Hurricane HEMI?

[jmr]

The 2.0L Hurricane looks very similar.

 

[Six Turboed]

I was die hard HEMI since 2005, but through circumstance I landed in a new 2025 Laramie with the inline six SO. The engine has surpassed all of my expectations, except sound. It does not have that V8 rumble, but it does have more HP, more torque, more responsive, and better MPG. I have not found any data suggesting whether or not it has hemispheric cylinders. The engine has been utilized in the new Grand Wagoneer, so it's been out for a few years.

A lot of people do not know this SST
(Straight Six Turbo) motor has been out for a couple years now, but the first year for the Ram trucks. The manual says to floor it once or twice during break in but do not hold it down long. Today I was lucky enough to find myself the only vehicle on my side and I mashed the gas a good bit from a roll and these trucks flat out get after it! My truck is getting good and broke in now and WOW I can't get over how these motors are constantly pushing wanting more the whole way. For a 4X4 truck they move out right fast and in a hurry, plenty of power. I would love to ride in the High Output version!!

 

[DanAR]

This is what the 3.0 Hurricane chamber looks like.

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I believe that would be called a pentroof combustion chamber. With 4 valves per cylinder it’s really about the only practical chamber to use.

 

[Marshall]

Hemis were developed to race at high rpm with better airflow from siamese valve orientation.

They aren't truck motors. The fact they stuffed them into trucks and marketed the $hit outta them changes nothing. Physics is.

How many GD times I gotta say this?

I never said they they where not race motors, that’s one of the main reasons they where developed
But they where in a lot of big cars in the 1950’s and heavy trucks
They worked for me,
Guess I will leave it at that and bow out .

 

[HEMIMANN]

I never said they they where not race motors, that’s one of the main reasons they where developed
But they where in a lot of big cars in the 1950’s and heavy trucks
They worked for me,
Guess I will leave it at that and bow out .

So you don't have a point. Great.

 

[Alli]

I was die hard HEMI since 2005, but through circumstance I landed in a new 2025 Laramie with the inline six SO. The engine has surpassed all of my expectations, except sound. It does not have that V8 rumble, but it does have more HP, more torque, more responsive, and better MPG. I have not found any data suggesting whether or not it has hemispheric cylinders. The engine has been utilized in the new Grand Wagoneer, so it's been out for a few years.

We just got a 2025 Laramie as well with the I6. I have only seen pictures so far, but my husband likes it. We are the original owners of a 2006 1 ton mega cab w/ 5.9 cummins and a 2014 Eco diesel as well. Not buying any new diesel anymore since to many emissions crap.

 

[CMV157]

Lets remember folks, the hemi was great reliability wise in some ways but lets not forget all the dreaded ticks, lifter, and exhaust manifold issues. I know some have lasted a long time! But the 5.7/6.4 engines really aren't high mileage engines. Once you (if you) get to 125-150k it's a ticking time bomb. On the flip side, the I6 is a very simple strong platform. Sure it has been overcomplicated with twin turbos and the water to air intercooler system etc.. How long will it last? Time will tell. But the generic statement that "small displacement/high power engines won't last as long" would only be certain if the smaller engine wasn't designed to withstand higher pressures and more power, which they certainly are. I do think they will generally have more gremlins than the hemi due to all the tech and bolt ons, but in terms of overall longevity mileage wise, I bet they are every bit as good as the hemi if not better. It's all speculatory for now so we will have to see how it plays out.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Lets remember folks, the hemi was great reliability wise in some ways but lets not forget all the dreaded ticks, lifter, and exhaust manifold issues. I know some have lasted a long time! But the 5.7/6.4 engines really aren't high mileage engines. Once you (if you) get to 125-150k it's a ticking time bomb. On the flip side, the I6 is a very simple strong platform. Sure it has been overcomplicated with twin turbos and the water to air intercooler system etc.. How long will it last? Time will tell. But the generic statement that "small displacement/high power engines won't last as long" would only be certain if the smaller engine wasn't designed to withstand higher pressures and more power, which they certainly are. I do think they will generally have more gremlins than the hemi due to all the tech and bolt ons, but in terms of overall longevity mileage wise, I bet they are every bit as good as the hemi if not better. It's all speculatory for now so we will have to see how it plays out.

