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firefighter

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is there a way to improve the gas mileage on my 99 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 5.9 gas 51000 miles and it has 285 65 17 mud terrain tires on it which is causing the speedometer to be 10 without buying a programmer. As of right now I'm getting eight miles to the gallon need to get better don't want to have to trade it in
 

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You have a truck shaped like a brick with a 360 cubic inch engine.
If your keeping it tuned and don't want to trade to street tires, about all you can do is drive downhill a lot, or keep your foot out of the skinny pedal.
 
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Thats 8 on highway I've changed the spark plugs. Would changing spark plug wires and distributor cap help
 

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^There was two threads. You posted in the other one.
 

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i get 10 in town and 14-16 on the highway
 

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A failed plenum gasket, failing cat, and/or failing O2 sensors will destroy the gas mileage of these trucks.
 

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These trucks from the factory are rated for like 14 mpg.

New plugs, new wires, new cap n rotor, fix plenum, replace cat and front o2, gett skinny street tires and thats probably gonna be the best your gonna get.
 

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Unless someone perfects Stan Meyers hydrogen system which claims to be able to be fitted to any vehicle then we can go from coast to coast on 20 gallons of water....

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I had posted about my fuel economy numbers in another thread quite a while ago. Here's an excerpt from that post telling about what kind of fuel economy it is possible to get with the right mods:

I have a half ton 98 Dodge Ram 4x4 with the 5.2 liter magnum V8. The tires I'm currently running are wild country mud terrain MTX, size 265-75-R16. These are load range E. My truck has the 3.92 gear ratio 9.25" Dana rear end. It gets 26-27 mpg highway at 64-66 mph. It averages 18-19 mpg during most city driving. I have modified the engine and exhaust system for maximum fuel efficiency and increased power.
The modifications I have made are as follows:
) Removed thermostat completely, added supplemental E fan to help keep engine operating temps in the 125 - 139 degree range.
) Bosch platinum 4 plugs several heat ranges hotter than stock to work with colder running engine.
) Aftermarket MSD ignition box
) 8 mm spark plug wires for increased spark energy
) Ram air cold air induction with K&N filter
) JBA shorty headers into true dual exhaust, 2" pipe,(one pipe hooks to each header and continues to rear bumper) with no converters and no mufflers.
) Aftermarket oil cooler with fan
) Amsoil synthetic oil & lubricants
) Custom tune to work with the changes I have made, including 4 degrees of timing advance, custom spark and A/F mixture curves depending on throttle position.

The thing to take from this is that not everyone will be able to get numbers like these. They are dependent on the modifications I have made to the engine, air intake system, and exhaust system, with a custom tune to work with these mods. The best mileage is achieved driving at at the ideal speeds, in a truck in excellent mechanical condition with low mileage (62,400 I believe) and using synthetic lubricants. In that narrow band where it seems power and fuel economy intersect in just the precise amount, I do enjoy really decent mileage with my truck. However, change something in the equation, say driving at 80 mph on a long trip rather than 65, and I average closer to 17-18 mpg. In city driving, if I'm caught in heavy traffic, and don't get up over 40 mph, with frequent stops and a lot of idling, my city figures are much closer to stock at around 15 mpg. If you have a truck in good condition, and been recently rebuilt or dosent have a lot of miles, I'd say go for it and try some of these mods if you want to save $$ on gas in the long run. I did most of the work myself, and it didn't cost that much, and if I drive her nice on long trips, I can get 100+ miles more out of a full tank compared to the stock figures.
Dave
 

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^^^ Yeah right 27mpg out of one of these trucks is not going to happen.........ever. How did you change the timing curve and fuel trim?
 

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im going to agree 27 mpg is pretty far out but changing fuel and timing is easy with the right software to change fuel cell numbers and advance. But not everyone has a programing set up. heres what I have tried in the past with a 2-3 mpg gain. swap pre and post cat sensors. on the flex plate you have windows for your crank sensor and by elongating the mounting holes for your sensor you can move it. efectivly tricking the pcm into thinking the engine is a couple degrees ahead and there for advances the timing a bit. and this will take some fine tuning of monitoring your data stream under load watching timing and knock retard. the pcm will only advance the timing until the knock sensor indicates detenation and will then retard it slightly. with good fuel and tune parts(which you should have given your goal) and no leaking plenum you can squeeze high 30s for full advance and will be a couple degrees higher then normal. frequently check tire pressure as the wheather changes and regular service. a realistic milage is most likely going to be 10-12 with your setup.
worry about fuel milage in a truck is like worring about the tow rating of a prius
 

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You can make it happen, I obviously did, but, please note... I'm not claiming to just get 26-27 mpg on average in any kind of driving. First of all, there are the modifications I have made to the ignition, intake, and exhaust systems, backed up by the custom tune I am running, on a truck in like new condition with only 62,000 miles. Also notice that I stated it only gets those figures when I am driving between 64 and 66 mph on the open road pretty much continuously with no stopping and starting. At just 10 mph above or below that speed, the numbers roll off dramatically, in the much closer to stock 16-17 mpg area. So although up to 27 mpg is possible, I'm only getting this when operating under the ideal conditions, with the engine running the ideal tune to work with the ignition, intake, and exhaust modifications I have made. I have checked this many times when making long road trips in Florida, where I wasn't in a hurry so that I didn't mind driving a steady 65 mph the whole time. If I'm using the truck pretty much continuously for open highway driving over long trips, I will get between 660 and 700 miles out of a tank of fuel, (standard 26 gal tank) providing that I am driving at 65mph the entire time, and do not get caught in slower traffic or have to do any in town driving. The custom programming was done by a friend who works in a speed shop who is really good with stuff like that, I told him what I wanted to achieve, and he made it happen. I do not have enough technical experience with custom tuning to have done this myself. I do recall, however, that he has the air fuel ratio set pretty lean under light throttle conditions.
Dave
 
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You have a one in a million truck.

Note: Magnum motors do not have knock sensors in or on them.
 
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