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[corneileous]

It was about it being securely encased. It still having to be still concealed is not in debate .

I guess I missed what this debate was truly about, and it’s validity in the first place since the OP doesn’t even live in Florida.


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[Dinky]

The true fun comes when you do a multi state trip and trying to figure out the nuances and laws of each state you will be traveling through. I live in Ohio and we reciprocate with most states for the chl but you still have to find out all these little details.

For sure it's always a headache. I live in oregon and no other states recognizes oregons CHL so to go into Washington or Idaho. You need to get Utah and Arizona just to go outside of Oregon. Like I said you gotta just read all the laws and make the best judgment yourself since it's your ass on the line not the internet.

 

[ReefRaider]

What strikes me as odd is as I go though this thread. I haven't seen any rifles. Most everyone I know here has a rifle as a truck gun.

I'll be right back. : )

 

[ReefRaider]

Yep thats a suppressed registered short barreled rifle and its perfectly legal right where it's at. Although I do keep that cover on it and place it under the seat. Gray man and all that.

 

[Dinky]

Yep thats a suppressed registered short barreled rifle and its perfectly legal right where it's at. Although I do keep that cover on it and place it under the seat. Gray man and all that.

I was always raise never to show the world what you have in the closet its non of their business.

 

[ReefRaider]

I guess I missed what this debate was truly about, and it’s validity in the first place since the OP doesn’t even live in Florida.


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Yea I just have a thing about misinformation when it comes to guns.

 

[ReefRaider]

I was always raise never to show the world what you have in the closet its non of their business.

Isn't that kind of the point to this thread. Well you cant say I'm paranoid.

 

[Jrod]

Serpa works perfect for me!! Four wood screws to hold it in place. Start the holes, break the screws in half, install, and forget about it!

The reason I like this configuration most is because nobody can reach for it without grabbing my attention, the gun locks in the holster till you release it with your trigger finger reducing the possibility of anyone else pulling it out, also reduces the possibility of popping out during a fender bender, and you can still pop the hood latch!

 

[corneileous]

Yea I just have a thing about misinformation when it comes to guns.

Well, I do too because not knowing the laws can’t get your ass into quite the ringer if you don’t know and have to find out the hard way but where in any Florida lawbook does it actually state that as long as you’re the only one in the vehicle- or as long as there is no one else in the car eith you who doesn’t have a permit, that you can carry concealed on your person, in your vehicle? I looked at quite a few places that talk about Florida gun laws, and I couldn’t find one single place that says otherwise about a resident with a permission slip can carry in their car differently from anyone else who doesn’t have a permit. I think that’s what Scotly was trying to say was that permit or not, a loaded pistol in a vehicle in Florida has to be treated like no one in the car has a permit.


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[ReefRaider]

Well, I do too because not knowing the laws can’t get your ass into quite the ringer if you don’t know and have to find out the hard way but where in any Florida lawbook does it actually state that as long as you’re the only one in the vehicle- or as long as there is no one else in the car eith you who doesn’t have a permit, that you can carry concealed on your person, in your vehicle? I looked at quite a few places that talk about Florida gun laws, and I couldn’t find one single place that says otherwise about a resident with a permission slip can carry in their car differently from anyone else who doesn’t have a permit. I think that’s what Scotly was trying to say was that permit or not, a loaded pistol in a vehicle in Florida has to be treated like no one in the car has a permit.


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That's not really the point. If you have a person with you that doesn't have a permit.
They could be arrested for having access to a concealed weapon since the weapon is not on your person. Will it stand up in court,, depends on a lot of things some of which we have no control over. At the end of the day , if your in that situation means you've more than likely done something else wrong to be in direct contact with Law Enforcement. The law for people that don't have a valid permit in FL and for those that do is purity clear. Like any law theres going to be gray areas. Thus case law comes to play. You need to read the pertinent Statute's. You can follow that link I posted. The Statute numbers are quoted and listed there. Like thus site that one is a well of information.

 

[ReefRaider]

I'll try this again. Florida law is very clear about where one is not to carry and inside of a vehicle is not one of them Also what can be carried. If it's not listed then you cant carry it, simple. How you carry it seems more open . If I want to put a Glock 17 in my pocket that's good to go. There is no requirement to have a retention type holster or any holster for that matter. Like wise it is clear about how someone without a permit can have a gun in their car. Both are covered by their perspective Statutes.