The generic statement is true due to thermodynamic physics. It has been proven repeatedly in past reality.
Wishing it were otherwise doesn't make reality cease to exist.
Ecoboost turbos were shot @ 70,000 miles, engine life is app. 100,000 miles. In an engine 23% larger displacement than the Hurricane.

 

[rvance]

True hemispherical combustion chambers were great...in the sixties. IMO, if you want to see a great head design, go look at what Yamaha did with the Ford SHO Taurus some years back....5 valves, lots of go power.

I had a 426 Roadrunner and a Taurus SHO. Both great engines for their purpose. I have the Pentastar and I'm happy with it. It has more horsepower and torque than my 360 73 Ford and no one ever said the 360 wasn't a truck engine. I think it's too soon to say about the super sixes. I had a slant 6 225 and it was faster than a lot of my friends parents V8s. Of course it was lighter. I'm not in the market for a new truck so I'll just watch here with my popcorn. Y'all carry on.

 

[Dusty]

I had a 426 Roadrunner and a Taurus SHO. Both great engines for their purpose. I have the Pentastar and I'm happy with it. It has more horsepower and torque than my 360 73 Ford and no one ever said the 360 wasn't a truck engine. I think it's too soon to say about the super sixes. I had a slant 6 225 and it was faster than a lot of my friends parents V8s. Of course it was lighter. I'm not in the market for a new truck so I'll just watch here with my popcorn. Y'all carry on.

I don't think your response will be adequate enough to satisfy the gods of opinion. You're not listening to the loudest voice.

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 122366 miles.

 

[rvance]

I don't think your response will be adequate enough to satisfy the gods of opinion. You're not listening to the loudest voice.

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 122366 miles.

It's OK. I'm on several gun forums and these guys are amateurs.

 

[20IndyRam]

The generic statement is true due to thermodynamic physics. It has been proven repeatedly in past reality.
Wishing it were otherwise doesn't make reality cease to exist.
Ecoboost turbos were shot @ 70,000 miles, engine life is app. 100,000 miles. In an engine 23% larger displacement than the Hurricane.

By your logic, diesel engines should fall apart in the first few thousand miles. They have far higher compression, loading, torque, and temperatures.

They survive because they are designed to handle all of these. Time will tell whether the Hurricane I6 was designed to handle the loads it's seeing in the Truck applications. I like the configuration. Just don't want to be an early adpoter.

There were some Ecoboost configurations that were real clusters. The more recent 2.3, 2.7, and 3.5 engines appear to last over 200K is maintained. Where are you getting your information from?

 

[CMV157]

The generic statement is true due to thermodynamic physics. It has been proven repeatedly in past reality.
Wishing it were otherwise doesn't make reality cease to exist.
Ecoboost turbos were shot @ 70,000 miles, engine life is app. 100,000 miles. In an engine 23% larger displacement than the Hurricane

Again, I agree if we are talking about an engine that is similar in everyway except smaller displacement. The life would be less for sure. But there are a ton of ways engineers can increase the capacity of connecting rods, cranks, pistons, heads, blocks, etc. to maintain similar longevity even though displacement is less. Particularly when compared to a 5.7 hemi which largely has tech from the late 90's to early 2000's when it debuted in 2003 (hasn't had any earth shattering upgrades). As for the ecoboost, I have many friends that drive Fords and from my experience they easily have similar longevity to a 5.7 hemi. Yes, they can have more gremlins (sensors, turbos, etc) but the vast majority of them go well beyond 100k. Although I am positive it has happened, it is not normal for one to die at 70k.

 

[Scottly]

It's OK. I'm on several gun forums and these guys are amateurs.

