Gun Mounts

[CincyCuda68]

No gun? No Protection? Must be from Canada where your defenseless against criminals because the Police will be right there to help when you need them!

And if the **** hits the fan they have the USA to protect them.

 

[Scottly]

That sucks, here in Ohio we can have it in the open in the vehicle.

The problem lies int he fact that the carry law as it relates to motor vehicles was written PRIOR to the concealed carry permit laws, and the State legislature never changed the law. So, a concealed permit holder gets in the car, pulls the gun out of their holster and stuffs it down between the seats....still concealed but not securely encased....and he goes to jail for it. Plenty of records of arrests for that. It's BS and the law needs to be changed.

 

[corneileous]

That sucks, here in Ohio we can have it in the open in the vehicle.

Well, the OP can too, he has a carry permit to do so, he just doesn’t want to because his wife doesn’t have a carry permit.


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[Sandbox]

Well, the OP can too, he has a carry permit to do so, he just doesn’t want to because his wife doesn’t have a carry permit.


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OP, have your wife get a carry permit. Doesn't mean she has to carry but, it would cover you. My wife has hers and I bought her a pistol that she has yet to carry. But, she does know how to use it and if we're ever in a situation where she is in the car with a weapon (rarely happens), she is covered.

 

[corneileous]

OP, have your wife get a carry permit. Doesn't mean she has to carry but, it would cover you. My wife has hers and I bought her a pistol that she has yet to carry. But, she does know how to use it and if we're ever in a situation where she is in the car with a weapon (rarely happens), she is covered.

That’s kinda what I suggested a long time ago because having a gun mount inside the console or in the glove box is kind of silly to me. Which, I know, I said a while back that my Beretta pretty much stays in its carry holster in the center console unless I’m on a long trip but that’s mostly because I don’t want to leave the gun out in the open tempting someone to bust a window and steal it.

But then again as I write this post tho, I wonder how hard it would be to bolt an easy-access hard shell holster to a location under the front seat?.....[emoji848]

Then it would always be in the same spot, easy access ready to go, and to boot out of sight and out of mind.....

I have a handmade kydex holster that a buddy made for me that I don’t use. That’d probably be perfect for that as long as I had enough clearance. I’ll have to look into that. Might even wind up with a barely used console-holster for a large frame semi-auto for sale if this works...[emoji846]


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[ReefRaider]

In Florida, inside a vehicle, the weapon has to be "securely encased" and not in plain sight. Securely encased is defined as a zipper case, some type of closable container, or a holster with a retaining strap.

If you have a concealed permit, you can conceal on your person....But even with a permit, you have to follow the "securely encased" rule when concealing in your car, and it cannot be in plain sight.

I got to know where exactly did you get this idea from that your permit is some how over ridden by the law pertaining to people with out one , once you step foot inside your vehicle??

In Florida, inside a vehicle, the weapon has to be "securely encased" and not in plain sight. Securely encased is defined as a zipper case, some type of closable container, or a holster with a retaining strap.

If you have a concealed permit, you can conceal on your person....But even with a permit, you have to follow the "securely encased" rule when concealing in your car, and it cannot be in plain sight.

Did you stay at a Holiday inn Express last night ??

My FL. CWP allows me to carry on or about my person in the state of FL. There is no exception made for being in a car. That I have ever seen or heard of in the 15 years of having a permit in this state. Although if it's on the seat next to you , under a dirty t shirt and your not alone in the vehicle, that could be a problem for your passenger.

Having said that. I still prefer to keep mine on my person at just about all times. Main reason being,,
that's how I trained to use it .

 

[BriBout]

Here is how I have mine set up for my Walther PPQ .40cal.... I got a custom holster made with a RAM mount attachment, then bought the rest of the RAM mounts and attached to my seat bolt.

 

[Ramit355]

I have a Fla permit and Ohio permit and the wife does too. We carry in the car console at all times. No matter which one of us is driving both have a permit. In Fla. since we are not a resident to Fla. we must have an Ohio permit where our residence is with the gun law for carrying in a car or person remaining the same.Ohio allows open carry as well but as soon as you set foot in a motor vehicle that all changes if you do not have a conceal carry permit. Ohio does not allow weapons concealed on person or in vehicles with out a permit. Stupid as that law is. Darnest thing is that is current the best we have knowledge of right now and we must read the laws every 90 days it seems where they change so much any more.If one has to carry a weapon in a locked state while in a vehicle you would be better off to carry rocks!

 

[ReefRaider]

I have a Fla permit and Ohio permit and the wife does too. We carry in the car console at all times. No matter which one of us is driving both have a permit. In Fla. since we are not a resident to Fla. we must have an Ohio permit where our residence is with the gun law for carrying in a car or person remaining the same.Ohio allows open carry as well but as soon as you set foot in a motor vehicle that all changes if you do not have a conceal carry permit. Ohio does not allow weapons concealed on person or in vehicles with out a permit. Stupid as that law is. Darnest thing is that is current the best we have knowledge of right now and we must read the laws every 90 days it seems where they change so much any more.If one has to carry a weapon in a locked state while in a vehicle you would be better off to carry rocks!

