Fuel Additives for 2020 Ram with Hemi V-8

[Dusty]

Catalytic performance,what's that. You're not parking in the right neighbourhoods if you still got them things in the exhaust

I can't believe you have that kind of issue in Canada!

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 118954 miles.

 

[Tulecreeper]

Seeking opinion:

I know a number of techs and a few of them are of the opinion the fuel system/injector cleaner additives can be detrimental to catalytic performance or life, especially if "over used."

Wonder how those in this thread feel about this and what evidence or experience is there to support their contention?

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 118933 miles.

I don't personally think any kind of fuel additive will do much of anything. If it did, then it would already be in the fuel we buy.

 

[Wild one]

I can't believe you have that kind of issue in Canada!

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 118954 miles.

O-ya we do,precious metals are still precious metals,and cat theft is as big an issue here as down south.

 

[18harvest]

Hemi is not a direct injection engine.so there shouldn't be a ton of carbin buildup on the valves.top tier gas can't hurt .I just ran 89 and didn't even pay too much attention on the top tier gas on my ram.if you have a direct injection engine even with a conventional injector to help with carbon buildup for sure use top tier.i would think they would be but are the hurricane engines direct injected?

 

[Dusty]

Hemi is not a direct injection engine.so there shouldn't be a ton of carbin buildup on the valves.top tier gas can't hurt .I just ran 89 and didn't even pay too much attention on the top tier gas on my ram.if you have a direct injection engine even with a conventional injector to help with carbon buildup for sure use top tier.i would think they would be but are the hurricane engines direct injected?

Yes, I believe the Hurricane is direct injection.

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 118954 miles.

 

[2013ramboy]

I dont believe in additives, especially oil additives. I believe the motor oil geek has explained how additives can conflict with oil additive packages in your chosen motor oil.
For me, penzoil ultra platinum 5w30 or mobil 1 ,
I can of seafoam in crank before oil change, seams to clean and allows for better oil drain..
I do put a full bottle of seafoam In gas tank then fill it with 89 octane fuel whenever I change my oil. So I use two bottles of seafoam on every oil change. I change oil every 3-4k miles.
I believe high quality full synthetic oils have all rhe additives our motors need. For me, changing oil frequently is the best way to keep our engines clean and protected.
I put 335k miles on my first hemi, and I believe if I had bought it with less miles on it, 85k in 2016, I could have gotten even more miles.

I am convinced the seafoam flush is beneficial, it might not have done much, but at least I believe it helps clean out motor and makes oil changes more complete. I drain oil for like 30 minutes before I fill motor.
I filter my used oil through a cheese clothe and don't find any chunks or particles.

Just switched to pup, so after 2nd oil change I am planning to.send out a oil sample.
Ypu can never get all old oil out so first change to new oil is mixed with a little old oil.
So I will change oil again In 3k miles and send sample oil out for analysis. Motor is new, put remanufactured hemi in this past June So i don't expect to find much wear metals, but who knows. Also I am a little disappointed with he shop that swapped my motor, cost.me.$9k, and they just cheesed off on some small things. Oil pan bolts where original and rusted, some not tight and one broken off in block.
Stripped two bolts on oil pan braket of cover on back side.
I need to check all the block ground points as I suspect they might have skipped some.
I am little annoyed that they did not even talk to me about pil pump.water pump etc. I would have liked to have new oil pump and water pump installed as well as a new oil pan, gadgets etc. Not sure what they replaced or.not..

 

[Zoe Saldana]

I dont believe in additives, especially oil additives. I believe the motor oil geek has explained how additives can conflict with oil additive packages in your chosen motor oil.
For me, penzoil ultra platinum 5w30 or mobil 1 ,
I can of seafoam in crank before oil change, seams to clean and allows for better oil drain..
I do put a full bottle of seafoam In gas tank then fill it with 89 octane fuel whenever I change my oil. So I use two bottles of seafoam on every oil change. I change oil every 3-4k miles.
I believe high quality full synthetic oils have all rhe additives our motors need. For me, changing oil frequently is the best way to keep our engines clean and protected.
I put 335k miles on my first hemi, and I believe if I had bought it with less miles on it, 85k in 2016, I could have gotten even more miles.