Especially those guys that don't realize the 1911 is God's chosen pistol

 

[Deltron]

the 1911 is God's chosen pistol

It is.

 

[Dusty]

Charge more and lasts less about sums it up, nobody prices have gone up higher then stelantis and this just scratches the surface, next 4-5 years they will be on an island. Kind sad considering they aren't known for quality with any of their brands.
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Any idea of when the transaction prices were documented?

There's no date on the graph and things may have changed. A few weeks ago I received a direct mail offering of $4250 + $500 off the best deal on a new Ram 1500.

My son just purchased a 2024 Rebel 2500 for $73000 out-the-door from a $90773 MSRP list price. Although he was unaware of any factory rebates, it appears the dealers are getting direct financial support in order to move excessive inventory. My local salesperson has confirmed this.

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 122412 miles.

 

[Burla]

well there is a date but it is in years. so if something happened in months you would need to see if something happened. Rebates never tell the story on how much under dealers invoice you can purchase something, there is always a discount for dealers that can take 100 vehicles you and I will never know about, unless you are I have a sister in the business like I had. Which is why large dealers sell for less, but as a carrot small dealers get the occasional loss liter item usually the oldest vehicle on the lot. I imagine many more deals are coming as no way demand will keep up with supply in this market, no way! But it is a shell game because the trucks are 50% more then they were in 2019, so there is a TON of room in those invoices for dealers to still make money. I think we are in big trouble though, because until they figure out what to do with EV losses, those are loming. It is a good time to jump on a deal like your son did would by my opinion, unless I am missing something.

 

[Gunner372]

Don’t know if this only Canadian specification but the 6cyl Hurricane only comes with Start/Stop that can’t be permanently shut off. This adds a layer of engine complication that adds unnecessary maintenance vulnerability. Don’t know for the hurricane but on other Start/Stop set ups need a a twin coil starter that needs automatic replacement after a prescribed number or cycles, over sized battery (lucky to get three years out of it), a plate a/c condenser, electric backup oil pump, a capacitor for electrical backup, etc, all layers of technology that I don’t want. Hate Start/Stop, we chose to drive trucks, don’t want this on my truck and if it’s standard at least allow me to disable it. Should be able to dive deep in the computer and change the disable switch to default on. Any thoughts?

 

[Docwagon1776]

Don’t know if this only Canadian specification but the 6cyl Hurricane only comes with Start/Stop that can’t be permanently shut off. This adds a layer of engine complication that adds unnecessary maintenance vulnerability. Don’t know for the hurricane but on other Start/Stop set ups need a a twin coil starter that needs automatic replacement after a prescribed number or cycles, over sized battery (lucky to get three years out of it), a plate a/c condenser, electric backup oil pump, a capacitor for electrical backup, etc, all layers of technology that I don’t want. Hate Start/Stop, we chose to drive trucks, don’t want this on my truck and if it’s standard at least allow me to disable it. Should be able to dive deep in the computer and change the disable switch to default on. Any thoughts?

I think you'll be hard pressed to find any light duty vehicle with an automatic transmission that does not have stop/start now. 3/4 ton and up, or manual transmission. Europe, even the sticks have stop/start as I learned rather unexpectedly with a rental.

 

[dordoc2506]

Next truck will be a 2500. I tow a 30 ft travel trailer with my 2017 Ram 1500 5.7 and loaded it's probably about 6500lbs. I will probably move to a slightly bigger travel trailer which my hemi will probably still tow fine,but I'll probably switch to the 6.4 2500. I only have 66,000 miles on my truck so not getting a new one anytime soon.

I used a 2006 1500 with a hemi and the HD Towing setup, came from factory with the 10,000lb towing capacity, towed a 28 ft 5th wheel trailer that topped out at 8500lbs, took out the rear end at 45,000 kms(27,000 miles) and again at 90,000 kms (54,000 miles). Loaded it up going up and down the Rockies here in Alberta. I have since been using a 2500 with a 6.7 Cummings, no issues with the weight or travel through the mountains.