Is the Ram Classic 'Dead' for 2025? Or still going?

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I read in THIS and another article they're going to stop making the Classic. Then I read another article which seemed to say they would continue into 2025 (but was that remaining inventory?). Supposedly they've come out with a Tradesman in the 5th gen style. It's been a good run. Has there been any 'Official' word? What have you heard?

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The CLASSIC 1500 stop being made at the Warren Michigan Assembly Plant.

Stellantis has officially confirmed that 2024 will be the very last model year of the Ram 1500 Classic. But it had quite the run, entering production way back in 2008 as the “Dodge Ram 1500.
”Aug 6, 2024

some news on the 2500 & bigger Rams, at the Saltillo MX assembly plant
IT looks like they will continue using the updated 4TH Gen Body Style, so 4th Gen Body parts will still be made

 

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Yeah, I saw the 2500's were still 4th gen. And that's the only way a guy (or business) can get a regular cab work truck.

Anyone know if they're still making 1500s at the Mexico plant?
 

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AFAIK all 1500's are now built at the Sterling Heights plant now that the 1500 Classic is no more. This article is a couple years old but it says that all 5th gens are built at the SHAP.

 

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They built the Sterling Heights Michigan Ram Plant, just to build Generation 5 Ram 1500s

The Warren Michigan Assembly Plant made the only Generation 4 Rams until maybe a year ago & then they also started making some Jeep Models.

Saltillo Mexico Assembly Plant builds Generation 4 & more recently Gen 4.5 Rams at the Main Plant
The Gen 4 Regular Cab Ram & ALL of the 2 & 4 door Heavy Duty Rams are produced down there.

In a secondary area, they build all of the Ram Vans in Saltillo.Mx.
 
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And I thought I read they were building Gen 4's in Brazil too. For the S. American market.

Dang...I was liking the idea of driving a 10 y/o truck that was still a current model :D
 

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Brazil have the 4th generation classic edition, limited series around 100 truck or so,but nothing in north America, sad.
 
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Kind of an aside, but I read this today. Interesting twist on things. Won't affect 4th gens though. All the guy need to do is bide his time until the next economic shock and it'll be for sale at a bargain:
 

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Just got a 2024 Ram Tradesman Classic. Major problem and safety issue. Anyone else seeing this? The problem is that when shifting from drive (D) to reverse (R) or vice versa, there is a long delay before the transmission engages. Irritating on flat ground, but a real issue on a slope. We've had one accident and one near miss in the first 6,000 miles, due to the truck rolling downhill during this delay in shifting. Here is what happened. Backed down a slope, came to a complete stop, shifted into D and gave it some gas. Rather than engaging and moving forward, the truck started rolling backwards downhill, transmission not yet engaged. It finally lurched forward after rolling backward for several feet. I took it in to the dealer, who consulted with Ram engineers, and this was their reply. "a delay that would be a problem would be 5 seconds or more." Furthermore, "if the TCM or ABS see wheel rotation, the longer the delay". Supposedly they consider this delay and vehicle free-wheeling to be normal, and there is no adjustment, no fix, nothing they can do. I'm pretty spooked about what happens next time if there is someone behind me or I am trying to pull out of the boat ramp. The Ram service team finally explained to me that this is a built-in feature of the 8hp70 transmission, which is common in the Tradesman. The 8hp75 transmission, which is also used in some Rams, supposedly does not have this issue, and shifting is instantaneous. Has anyone run into this and found a fix?
 

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Just got a 2024 Ram Tradesman Classic. Major problem and safety issue. Anyone else seeing this? The problem is that when shifting from drive (D) to reverse (R) or vice versa, there is a long delay before the transmission engages. Irritating on flat ground, but a real issue on a slope. We've had one accident and one near miss in the first 6,000 miles, due to the truck rolling downhill during this delay in shifting. Here is what happened. Backed down a slope, came to a complete stop, shifted into D and gave it some gas. Rather than engaging and moving forward, the truck started rolling backwards downhill, transmission not yet engaged. It finally lurched forward after rolling backward for several feet. I took it in to the dealer, who consulted with Ram engineers, and this was their reply. "a delay that would be a problem would be 5 seconds or more." Furthermore, "if the TCM or ABS see wheel rotation, the longer the delay". Supposedly they consider this delay and vehicle free-wheeling to be normal, and there is no adjustment, no fix, nothing they can do. I'm pretty spooked about what happens next time if there is someone behind me or I am trying to pull out of the boat ramp. The Ram service team finally explained to me that this is a built-in feature of the 8hp70 transmission, which is common in the Tradesman. The 8hp75 transmission, which is also used in some Rams, supposedly does not have this issue, and shifting is instantaneous. Has anyone run into this and found a fix?
Why is your foot not on the brake when shifting gears?
 

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Just got a 2024 Ram Tradesman Classic. Major problem and safety issue. Anyone else seeing this? The problem is that when shifting from drive (D) to reverse (R) or vice versa, there is a long delay before the transmission engages. Irritating on flat ground, but a real issue on a slope. We've had one accident and one near miss in the first 6,000 miles, due to the truck rolling downhill during this delay in shifting. Here is what happened. Backed down a slope, came to a complete stop, shifted into D and gave it some gas. Rather than engaging and moving forward, the truck started rolling backwards downhill, transmission not yet engaged. It finally lurched forward after rolling backward for several feet. I took it in to the dealer, who consulted with Ram engineers, and this was their reply. "a delay that would be a problem would be 5 seconds or more." Furthermore, "if the TCM or ABS see wheel rotation, the longer the delay". Supposedly they consider this delay and vehicle free-wheeling to be normal, and there is no adjustment, no fix, nothing they can do. I'm pretty spooked about what happens next time if there is someone behind me or I am trying to pull out of the boat ramp. The Ram service team finally explained to me that this is a built-in feature of the 8hp70 transmission, which is common in the Tradesman. The 8hp75 transmission, which is also used in some Rams, supposedly does not have this issue, and shifting is instantaneous. Has anyone run into this and found a fix?
Hold your foot on the brake for a few seconds longer when doing this. Seems like a no brainer to me. I agree that the delay would be annoying, but short of trying to reprogram the transmission it's likely your only solution.
 

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Why is your foot not on the brake when shifting gears?
Foot is on the brake and at a dead stop before shifting. But after shifting and moving my foot to the accelerator, the truck will still roll downhill for several seconds as if it was in neutral.
 

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Foot is on the brake and at a dead stop before shifting. But after shifting and moving my foot to the accelerator, the truck will still roll downhill for several seconds as if it was in neutral.
Letting the truck roll while waiting for the trans to engage sounds like a good way to put unnecessary strain on your drive train and trans.
 

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Letting the truck roll while waiting for the trans to engage sounds like a good way to put unnecessary strain on your drive train and trans.
I agree 100%. I am having to train my brain to keep my foot on the brake and count (one-thousand one, one-thousand two, one-thousand three, one-thousand four, one-thousand five) before moving my foot to the accelerator and trying to go. I would never have bought the Ram Tradesman Classic with the 8hp70 transmission if I had known that this "feature" was considered normal.
 
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