I am convinced the seafoam flush is beneficial, it might not have done much, but at least I believe it helps clean out motor and makes oil changes more complete. I drain oil for like 30 minutes before I fill motor.
I filter my used oil through a cheese clothe and don't find any chunks or particles.

Just switched to pup, so after 2nd oil change I am planning to.send out a oil sample.
Ypu can never get all old oil out so first change to new oil is mixed with a little old oil.
So I will change oil again In 3k miles and send sample oil out for analysis. Motor is new, put remanufactured hemi in this past June So i don't expect to find much wear metals, but who knows. Also I am a little disappointed with he shop that swapped my motor, cost.me.$9k, and they just cheesed off on some small things. Oil pan bolts where original and rusted, some not tight and one broken off in block.
Stripped two bolts on oil pan braket of cover on back side.
I need to check all the block ground points as I suspect they might have skipped some.
I am little annoyed that they did not even talk to me about pil pump.water pump etc. I would have liked to have new oil pump and water pump installed as well as a new oil pan, gadgets etc. Not sure what they replaced or.not..

You don't believe in additives BUT you use additives.

 

[Dusty]

I dont believe in additives, especially oil additives. I believe the motor oil geek has explained how additives can conflict with oil additive packages in your chosen motor oil.
For me, penzoil ultra platinum 5w30 or mobil 1 ,
I can of seafoam in crank before oil change, seams to clean and allows for better oil drain..
I do put a full bottle of seafoam In gas tank then fill it with 89 octane fuel whenever I change my oil. So I use two bottles of seafoam on every oil change. I change oil every 3-4k miles.
I believe high quality full synthetic oils have all rhe additives our motors need. For me, changing oil frequently is the best way to keep our engines clean and protected.
I put 335k miles on my first hemi, and I believe if I had bought it with less miles on it, 85k in 2016, I could have gotten even more miles.

I am convinced the seafoam flush is beneficial, it might not have done much, but at least I believe it helps clean out motor and makes oil changes more complete. I drain oil for like 30 minutes before I fill motor.
I filter my used oil through a cheese clothe and don't find any chunks or particles.

Just switched to pup, so after 2nd oil change I am planning to.send out a oil sample.
Ypu can never get all old oil out so first change to new oil is mixed with a little old oil.
So I will change oil again In 3k miles and send sample oil out for analysis. Motor is new, put remanufactured hemi in this past June So i don't expect to find much wear metals, but who knows. Also I am a little disappointed with he shop that swapped my motor, cost.me.$9k, and they just cheesed off on some small things. Oil pan bolts where original and rusted, some not tight and one broken off in block.
Stripped two bolts on oil pan braket of cover on back side.
I need to check all the block ground points as I suspect they might have skipped some.
I am little annoyed that they did not even talk to me about pil pump.water pump etc. I would have liked to have new oil pump and water pump installed as well as a new oil pan, gadgets etc. Not sure what they replaced or.not..

Like you I don't believe in oil additives. Unless you're in complete understanding of the the oil chemistry that being used, any random additive could destabilize the effects of the additive package.

But my question was directed at fuel additives specifically. Apparently some techs. believe fuel additives will arm catalytic converters, yet better grades of pump gas contain fuel additives to keep fuel injectors and combustion chamber clean. Trying to understand the science behind this claim.

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 118989 miles.

 

[Dusty]

Found this, but not very detailed:

Using fuel additives can sometimes reduce the effectiveness of a catalytic converter. Certain types of fuel additives can coat the catalyst material and prevent it from working properly. In addition, some fuel additives can also clog the honeycomb structure inside the converter and cause damage.

Do fuel additives cause catalytic converter failures? - Search (bing.com)

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 118989 miles.

 

[Wild one]

Found this, but not very detailed:

Using fuel additives can sometimes reduce the effectiveness of a catalytic converter. Certain types of fuel additives can coat the catalyst material and prevent it from working properly. In addition, some fuel additives can also clog the honeycomb structure inside the converter and cause damage.