Theres lots of things that can be beat in court. That doesn't mean your not taking a ride for it.
Better to be prudent than busted.

 

[Jrod]

For sure it's always a headache. I live in oregon and no other states recognizes oregons CHL so to go into Washington or Idaho. You need to get Utah and Arizona just to go outside of Oregon. Like I said you gotta just read all the laws and make the best judgment yourself since it's your ass on the line not the internet.

Sigh, that sucks! I live in VA and we have reciprocity in almost every state except the ********* Northeast, West Coast, MN, and IL. They really need to continue pushing national reciprocity. This state by state nonsense gets good people thrown in jail.. Example: An Army soldier was reassigned from TX to NY. He was traveling on government orders. He got a flat tire in DC. A cop pulled over to help him out and saw a gun case in his trunk. In the ********* District of Washington you get a mandatory felony year for each weapon and each round found in your possession. No questions, no exceptions, the judge sends you straight to jail. The guy managed to get out with the help of JAG officers, but he will carry the felony charge for the rest of his life. He will never be allowed to vote, own another weapon, and will have negative impacts on any potential security clearances, therefore limiting his military career..

https://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

 

[Ramit355]

For Fla. Residents with a permit and with out for a vehicle.

WHERE CAN I KEEP MY GUN IN MY CAR?
This is a question commonly asked, but rarely able to be answered. You may keep, with or without a license, a firearm in your "private conveyance", otherwise known as a vehicle. Fl. Stat. s. 790.251(5) states "it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use." The important, and most often misunderstood, parts of this provision are the phrases "securely encased" and "not readily accessible". "Securely encased" means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; orin a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access. Fl. Stat. 790.001(17) (emphasis added). An important note in the list underlined previously is that whatever you keep your gun in it must be closed but not necessarily locked. Now, there is the second option of storing your gun in your vehicle where it is not "readily accessible for immediate use". "readily accessible for immediate use" is when "a firearm or other weapon is carried on the person or within such close proximity and in such a manner that it can be retrieved and used as easily and quickly as if carried on the person." Fl. Stat. 790.001(16). Keep in mind, this statute does not require you to carry your firearm securely encased and not readily accessible for immediate use; the statute states that either way is lawful. Also, if you do have a concealed carry license, remember, that you can carry it in any place but for those listed previously.

 

[Dinky]

Sigh, that sucks! I live in VA and we have reciprocity in almost every state except the ********* Northeast, West Coast, MN, and IL. They really need to continue pushing national reciprocity. This state by state nonsense gets good people thrown in jail.. Example: An Army soldier was reassigned from TX to NY. He was traveling on government orders. He got a flat tire in DC. A cop pulled over to help him out and saw a gun case in his trunk. In the ********* District of Washington you get a mandatory felony year for each weapon and each round found in your possession. No questions, no exceptions, the judge sends you straight to jail. The guy managed to get out with the help of JAG officers, but he will carry the felony charge for the rest of his life. He will never be allowed to vote, own another weapon, and will have negative impacts on any potential security clearances, therefore limiting his military career..

https://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

Yeah that sucks. Lots of loop holes for sure. Another reason I'll stay away from the east coast. Oregon is bad just in Portland the rest of the state is nice lol.

 

[Ramit355]

If you are a non resident of Fla. with a Fla. permit its not with in the laws of Fla. unless you have a permit from your resident state. See below the actual Fla. law from their web site:

Can a nonresident get a concealed carry permit in Florida?
A resident of the United States who is a nonresident of Florida, may carry aconcealed weapon or concealed firearm while in this state if that person is 21 years of age or older, has in his or her immediate possession a valid license to carry aconcealed weapon or firearm issued by the state of their residence.

 

[Ramit355]

Fla. is very lenient on some gun laws and not so much on others. Ohio is likewise on many laws,but very different on vehicle hand and long gun laws.

 

[corneileous]

For Fla. Residents with a permit and with out for a vehicle.

