DRL On in daytime

[GTyankee]

There are vehicle owners that have had enough break downs of different kinds

That do NOT trust the Alternator with the Internal Voltage Regulator to keep the battery up to 80% plus

IF i had a 15 year old Chrysler product,
ie: with the Alternator that has the Internal Voltage Regulator

I would switch that regulator out to external Regulator, that i sort of understand,
( after checking the batteries age )

 

[04fxdwgi]

This whole DRL discussion sure went sideways fast. Would love to see some real statistics (not made up or guesses) on the pro / anti DRL opinion.

Kinda like Red (for example) Mopars have 4-5 times more accidents than Red GMs due to being unable to see a shiny red and chrome truck in the sunlight because of 2 small light strips in front are not lit. Or was it some idiot in oncoming traffic not paying attention?

I guess vehicles in the north that don't have DRL have to run headlights on during the day instead.

 

[DILLIGAF]

It's going to be your problem when they hit your truck.

 

[ramffml]

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Sounds like you know all about them, probably not your first time, eh?

 

[zrock]

We should remove all pre 1990 vehicles off the road immediately! Because " safety " GTFOH ! What's next, you will tell me I should of added ABS brakes, Seat belts , DRLs on my Rat Rod so you can feel safe.

If you to old and blind you cant see a full size lifted truck coming down the road, You're the problem not me.

Do not remember seeing anyone saying those veh should be taken off the road.. The discussion was about veh that came factory with it and that it hurts noting to leave them enabled... unless its you and its not cool

Years ago I was approached by a law enforcement agency that wanted to disable the DRL on one of their unmarked surveillance vehicles. At that time, I contacted the folks in Windsor for info and they had an absolute fit. They wanted all the vehicle info especially the VIN. I conveniently forgot to send the info. I told the police "how" to do it but I would touch it nor would I allow any of the techs to touch it.

Thats funny as all the police and cvse up here have that over ride switch. Seen a cvse the other day driving and still had the lights disables and with the slight fog cover and his white veh i did not see him until he was just about beside me.. They are not above the law so they should have to leave them enabled as well..

 

[photoguynorth]

What's next, you're going to tell me running smoked out lenses is a bad idea as well IDGAF buddy. I dont have them on my 1953 either.

You must be fun at parties

I for one always hire security at my parties. If you have DRLs on your car you will not be allowed in, under any circumstances!

 

[RamDiver]

Believe it or not, my full-sized blue-grey Tundra DC was apparently not that visible on the highways on a sunny afternoon, I have no idea how.

I do not know if this relates to science or psychology, but the full headlights made a huge difference on rural highways or crowded 401 travel.

I moved to a rural area in 2009 and quickly learned I needed to have full lighting on during sunny days otherwise, it seemed I wasn't being seen that well on the roads.

The low beams were modified to have DRLs on my 'built-in/for the US market' '07 Tundra.

The local Toyota dealer who imported it from the US or took it on a trade/whatever was legally required to add the DRLs feature for any vehicle built after Dec '89.

The Tundra had Sylvania incandescent POS lights, the high beams had much less effect than the low beams I have now. Thanks, Fahren.

With front signal lights as DRLs on my Warlock, they seem to get most driver's attention but whenever I take a extended daytime tour, I run full lighting other than the fog lights.

In today's world, it appears that paying attention to oncoming traffic has slipped on the priority list to below checking phone messages, playing with the stereo, or bird watching.

While I appreciate the attitude of, it's not my problem, I don't want the inconvenience of being run off the road or sideswiped by some no-mind A-hole.

I'd rather be seen sooner than later.

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[SitKneelBend]

This whole DRL discussion sure went sideways fast. Would love to see some real statistics (not made up or guesses) on the pro / anti DRL opinion.

Kinda like Red (for example) Mopars have 4-5 times more accidents than Red GMs due to being unable to see a shiny red and chrome truck in the sunlight because of 2 small light strips in front are not lit. Or was it some idiot in oncoming traffic not paying attention?

I guess vehicles in the north that don't have DRL have to run headlights on during the day instead.

I believe the push for DRLs came from the insurance industry by first providing a (small) discount for vehicles equipped with DRLs in the same way the insured could receive a discount for having an theft alarm.

 

[diymirage]

Believe it or not, my full-sized blue-grey Tundra DC was apparently not that visible on the highways on a sunny afternoon, I have no idea how.

I do not know if this relates to science or psychology, but the full headlights made a huge difference on rural highways or crowded 401 travel.

I moved to a rural area in 2009 and quickly learned I needed to have full lighting on during sunny days otherwise, it seemed I wasn't being seen that well on the roads.

