pound mark, you need a Class B Drivers License.

If you are over 10,000 pounds, make sure that you are not swaying, changing lanes more than you need to, don't do anything to draw attention & you likely won't get caught.
All the States that i have been in, Travelers don't have to pull across the truck scales voluntarily.
I have seen State Police escorting vehicles to the Scales, most times the trailer was the Utility type

PA is not one of those states. Not sure what the limits are but I know that 10,000 or even 15,000lb trailers do not require a different class license.

 

[GTyankee]

http://www.dot.state.pa.us/Public/DVSPubsForms/BDL/BDL Fact Sheets/FS-NCAB.pdf

Do I need a CDL to pull a trailer over 10000 lbs in PA?
If the GCWR is 26,001 pounds or more, and the vehicle being towed has a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more you will need a Class A driver's license. If the trailer's GVWR is 10,000 pounds or less the vehicle can be operated with a Class B driver's license.

I don't operate my business in Pennsylvania, if i did, then i would have to have $1,000,000 Commercial Auto Policy & $1,000,000 Commercial Liability Insurance

Only 3 or 4 States require me to have that amount of insurance
Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Utah & maybe some State in the southeast

That is required for me, just to drive my 2016 Ram 1500 through those States, if i raise my sign up, place 2 red flags & 2 Orange Rotating Lights.

If the sign is down, the flags are not being displayed & the rotating lights are turned off & covered or removed, i only have to have basic insurance

 

[392DevilDog]

http://www.dot.state.pa.us/Public/DVSPubsForms/BDL/BDL Fact Sheets/FS-NCAB.pdf

Do I need a CDL to pull a trailer over 10000 lbs in PA?
If the GCWR is 26,001 pounds or more, and the vehicle being towed has a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more you will need a Class A driver's license. If the trailer's GVWR is 10,000 pounds or less the vehicle can be operated with a Class B driver's license.

I don't operate my business in Pennsylvania, if i did, then i would have to have $1,000,000 Commercial Auto Policy & $1,000,000 Commercial Liability Insurance

Only 3 or 4 States require me to have that amount of insurance
Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Utah & maybe some State in the southeast

That is required for me, just to drive my 2016 Ram 1500 through those States, if i raise my sign up, place 2 red flags & 2 Orange Rotating Lights.

If the sign is down, the flags are not being displayed & the rotating lights are turned off & covered or removed, i only have to have basic insurance

This applies to you, but for a RV we are exempt in PA

 

[dhay13]

Well he just texted me saying the dealer left his 52 gallon gray tank full so he has about an extra 350lbs or so of 'wiggle room' with his truck

 

[dhay13]

This is the same TT towed by 2020 Tundra. Don't have any other weights on it yet or if he even got them. Asked him what each axle limit is so don't have that info yet but looks very light in the front. Told him looks like bars need more tension

So his fresh water tank was full (52 gallons) and the tank is in front of the axles so that should take some weight off his rear axle and maybe transfer a little to the front axle. He will probably still be a little over on the trucks payload (GVWR) but everything else should probably be within limits. Might be over by about 200lbs

 

[Gero]

That is a big trailer for a tundra but then again, I've seen so many tundras and other half tons pulling 5'ers. I'm sure a little over weight won't hurt but if you're well over then the liabilities are huge.

I still get amazed every time I think about how much wdh can improve things.