Does the 6.4 have lifter issues like the 5.7??

[Ribtipram]

I have had the pass side fixed under Warranty on mt 14 1500 they ended up screwing up the head and had to put a new one on. After warranty was up the driver side started. That is why i got rid of it i was scared to death the same thing would happen and id be in for a new head

 

[rammerrodder]

My 2016 with the 6.4 just started the ticking on the passenger side bank. Doesn't do it until it gets warmed up so I am assuming it is an exhaust manifold leak. Broken manifold studs seem to haunt the 5.7 & 6.4. If I had enough $$$ I would throw a set of long tubes in there with all new bolts. I am sure with parts & labor that would set me back about $2,500. Has anyone here repaired a broken stud on a 5.7 or 6.4? I imagine you just about have to pull the whole motor just to get to the damn things!? Then there is the whole drilling thing, easy out (which is usually not that easy) & then re-chase the threads. I am getting a headache just thinking about it!

i used to work at an exhaust shop. we would cut off or break the remaining bolts, weld nuts to them, heat up the nub of a bolt and nut and turn them out slowly. if you work at it enough they usually came. crappy thing is the new parts that replace them aren't any better than the parts that went bad. it's also not limited to ram. most manufactures have issues with the aluminum head/ cast iron manifold.

 

[Ribtipram]

Yea im not sure how ram screwed the head up. They were talking about worrying about a coolant leak. They were paying so i never looked into it any further. I agree with rammerrodder i bought another ram knowing what we all know now. They are great trucks.

 

[Ribtipram]

Only issue i have with this 6.4 is i cant get the **** eating grin off my face when i drive it.

 

[McBroom]

Only issue i have with this 6.4 is i cant get the **** eating grin off my face when i drive it.

Put a Pedal Commander on it and that grin will become permanent.


- The Blue Mule

 

[gofishn]

Hi rammerrodder,

We certainly understand why this would be concerning. If it would be of interest, we would be more than happy to provide you with an additional layer of assistance for your next dealer visit. This will allow us to ensure your concern is formally documented, as well as connect you with a Case Specialist who can work alongside your dealer to make sure all possible avenues of assistance are explored for your concern. Simply follow up with us via PM when you decide to move forward and we’ll gladly assist.

Mark
Ram Social Care Specialist

Hey, Ram Cares

How about getting some lifters shipped out and quite wasting everyone's time lip servicing our problems.
Might even want to talk FCA into allowing OEM Replacement Part Upgrades, from MDS to NON MDS, for those who are on these forums bad mouthing your damn product.

Heaven Forbid, even a 6.4 cam for a 5.7 failed one.

Please, do not bother replying.
Either get something done or go away.

Here is my truck:
My Truck is currently a Stew Hansen Dodge, Des Moines Iowa
My VIN is :
1C6RR7KT4ES291683



Truck has been in the shop, for over a week, but the dealership cannot seem to get the new cam and lifters they say they need to repair it.

Truck has MDS

I just want my truck back in service.


Tired of the parts are scheduled to arrive,
Oops they didn't arrive but should be here
Darn, wrong again. Let me see what parts manager says
Gosh, I thought they would show up today...


Again, do NOT bother replying.
I will know when my truck is fixed, soon enough, And I most assuredly PROMISE you , and FCA, the whole damn World will find out soon after. On various Ram Forums, which has given us all a Collective Voice strong enough that FCA decided to give you a Paid Position.

Save the Kind Platitudes.
Platitudes only help the easily swayed, which are Ford Owners, Not Ram Owners

 

[McBroom]

$467 for cam n lifter set non mds from Summit racing oem lift. Made by Melling.
I’d ask the dealership if they would put these in for you. Then I’d put in for a reimbursement forms through FCA.



The Blue Mule

 

[Ribtipram]

So gofishn what ever happened

 

[GsRAM]

Hey, Ram Cares

How about getting some lifters shipped out and quite wasting everyone's time lip servicing our problems.
Might even want to talk FCA into allowing OEM Replacement Part Upgrades, from MDS to NON MDS, for those who are on these forums bad mouthing your damn product.

Heaven Forbid, even a 6.4 cam for a 5.7 failed one.

Please, do not bother replying.
Either get something done or go away.

Here is my truck:
My Truck is currently a Stew Hansen Dodge, Des Moines Iowa
My VIN is :
1C6RR7KT4ES291683



Truck has been in the shop, for over a week, but the dealership cannot seem to get the new cam and lifters they say they need to repair it.

Truck has MDS

I just want my truck back in service.


Tired of the parts are scheduled to arrive,
Oops they didn't arrive but should be here
Darn, wrong again. Let me see what parts manager says
Gosh, I thought they would show up today...


Again, do NOT bother replying.
I will know when my truck is fixed, soon enough, And I most assuredly PROMISE you , and FCA, the whole damn World will find out soon after. On various Ram Forums, which has given us all a Collective Voice strong enough that FCA decided to give you a Paid Position.