The low beams were modified to have DRLs on my 'built-in/for the US market' '07 Tundra.

The local Toyota dealer who imported it from the US or took it on a trade/whatever was legally required to add the DRLs feature for any vehicle built after Dec '89.

The Tundra had Sylvania incandescent POS lights, the high beams had much less effect than the low beams I have now. Thanks, Fahren.

With front signal lights as DRLs on my Warlock, they seem to get most driver's attention but whenever I take a extended daytime tour, I run full lighting other than the fog lights.

In today's world, it appears that paying attention to oncoming traffic has slipped on the priority list to below checking phone messages, playing with the stereo, or bird watching.

While I appreciate the attitude of, it's not my problem, I don't want the inconvenience of being run off the road or sideswiped by some no-mind A-hole.

I'd rather be seen sooner than later.

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Blue Grey you say?
Anything like this ?



That right there is the waste water digester, and it is painted in whatever color the sky is most days of the year, so it is painted to NOT be seen

 

[Hagar1]

I live in Ontario Canada where DLR ( DayTime Running Lights ) IS THE LAW ! many vehicles came from factory with them using the front Marker (signal) lights and done some research and found that I can move mine from the low side of the high beam to the marker (signal) light and still be legal and seen ! so that is what I did ! I also run LED lights through the whole truck ! I do like to be seen ! just because it is a truck Don't mean that you will be seen coming down the road !

Just putting in my thoughts and 1/2 cents worth !

It is a FEDERAL Law. I like it because of the visibility.

 

[RamDiver]

I believe the push for DRLs came from the insurance industry by first providing a (small) discount for vehicles equipped with DRLs in the same way the insured could receive a discount for having an theft alarm.

There are endless articles, some are quite amusing. First, the facts as per wiki.

Daytime running lamp - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Canadastan rules now compete with Cali, effective September 2021.

Using your vehicle lights to see and be seen

About the new vehicle lighting standard for cars in 2021 and tips on how to use your lights safely now.

tc.canada.ca

This Ontario article is dated and I question the accuracy of some of the author's comments.

Is driving without daytime running lights legal in Ontario?

New vehicles must have daytime running lights, but not all provinces require drivers to use lighting during the day.

www.thestar.com

Don't let Ian see this report.

A Short History Of Daytime Running Lights - National Motorists Association

This article shows how a Greyhound Bus marketing campaign combined with a flawed study (later discredited) launched the concept of daytime running lights in America.

ww2.motorists.org

Or this one where the author devolves into a rant about knives.

Is driving without daytime running lights legal in Ontario?

New vehicles must have daytime running lights, but not all provinces require drivers to use lighting during the day.

www.thestar.com

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[Hagar1]

Obviously you do not care about other people's safety just how cool you think you look. What is it hurting to have DRL active is it hurting your truck somehow?

Some of what we see on these sights is just internet bravado. I have met quite a number of these people over the years, especially those that worked in steaierships and they are all good people.

 

[Wild one]

There are endless articles, some are quite amusing. First, the facts as per wiki.

Daytime running lamp - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Canadastan rules now compete with Cali, effective September 2021.

Using your vehicle lights to see and be seen

About the new vehicle lighting standard for cars in 2021 and tips on how to use your lights safely now.

tc.canada.ca

This Ontario article is dated and I question the accuracy of some of the author's comments.

Is driving without daytime running lights legal in Ontario?

New vehicles must have daytime running lights, but not all provinces require drivers to use lighting during the day.

www.thestar.com

Don't let Ian see this report.

A Short History Of Daytime Running Lights - National Motorists Association

This article shows how a Greyhound Bus marketing campaign combined with a flawed study (later discredited) launched the concept of daytime running lights in America.

ww2.motorists.org

Or this one where the author devolves into a rant about knives.

Is driving without daytime running lights legal in Ontario?

New vehicles must have daytime running lights, but not all provinces require drivers to use lighting during the day.

www.thestar.com

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Similiar to the law requiring a small triangle called a "slow moving sign" on the back of a tractor or combine.If you need a little triangle sign to see something that's 12+ ft tall by 12+ ft wide,should you actually be on the road driving

 

[RamDiver]

Similiar to the law requiring a small triangle called a "slow moving sign" on the back of a tractor or combine.If you need a little triangle sign to see something that's 12+ ft tall by 12+ ft wide,should you actually be on the road driving

That's just silly, like a stupid bell on my bicycle. You don't think hollering is faster and louder? Try me.

I have the feeling that DRLs and headlights 'always on' do make a large difference but, only on occasion.

