Thornback
Member
When you trade in a vehicle and buy a new vehicle you are going to have to 'pay the piper'. Salesmen can move numbers around and confuse you, but they have to make a profit. And you will have to dig deep into your bank account. It does pay to shop around and get at least 2 quotes and check KBB. I trade for a new F150 (I apologize for being a Ford guy) every 2 years, trading in my 2-year-old F150. Same salesman for 12 new trucks that he has ordered for me over the years. He gives me dealer's price plus $250. I confirm dealer's price with KBB. Then I look up my old truck on KBB and price it out -- but I use the price of a 3-year-old F150. I give the salesman the numbers, he agrees, and he orders my truck. No stress. Too much hassle to do a private party sale. You sell outright rather than trade then you pay more sales tax.