Do fuel additives cause catalytic converter failures? - Search (bing.com)

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 118989 miles.

Can't say as i've ever heard of the author,looks like he's just a mechanic,so how much stake you put in his comments or opinions is up to you. Not saying he's wrong,but i'm taking his comments with a grain of salt,as he doesn't have much in the way of actual facts to back up his statements

 

[Zoe Saldana]

Found this, but not very detailed:

Using fuel additives can sometimes reduce the effectiveness of a catalytic converter. Certain types of fuel additives can coat the catalyst material and prevent it from working properly. In addition, some fuel additives can also clog the honeycomb structure inside the converter and cause damage.

Do fuel additives cause catalytic converter failures? - Search (bing.com)

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 118989 miles.

TLDR: Using your automobile can cause a catalytic converter to fail.


We did some research and asked automotive professionals to find out 14 of the most common reasons why a catalytic converter may fail. These include:

1. Poor engine maintenance
2. Age and mileage
3. Overheating
4. Faulty oxygen sensor
5. Unburned fuel in the exhaust system
6. Oil or antifreeze entering the exhaust system
7. Low coolant level
8. Bad spark plugs or spark plug wires
9. Damage to the honeycomb structure
10. Short trips
11. Road or structural damage
12. Fuel additives
13. Exhaust leaks
14. Faulty valve seals

 

[Burla]

Can't say as i've ever heard of the author,looks like he's just a mechanic,so how much stake you put in his comments or opinions is up to you. Not saying he's wrong,but i'm taking his comments with a grain of salt,as he doesn't have much in the way of actual facts to back up his statements

People don't often realize there are ways to clean catalytic converters, number one a long trip-get it hot, number two pull sensor carpet soap and water. Plus that doesn't even mention of the many fuel products you put in gas to clean it as well. Many ways to deal with this no matter if you use additives or not, not that I agree or disagree that additives create issue, I will say it is at least possible. But no doubt they also clean combustion chamber of you pick the right one and right concentration.

 

[Burla]

Just for fun purposes, hehe.

Fix your Catalytic Converter for $10?

Mike goes over the pros and cons of different catalytic converter fixes for a 2007 Lexus is250... but this applies to any modern car.Joe the Cheapskate: http...

youtu.be

 

[Wild one]

Just for fun purposes, hehe.

Fix your Catalytic Converter for $10?

Mike goes over the pros and cons of different catalytic converter fixes for a 2007 Lexus is250... but this applies to any modern car.Joe the Cheapskate: http...

youtu.be

We can still get these north of the border,i don't think you guys down south can though.I've used these in everything i've removed the cats on,and have yet to have them turn on a check engine light.

Amazon.ca

 

[2013ramboy]

I don't believe in oil additives.
I do however believe that fuel additives can help clean injectors and are generally helpful. Especially considering the variable quality of gas today.
I only use the seafoam directly before an oil change, I do not use it to boost or help my oil. I use it to clean out old oil prior to oil change.
Say what you want, I got 335k miles on my 2013 hemi before I replaced motor. I suspect my motor lasted longer then most..

 

[leftchevybehind]

I have a '23 1500 5.7 with about 7200 miles. I only run 93+. I put some Octane Booster in there for no apparent reason, drove around for a bit. Then at able a half a tank left, I put some Lucas Fuel System Cleaner in there. I drove around for a bit then filled it back up with 93.

All-in-all, I wasted $130 today.

 

[Wild one]

I have a '23 1500 5.7 with about 7200 miles. I only run 93+. I put some Octane Booster in there for no apparent reason, drove around for a bit. Then at able a half a tank left, I put some Lucas Fuel System Cleaner in there. I drove around for a bit then filled it back up with 93.

All-in-all, I wasted $130 today.

If you like octane booster,keep an eye on your plugs,as they kill plugs pretty fast. 93 is a bit overkill on a stock 5.7 that calls for 89,especially if you're adding octane booster to it,91 i could see,but 93 is just blowing money out the tailpipe.

 

[Zoe Saldana]

Nice to have $ to burn!