I have the dashboard light sensor on my Warlock covered with tape, that makes the lights come on as soon as it starts to get dark.

My Tundra seemed to blend in, more often than not so, I just kept all the lights on when on the highway. That means always, where I live.

For entertainment during my commute time, I used to count how many cars only had their DRLs on at dusk versus how many had the sense to turn their lights on.

It's too dependent on weather or road conditions, amount of daylight, and the planet alignment.

So do we trust Tom, Di ck, and Harry to make the right call? No, we treat everyone like a complete idiot and make a ret arded law to protect us from everyone else.

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[Wild one]

For entertainment during my commute time, I used to count how many cars only had their DRLs on at dusk versus how many had the sense to turn their lights on.



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That is definitely an issue after dark or in low light conditions,see it all the time out here,no tail lights on ,cause they haven't been smart enough to turn the headlights on.
Sounds like they might start requiring vehicles to also have tail lights on ,that should cover alot of drivers who haven't figured out they don't have tail lights after dark

 

[Hagar1]

Similiar to the law requiring a small triangle called a "slow moving sign" on the back of a tractor or combine.If you need a little triangle sign to see something that's 12+ ft tall by 12+ ft wide,should you actually be on the road driving

Well, sometimes a 12 foot triangle isn't enough. Years ago when I had my Dodge Shadow turbo, I was driving down a highway one nice summer day when I took the ditch to avoid an accident. Fortunately, the ditch had a gentle slope so no damage to my car. But back to the story. A farmer was hauling a load of bales down the highway with his farm tractor, a young mother with two little kids was behind the load of hay. The transport driver that came up behind them hit that little Ford Escort so hard that it pushed the entire back of that car into the back seat. I helped with getting the kids out and one was seriously hurt, 2 broken legs among other things. I got the mother, the kids and a bystander to hold one child while I flew them to the hospital. Yes, that little Shadow would go! I cut almost an hour of the response time that would be required for an ambulance response. Fortunately, they all survived.
But, a huge load of hay with a triangle thingy on it plus a vehicle behind it wasn't enough for that truck driver to see.
Don't really know what the answer would be.............

 

[GTyankee]

I often think about being on highway, out in the desert, when the Temperature is 100°F.

The issue is, the ground is releasing heat waves, you can not see something the size of a Semi Truck that is coming in on a side road, at 90 degrees to you.

The Highway has the right of way & you better hope that the other Semi truck see the STOP Sign on his road.

He better know the road & he better have had a good nights sleep.

Driver Slowed Or Stopped Before Holtville Crash Killed 13 Migrants: NTSB Report

Testimony released Monday says the driver of an SUV packed with migrants stopped or slowed before getting slammed by a tractor-trailer in one of the deadliest border-related crashes

www.nbcsandiego.com

Lights & Size really don't matter in some cases

 

[Hagar1]

I often think about being on highway, out in the desert, when the Temperature is 100°F.

The issue is, the ground is releasing heat waves, you can not see something the size of a Semi Truck that is coming in on a side road, at 90 degrees to you.

The Highway has the right of way & you better hope that the other Semi truck see the STOP Sign on his road.

He better know the road & he better have had a good nights sleep.

Driver Slowed Or Stopped Before Holtville Crash Killed 13 Migrants: NTSB Report

Testimony released Monday says the driver of an SUV packed with migrants stopped or slowed before getting slammed by a tractor-trailer in one of the deadliest border-related crashes

www.nbcsandiego.com

Lights & Size really don't matter in some cases

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A few years ago, we had a large number of young hockey players killed out in Saskatchewan by a driver that didn't bother stopping for a stop sign. Just last month or so, there was a mother and child killed in Southern Manitoba by a trucker that once again didn't stop for the stop sign. There was no "mirage" or anything else just a certain demographic of driver. The driver in Manitoba's accident disappeared and nobody seems to know where he is. Probably headed back to India.

 

[Wild one]

A few years ago, we had a large number of young hockey players killed out in Saskatchewan by a driver that didn't bother stopping for a stop sign. Just last month or so, there was a mother and child killed in Southern Manitoba by a trucker that once again didn't stop for the stop sign. There was no "mirage" or anything else just a certain demographic of driver. The driver in Manitoba's accident disappeared and nobody seems to know where he is. Probably headed back to India.

One of the young hockey players involved in that fatal bus/semi crash lives here in the same town as i do,and i run into him every once in awhile in his wheel chair.

 

[DILLIGAF]

It is a FEDERAL Law.

Its now also the Law I have to turn in my rifles, with the new gun ban the libtards put in !

Let me guess since Its the law I should line up like a spinless coward sheep and hand them in ?

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."