WHERE CAN I KEEP MY GUN IN MY CAR?
This is a question commonly asked, but rarely able to be answered. You may keep, with or without a license, a firearm in your "private conveyance", otherwise known as a vehicle. Fl. Stat. s. 790.251(5) states "it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use." The important, and most often misunderstood, parts of this provision are the phrases "securely encased" and "not readily accessible". "Securely encased" means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; orin a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access. Fl. Stat. 790.001(17) (emphasis added). An important note in the list underlined previously is that whatever you keep your gun in it must be closed but not necessarily locked. Now, there is the second option of storing your gun in your vehicle where it is not "readily accessible for immediate use". "readily accessible for immediate use" is when "a firearm or other weapon is carried on the person or within such close proximity and in such a manner that it can be retrieved and used as easily and quickly as if carried on the person." Fl. Stat. 790.001(16). Keep in mind, this statute does not require you to carry your firearm securely encased and not readily accessible for immediate use; the statute states that either way is lawful. Also, if you do have a concealed carry license, remember, that you can carry it in any place but for those listed previously.

So what’s that saying, the only lawful way someone can keep a loaded pistol in a vehicle in Florida is that for one, they have to have a permission slip and two, the gun has to be kept on that person?

If so, is that only for a Florida resident, or can anyone from out of state do that, that has reciprocity with Florida?


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[ReefRaider]

For Fla. Residents with a permit and with out for a vehicle.

WHERE CAN I KEEP MY GUN IN MY CAR?
This is a question commonly asked, but rarely able to be answered. You may keep, with or without a license, a firearm in your "private conveyance", otherwise known as a vehicle. Fl. Stat. s. 790.251(5) states "it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use." The important, and most often misunderstood, parts of this provision are the phrases "securely encased" and "not readily accessible". "Securely encased" means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; orin a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access. Fl. Stat. 790.001(17) (emphasis added). An important note in the list underlined previously is that whatever you keep your gun in it must be closed but not necessarily locked. Now, there is the second option of storing your gun in your vehicle where it is not "readily accessible for immediate use". "readily accessible for immediate use" is when "a firearm or other weapon is carried on the person or within such close proximity and in such a manner that it can be retrieved and used as easily and quickly as if carried on the person." Fl. Stat. 790.001(16). Keep in mind, this statute does not require you to carry your firearm securely encased and not readily accessible for immediate use; the statute states that either way is lawful. Also, if you do have a concealed carry license, remember, that you can carry it in any place but for those listed previously.

Be nice to know where you got that from.

Reads like jibberish. Shows Statutes # but not the actual text of that statute.

The key working in there is "without a permit".

 

[ReefRaider]

For Fla. Residents with a permit and with out for a vehicle.

WHERE CAN I KEEP MY GUN IN MY CAR?
This is a question commonly asked, but rarely able to be answered. You may keep, with or without a license, a firearm in your "private conveyance", otherwise known as a vehicle. Fl. Stat. s. 790.251(5) states "it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use." The important, and most often misunderstood, parts of this provision are the phrases "securely encased" and "not readily accessible". "Securely encased" means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; orin a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access. Fl. Stat. 790.001(17) (emphasis added). An important note in the list underlined previously is that whatever you keep your gun in it must be closed but not necessarily locked. Now, there is the second option of storing your gun in your vehicle where it is not "readily accessible for immediate use". "readily accessible for immediate use" is when "a firearm or other weapon is carried on the person or within such close proximity and in such a manner that it can be retrieved and used as easily and quickly as if carried on the person." Fl. Stat. 790.001(16). Keep in mind, this statute does not require you to carry your firearm securely encased and not readily accessible for immediate use; the statute states that either way is lawful. Also, if you do have a concealed carry license, remember, that you can carry it in any place but for those listed previously.

790.251 is for people without a permit , not both with and without.

 

[ReefRaider]

If you are a non resident of Fla. with a Fla. permit its not with in the laws of Fla. unless you have a permit from your resident state. See below the actual Fla. law from their web site:

Can a nonresident get a concealed carry permit in Florida?
A resident of the United States who is a nonresident of Florida, may carry aconcealed weapon or concealed firearm while in this state if that person is 21 years of age or older, has in his or her immediate possession a valid license to carry aconcealed weapon or firearm issued by the state of their residence.

Let me ask you something. Why does Florida issue permits to people out of state if that permit is useless to them here ?? What purpose would it serve? I know there are states that don't recognize Florida permits. Not so sure about what permits Florida will not recognize , since I'm not in that boat.