Save the Kind Platitudes.
Platitudes only help the easily swayed, which are Ford Owners, Not Ram Owners

I couldn't agree more with this post. Ramcares is a joke. Notice how they have been nearly or almost completely silent in the drag link weld thread, that also is a major issue with tons of unhappy customers. If ram really did "care" they would release updated parts and address these issies properly.

They build a great truck but this mickey mouse, shade tree way of handling issues that arise is terrible in many ways and is not doing anything for their reputation.

 

[McBroom]

^^^this^^^
I completely agree with all of y’all.
I’ve got 20K on my 18 knock on wood I haven’t had any cam/lifter problems. But at 14K the mds modules went out. I’m glad I was/am under warranty. Those ******** are $400 each plus labor


The Blue Mule

 

[gofishn]

That's the problem with increased market share.
It;s not the fact that your company sells more product. it;s that more product means more of the Defects are going to be known , and discussed, by those who buy that product.
Failure to properly take of and satisfy your Customers means you will , most likely lose all that increased Market share abd could even end up out of business.

Go try an buy a Mitsubishi.

they had great market penetration, in the 1980's with their Chrysler tie in, and on their own, in the 1990's with pretty desirable, hot cars.
Man, they looked good. But, with issues. Issues so bad they had to offer up basically free cars,. No money down, no payments and no interest for 12 months.

When the only people who will buy your product are Midlife Crisis Sufferers, who want some sexy car or young ********* who can't buy anything, you ain't going to last.


Isuzu. Actually a pretty decent vehicle but under powered, underwhelming with fit and finish issues.

Any of this sound familiar?
Mechanically Issues, Fit and Finish Issues?
May as well rename it "Fiat'ed".
Like "Going Postal", everyone will know what you are talking about.

FCA has made gains but their flaws are becoming glaring and, let;s face it, even Dodge Fan boys (like Me) finally realize Dodge is Dead.
It;s gone, Kapoot.
Chrylser is nothing more than a Fiat.

as we are seeing with all the petty and major issues plaguing our Product.
Gop do some research on FIAT Branded models. See what pops up. it will be familiar.

I am trying to decide on the Wife's next vehicle, Been in Minivans for last 3 decades, near enough, and are not really considering a Chrysler product.
Nostalgia keeps me thinking about the Pacifica but have yet to drive one.
Only looked at it, last 3 times my truck was in the shop and have not even considered any other FCA vehicle, whatsoever.

This from a Die Hard Mopar fan for almost 45 years.
Right now, its; looking like Ford Excursion, Chevy Suburban/Tahoe or some other SUV type.
Got to do my research but those are the leaders.

If they can do this, to someone who will gladly make and HAS MADE, Excuses for their short comings. Vocally and Online, think about the poor Smuck who just bought his Hemi and is now facing all these issues. Think he will return for more?

 

[McBroom]

That's the problem with increased market share.
It;s not the fact that your company sells more product. it;s that more product means more of the Defects are going to be known , and discussed, by those who buy that product.
Failure to properly take of and satisfy your Customers means you will , most likely lose all that increased Market share abd could even end up out of business.

Go try an buy a Mitsubishi.

they had great market penetration, in the 1980's with their Chrysler tie in, and on their own, in the 1990's with pretty desirable, hot cars.
Man, they looked good. But, with issues. Issues so bad they had to offer up basically free cars,. No money down, no payments and no interest for 12 months.

When the only people who will buy your product are Midlife Crisis Sufferers, who want some sexy car or young ********* who can't buy anything, you ain't going to last.


Isuzu. Actually a pretty decent vehicle but under powered, underwhelming with fit and finish issues.

Any of this sound familiar?
Mechanically Issues, Fit and Finish Issues?
May as well rename it "Fiat'ed".
Like "Going Postal", everyone will know what you are talking about.

FCA has made gains but their flaws are becoming glaring and, let;s face it, even Dodge Fan boys (like Me) finally realize Dodge is Dead.
It;s gone, Kapoot.
Chrylser is nothing more than a Fiat.

as we are seeing with all the petty and major issues plaguing our Product.
Gop do some research on FIAT Branded models. See what pops up. it will be familiar.

I am trying to decide on the Wife's next vehicle, Been in Minivans for last 3 decades, near enough, and are not really considering a Chrysler product.
Nostalgia keeps me thinking about the Pacifica but have yet to drive one.
Only looked at it, last 3 times my truck was in the shop and have not even considered any other FCA vehicle, whatsoever.

This from a Die Hard Mopar fan for almost 45 years.
Right now, its; looking like Ford Excursion, Chevy Suburban/Tahoe or some other SUV type.
Got to do my research but those are the leaders.

If they can do this, to someone who will gladly make and HAS MADE, Excuses for their short comings. Vocally and Online, think about the poor Smuck who just bought his Hemi and is now facing all these issues. Think he will return for more?

Awesome thoughts and research!!!
I agree when is start having too damn many issues and tired of the problems. I’ll buy another Ford!
GM can blow me!!!!!