Never mind . I think Im still not reading that right.
Sorry

 

[RodeoRam]

BriBout,

I like that setup. I've been looking for a better way instead of wedging my kydex holster between the driver and center cushions, and not having the center console, I don't like the idea of drilling into the dash plastic and having the pistol pointing at my lower legs.

I can't tell from your picture of the individual pieces, but is that the 9mm angled base? I guess it'd have to be since the bolt head is recessed into the seat's floor mount that a straight base wouldn't work on.

 

[Scottly]

My FL. CWP allows me to carry on or about my person in the state of FL. There is no exception made for being in a car. .

Your concealed carry permit allows you to carry concealed. Open carry is not allowed. if your weapon is not concealed on your person, then as you stated, it must be concealed "about your person". If the gun is in your car...and is NOT securely encased....You can be charged under Florida law. Don't believe me...........go ask a good defense lawyer.

 

[ReefRaider]

Your concealed carry permit allows you to carry concealed. Open carry is not allowed. if your weapon is not concealed on your person, then as you stated, it must be concealed "about your person". If the gun is in your car...and is NOT securely encased....You can be charged under Florida law. Don't believe me...........go ask a good defense lawyer.

You can lead a ***** to culture, but you cant make them think.

Go here and tell them they are wrong.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometow...Carry-Resident-or-non-resident-FAQ/10-301146/

I'll be there and have posted this ???

 

[WilliamS]

Here is how I have mine set up for my Walther PPQ .40cal.... I got a custom holster made with a RAM mount attachment, then bought the rest of the RAM mounts and attached to my seat bolt.
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Make a second one, mail to me! Thats pretty slick.

Technically in Florida it has to be enclosed. Legally a ziplock bag is an enclosure! I dont have mine enclosed, been pulled over once for being stupid and let the LEO take a look, he didnt care in the least. What does help me is 2 layers of limo tint, the bad guys cant see in period. Thats what the enclosure is to prevent, a break in to take weapons.

now my class ak47 SBR, I cant leave that thing anywhere!

 

[corneileous]

Your concealed carry permit allows you to carry concealed. Open carry is not allowed. if your weapon is not concealed on your person, then as you stated, it must be concealed "about your person". If the gun is in your car...and is NOT securely encased....You can be charged under Florida law. Don't believe me...........go ask a good defense lawyer.

You can lead a ***** to culture, but you cant make them think.

Go here and tell them they are wrong.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometow...Carry-Resident-or-non-resident-FAQ/10-301146/

Sure looks to me like regardless of whether or not you have a permission slip to carry in Florida that you can’t have a loaded pistol in plain sight in your vehicle. Which is stupid but then again if Florida doesn’t allow open carry at all, even on your person, it would actually make sense why they wouldn’t allow open carry in your vehicle.

But since the OP lives in South Carolina and is a CCW holder, he CAN legally carry his pistol out in the open, and wouldn’t even have to worry about it when his wife drove or was in the truck if she had her permit too.


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[Scottly]

You can lead a ***** to culture, but you cant make them think.

Go here and tell them they are wrong.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometow...Carry-Resident-or-non-resident-FAQ/10-301146/

Yea, that's it....I'll get my legal advice from an internet forum. No, thanks.

 

[ReefRaider]

Your concealed carry permit allows you to carry concealed. Open carry is not allowed. if your weapon is not concealed on your person, then as you stated, it must be concealed "about your person". If the gun is in your car...and is NOT securely encased....You can be charged under Florida law. Don't believe me...........go ask a good defense lawyer.

Since this really doesn't belong here . It's now there.

 

[ReefRaider]

Yea, that's it....I'll get my legal advice from an internet forum. No, thanks.

Actually it was you that was giving the advise.

I'm just telling you that your wrong. There are in fact lawyers and LEO there . Your right though what do they know that you don't.

 

[ReefRaider]

Sure looks to me like regardless of whether or not you have a permission slip to carry in Florida that you can’t have a loaded pistol in plain sight in your vehicle. Which is stupid but then again if Florida doesn’t allow open carry at all, even on your person, it would actually make sense why they wouldn’t allow open carry in your vehicle.

But since the OP lives in South Carolina and is a CCW holder, he CAN legally carry his pistol out in the open, and wouldn’t even have to worry about it when his wife drove or was in the truck if she had her permit too.


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It was about it being securely encased. It still having to be still concealed is not in debate .

 

[Dinky]

Does not matter where you get your info. Someone will always interpret it differently. With a CHL it is white and black laws with a **** ton of gray in the middle. It will change state to state city to city. Its best to read your local laws pick local cops brains a little. make your own best judgment on the situation if you talk to your local PD you will understand what they will tolerate and let go.

 

[CincyCuda68]

Does not matter where you get your info. Someone will always interpret it differently. With a CHL it is white and black laws with a **** ton of gray in the middle. It will change state to state city to city. Its best to read your local laws pick local cops brains a little. make your own best judgment on the situation if you talk to your local PD you will understand what they will tolerate and let go.

The true fun comes when you do a multi state trip and trying to figure out the nuances and laws of each state you will be traveling through. I live in Ohio and we reciprocate with most states for the chl but you still have to find out all these little details.