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So if you bought a new rf hub would the keys you have now be able to program to the new hub as the keys have been already programmed to the hub you have now ?Well, a full re-wire is finished (with heavier gauge wire) and still no functioning handles. And now when I check for faults, I do NOT have any: previously I was getting the B25A9/B25AA errors (Front Driver/Passenger Door Handle Sense- General electrical failure) when the handles were both disconnected (wires coiled in the kick panels) AND when they were connected but improperly wired (sense/return wires switched). Now there are NO errors with both handles connected. I can't completely rule out a pair of bad handles (however infinitesimal the chance may be), but at least I am confident that the wiring isn't the issue now.
Also, prior to connecting the passenger handle today (the driver side was all buttoned up and the door back together after yesterday's "fun"), I pinned the C2 connector at positions 7(sense)/17(return), I checked for continuity at bare ends (prior to installing the Amp Multilock .40 female connector/pins). I just got a brand new Klein MM400 with auto ranging functionality. The meter sounded an alert and showed 0 on the display (it reads "OL" when nothing is connected). I have no clue what the problem is, but I question whether this RF Hub is functioning correctly. Once again, my hub part number is P68245484AD (reading that number from both the physical label on the hub itself and as it reads from AlfaOBD).
As for what (and how) I received from allmoparparts: my package from Benny had the handles each in a plastic bag (not MOPAR marked bags, plain clear plastic bags) and they were bubble-wrapped at the bottom of the shipping box. Then, the four antennas were each in their own properly labeled MOPAR box. However, the RF Hub was sitting loose in the shipping box- no box for it at all. Also, my order was originally missing the Power Switch- that had to be shipped after I contacted Benny. I'm wondering if this hub have been a failed part that somehow got put in the "good stock" location?
I can't believe the wiring has problems now as it's all new. I worked much more slowly and methodically building each "harness" starting at the antenna install locations, and routing them to the C2 connector. Each wire socket is inserted into the proper location on the C2 connector and they all 'clicked' into place. Each pin on the RF Hub is present, not bent or "pushed in", so I have to believe the connections are good. I have remote keyless entry (lock/unlock with the fob buttons) and remote start, and the Keyless GO portion of the functionality is working just fine.
I got nothing now...
Great. I have to hope that connecting the C2 connector (which I'm certain is pinned correctly) to the new hub to check the passive entry can work regardless of the key programming, but that doesn't sound likely. Are keys locked to the hub? Programming the key to the hub required my truck's private PIN initially, but any other operation with the hub (replace/reset and the like) uses "0000". Perhaps that could mean my currently configured key will work with a new RF Hub. Thoughts?
I can send you a hanress I’m making if you want to try it out And see if that gets you going .Good question skuppy069...that is something I did NOT think about.
At any rate, I asked Benny at allmoparparts about this situation, and I was told the "fix" for me to find out if the RF Hub is bad will be to buy another new RF Hub, see if that works, and if it does, let him know and send the first hub back to them so he can take that info to the parts manager to TRY to get a warranty claim through. And the warranty claim would require the vehicle VIN and mileage to be included with the request- of course since this is a non-standard install, my VIN won't actually show this being an available feature. That fact seems to mean I'm SOL, as he said he'd expect the claim to "bounce back". And now there's a valid question of IF I can even test a new hub since I may not have a functional key!
Regarding the current hub, he wondered if crossing the wires (sense and return from the handles) could have caused a failure. I have no idea, but given that at least one other member in here messed up his pins but corrected it and is now fully functional (fearroyo I think ran into that issue), I'm not inclined think swapping the signal and return wiring would have fried the Hub. COULD that have fried the keyless go function? Possibly. Will I find out? Not likely.
I also asked him if it was possible a used/returned part could have been shipped to me by accident. He stated he didn't think that they could have sent me a used part as they are all supposedly special ordered, but unlike Ghost_Ram's pic (post #216) of his parts order, my RF Hub was not factory packaged when I opened my box from allmoparparts (he also ordered from there). My hub was just sitting in the box loose. I find it a bit hard to believe that a "special ordered" part got shipped from MOPAR to the dealership in that condition, and there's no good reason why the parts dude who boxed my order (note that that person also left the ignition switch OUT of my box) should have fully unpacked a factory piece for shipping purposes, but who knows?
Needless to say, I'm less than thrilled at this time. And yes, I realize Benny can't just GIVE me whatever I want- he can't be sure I didn't screw up the hub, he didn't pack the order so he can't be sure I didn't just toss the factory packaging and claim otherwise, and since it's a non-stock install, he can't just take me at my word that something has failed, but it still is a less than ideal situation.
Unfortunately, new hub= new fob. As soon as you programmed that fob, it, along with your VIN and secret key info got married to the new hub. If you’re going with a new hub, this would be a situation where you might want to see if @STecoD can unlock that fob.
Good question skuppy069...that is something I did NOT think about.
At any rate, I asked Benny at allmoparparts about this situation, and I was told the "fix" for me to find out if the RF Hub is bad will be to buy another new RF Hub, see if that works, and if it does, let him know and send the first hub back to them so he can take that info to the parts manager to TRY to get a warranty claim through. And the warranty claim would require the vehicle VIN and mileage to be included with the request- of course since this is a non-standard install, my VIN won't actually show this being an available feature. That fact seems to mean I'm SOL, as he said he'd expect the claim to "bounce back". And now there's a valid question of IF I can even test a new hub since I may not have a functional key!
Regarding the current hub, he wondered if crossing the wires (sense and return from the handles) could have caused a failure. I have no idea, but given that at least one other member in here messed up his pins but corrected it and is now fully functional (fearroyo I think ran into that issue), I'm not inclined think swapping the signal and return wiring would have fried the Hub. COULD that have fried the keyless go function? Possibly. Will I find out? Not likely.
I also asked him if it was possible a used/returned part could have been shipped to me by accident. He stated he didn't think that they could have sent me a used part as they are all supposedly special ordered, but unlike Ghost_Ram's pic (post #216) of his parts order, my RF Hub was not factory packaged when I opened my box from allmoparparts (he also ordered from there). My hub was just sitting in the box loose. I find it a bit hard to believe that a "special ordered" part got shipped from MOPAR to the dealership in that condition, and there's no good reason why the parts dude who boxed my order (note that that person also left the ignition switch OUT of my box) should have fully unpacked a factory piece for shipping purposes, but who knows?
Needless to say, I'm less than thrilled at this time. And yes, I realize Benny can't just GIVE me whatever I want- he can't be sure I didn't screw up the hub, he didn't pack the order so he can't be sure I didn't just toss the factory packaging and claim otherwise, and since it's a non-stock install, he can't just take me at my word that something has failed, but it still is a less than ideal situation.
