Levelling or 3” lift that rides as close to stock as possible

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@El_Lobo_Gris1500C

Can you post a picture of your truck and your measurements? We can certainly get you dialed in. Their are plenty of options out there
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Measurements:
Left Front: 39 3/4"
Left Rear: 39 3/4"
Right Front: 40"
Right Rear: 40 3/8"

***tried to get truck as level as possible in parking lot so may be no exactly level hence the discrepancy between left and right side***

Tires are Toyo Open Country ATII LT295/65/R20 on stock rims (3/8 wheel spacer as too close to the UCA - Mevotech UCA - couldn't afford the Zone UCA at the time)

getting rid of the running boards going to AMP Extreme Power Boards - just waiting for delivery.

Thanks for the assistance
 

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Measurements:
Left Front: 39 3/4"
Left Rear: 39 3/4"
Right Front: 40"
Right Rear: 40 3/8"

***tried to get truck as level as possible in parking lot so may be no exactly level hence the discrepancy between left and right side***

Tires are Toyo Open Country ATII LT295/65/R20 on stock rims (3/8 wheel spacer as too close to the UCA - Mevotech UCA - couldn't afford the Zone UCA at the time)

getting rid of the running boards going to AMP Extreme Power Boards - just waiting for delivery.

Thanks for the assistance
Good choice of Tire!!

I would recommend the Tuf Truck

TTC-1223VT​

They will give you another 1.5” dual rate and less squat. They should still work with your Bilsteins in the rear so I don’t see having to get new shocks. Thuren makes a nice track bar bracket but it’s not a mandatory part and can be added later if your axle becomes off center after the springs (unlikely)

You’ll be sitting with roughly a 2” rake which will clean up your stance and when hauling something you won’t look like you’re struggling.
 

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Back in my Jeeping days (owned 6 in total) I built for capability with as little highway compromise as possible. “LCG” (low center of gravity) is a key piece of that equation. This nets better control off road as well. I cut down my plastic fenders and added a 1.5” lift to fit 35x12.5s while maintaining LCG. The extra 3” of track width improved handling in general. It was still very close to stock which is something that will save money and headaches down the road. All this came at the expense of gas mileage, 5mpg overall.

Capability is the only reason to lift a vehicle … unless you’re building a parking lot queen.
 

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Good choice of Tire!!

I would recommend the Tuf Truck

TTC-1223VT​

They will give you another 1.5” dual rate and less squat. They should still work with your Bilsteins in the rear so I don’t see having to get new shocks. Thuren makes a nice track bar bracket but it’s not a mandatory part and can be added later if your axle becomes off center after the springs (unlikely)

You’ll be sitting with roughly a 2” rake which will clean up your stance and when hauling something you won’t look like you’re struggling.
Thanks Quick_Shifter for the help I will order those!!
 

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Reach out to @[email protected] and use your forum member discount. He can get just about anything and the customer service is truly next level
Just a quick follow up - for @El_Lobo_Gris1500C you suggested the Icon Rear Coils Part# 212150 - it seems were are doing the similar thing - how do these compare to the Tuftruck TTC-1223VT? Is one better than the other?

Online price for Icon is $400 - for Tuftruck $235.

I will reach out to [email protected]

Thanks
 
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Just a quick follow up - for @El_Lobo_Gris1500C you suggested the Icon Rear Coils Part# 212150 - it seems were are doing the similar thing - how do these compare to the Tuftruck TTC-1223VT? Is one better than the other?

Online price for Icon is $400 - for Tuftruck $235.

I will reach out to [email protected]

Thanks

Those 2 rear coils do 2 different tasks. The tuftruck coils are a higher spring rate that is made for handling more tow/haul weight. Tufftruck states, "Note: Recommended for vehicles with a constant minimum load of 500lb." Think of putting a 2500 spring on your 1500. The ICON coils not only offer lift but also offer better/smoother ride on and off road but would squat more than the tufftruck coils if you plan to tow/haul heavy.
 

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Those 2 rear coils do 2 different tasks. The tuftruck coils are a higher spring rate that is made for handling more tow/haul weight. Tufftruck states, "Note: Recommended for vehicles with a constant minimum load of 500lb." Think of putting a 2500 spring on your 1500. The ICON coils not only offer lift but also offer better/smoother ride on and off road but would squat more than the tufftruck coils if you plan to tow/haul heavy.
I wouldn't put the Tufftruck on the 1500s , you will have to always have tons of weight on the bed for it to even feel like OEM lol, so you would actually be making your rear stiffer and a very rough ride ...
 

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I am not a fan of lifting a truck.

What I have done is to have springs specifically made for an application.

I have a 2018 2500 diesel megacab limited. We tow a travel trailer with a tongue weight of 1000lbs

The back sits so much higher than the front on this truck, which makes it difficult to access the bed. What I do is lower the back at least two inches by designing rear springs. They drop the truck and also only drops to a level position when towing. I find the truck handle better and I don’t have that body roll when turning.

The trick is to have the springs made to your application and needs. Raiding a vehicle makes it harder to enter and exit and I am not sure if raising it up hurts the stability since I have never done that. Since I race turbo cars, the lower to the ground the faster I can go, along with a proper suspension.

Just my thoughts.
 

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I’m going to throw out what I have done if it helps anyone. I have a 16 RAM 1500 Big Horn Crew Cab 4x4.
I wanted to go with a slightly taller than factory tire and level the truck. I ended up with a Falcon AT3W in a 285/65R20 which is roughly 34.5” tall. This is an E rated tire so it adds some harshness to the ride all by itself. I run them around 38 psi and that seems like a good sweet spot between removing the harshness and not flushing away my MPG. I then went with Bilstein front 5100s set at 2.8” and a 1” Bilstein rear coil with matching rear 5100 shocks. Just to note.. I do also have Air Lift 5000 Ultimate Plus rear air helper springs but only keep the minimum 5lbs in them unless I’m towing. I never noticed any change in my ride with those. The ride with the Bilstein 5100 struts at 2.8”… Rough! Square edged bumps were very harsh. Around town driving was noticeably worse. The trucks very plush ride was gone. Handling was fine and on the highway is where I felt they shined but I was not satisfied with them around town. I drove the truck like this for 6-8 months.
I decided to upgrade the truck a little further to see if I could improve in the ride. In the front I went with the Bilstein 6112 struts and a set of ICON upper control arms and some new Mevotech sway bar endlinks just for the heck of it. In the back I left the shocks and 1” Bilstein coils alone but added some Core 4x4 Tier 3 control arms and adjustable track bar. I also added a Hellwig rear sway bar along with some new Mevotech sway bar links. The sway bar was strictly an upgrade for towing. We will see how that works out in the future.
The ride in the rear was fine previously. To be honest, I only added the rear control arms and track bar because I was bored and had some $$$ burning a hole in my pocket. I’m a Jeep guy and I used a set on my Jeep build and noticed on their website they sold sets for RAMs and yup… I purchased a set.
The front with the 6112 struts still set at 2.8” is a NIGHT & DAY difference!! So much happier with the ride. The harshness is gone and the around town ride is much improved. It’s not soft…. But it’s never harsh. The highway ride is still very good and handling is fantastic. I couldn’t be happier with how it turned out. my only gripe is with the ICON control arms. The bushings are polyurethane. They tend to transfer a little more noise into the cab. Smooth roads you don’t notice a difference but potholes and bumpy roads the bumps send more noise into the cab. In the long run maybe I’ll replace them with something else. But for now I’m very happy with the much improved ride.
 

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