The Blue Mule

 

[gofishn]

Awesome thoughts and research!!!
I agree when is start having too damn many issues and tired of the problems. I’ll buy another Ford!
GM can blow me!!!!!


The Blue Mule

Thank you.
Honestly, was not so much Research, as Memories.

 

[GsRAM]

Awesome thoughts and research!!!
I agree when is start having too damn many issues and tired of the problems. I’ll buy another Ford!
GM can blow me!!!!!


The Blue Mule

Yes sir. I am a Ford man and have been for a long time. Dont care for gm as much but would still drive one before any *** vehicle.

When I bought my ram I liked the new 17 superduty... but not 10k more than my ram. I do really like my ram but it's very irritating and frustrating to deal with vs such as the drag link issue and FCAs handling of it....which I do not believe Ford and GM would have done. They would've replaced the defective part.

I hope to have my ram for many years yet but when the time comes I'll look hard at Ford again

 

[McBroom]

Yes sir. I am a Ford man and have been for a long time. Dont care for gm as much but would still drive one before any *** vehicle.

When I bought my ram I liked the new 17 superduty... but not 10k more than my ram. I do really like my ram but it's very irritating and frustrating to deal with vs such as the drag link issue and FCAs handling of it....which I do not believe Ford and GM would have done. They would've replaced the defective part.

I hope to have my ram for many years yet but when the time comes I'll look hard at Ford again

Speaking of Ford my uncle has a ford minivan I forget what they call it anyway it’s a 2004. In the rust belt they had a problem with the rear axle rusting through. Fords fix?? Weld a pipe in the axle. Now this axle is nothing more than a rolled piece of sheet metal so having a piece of pipe welded into a rusty spot to me is not an adequate repair.


The Blue Mule

 

[GsRAM]

Speaking of Ford my uncle has a ford minivan I forget what they call it anyway it’s a 2004. In the rust belt they had a problem with the rear axle rusting through. Fords fix?? Weld a pipe in the axle. Now this axle is nothing more than a rolled piece of sheet metal so having a piece of pipe welded into a rusty spot to me is not an adequate repair.


The Blue Mule

That would be the free star and fords last minivan produced to date. They were problematic in some ways
At least that fix did not alter the performance of the part as originally designed and actually made it stronger probably.....Unlike the drag link weld which removes the ability to correct the steer ahead adjustment that was present when I purchased this truck.

All oems have their issues, but this drag link weld takes the cake for me

 

[gofishn]

So gofishn what ever happened

Got the truck back, August 13th, after 2 weeks in the shop, mostly waiting on backordered parts. Everyone at Stew Hansen Dodge has been superb.

Tech comments state:

Tick noise can be heard from Valve train. Both Left and Right side. Sounds like loose Filters.

Upon Further inspection, once heads were removed, Found Loose liters.
Removed camshaft. Found Lobe damage. .
Replace Lifters and Camshaft and all related gaskets.
Changed Oil and filter. EVAC and re-charge A/C System.
Filled, then bled Coolant System. Verified Operation.
Engine noise now gone. Test Drove.



PARTS:

1 - 53022263-AF Camshaft $240

2 - 5038785-AD Tappet HY $140

2 - 5038786-AD Tappet HY $140

1 - 53021521-AD Gasket $13

1 - 68196239-AC Gasket Kit $271

2 - 53022142-AB Seal PCV $11

4 - 6036734-AA Screw $9

4 - 6036684-AA Nut $6

1 - 4892339-AB Filter

1 - 68258687-AA Oil

1 - 68163849-AB Anti-Freeze

Prices are from online site that had most of the parts. About $1200 worth of Parts, plus fluids.

Thank you, Ram Warranty!



Truck is insanely quiet now. Much quieter then when I bought it new.
Noticed when the truck sat for three days, had insane anmount of chatter, upon start up. never heard anything like that prior. quieted down once the oil got pumped up to top of heads.
kind of freaked me out.

discussed it here and consensus is switch over to redline 5W-30.
Which I am going to do, shortly. just been busy with work and only Grandchild's (Granddaughter) 1st birthday coming up this week.

really debating trading it in for a different make and model and just driving Wife;s minivan until it dies..
think this will be my last Chrysler product after 40 years of ownership.

My only comfort is they ain't really Chrysler's.
Chrysler went away hen Fiat bought them out, they are Fiats.
Just a Chrysler name plate on a FIAT designed and produced Vehicle.

Kinda like Minolta got bought out by Sony because Sony wanted in on the DSLR market.
Shot Minolta, for decades but made the switch to Canon, due to my Production fears, which have been realized.

Stayed with Chrysler, longer, because the Brand Loyalty was more deeply embedded.

That's what these Globalized Corporations DO.
Buy up known brands,with loyal client bases. then, sadly, usually run them into the ground, extracting every penny of profit to be made, before attempting to resell the brand to someone else.

Remember when Sergio was trying to find a Buyer, for Chrysler, just before he died?
For me, that was a serious Red Flag.


I like the truck. Love the power
like the body lines but these damn issues ....
no mater how beautiful, how much Lust, there is a reason she is Single