MMX no tune required cam. Anyone running it?

[Sillygoose]

I installed this cam about a month ago w/ their MDS delete kit. Idles fine on a superchips tune w/ no codes.
Paired with shorty headers, it pulls great. Definitely a noticeable difference in normal low to mid rpm driving as well. Happy with it.

 

[RedSRT4Me]

I installed this cam about a month ago w/ their MDS delete kit. Idles fine on a superchips tune w/ no codes.
Paired with shorty headers, it pulls great. Definitely a noticeable difference in normal low to mid rpm driving as well. Happy with it.

Any chance you've dyno'd the truck?

 

[Resurrected Ram]

I have the diablo sport Jammer CAI tune/Kit and wanted to pair it with this cam with lifter changes (Piece of Mind). Thinking of keeping the mds system just because this is a daily and don't actually drive a long way and well there is not much support for tuning and parts out where I live. si thought this cam and what already have with a little bit of exhaust work and call it done.
Thoughts?

 

[Sillygoose]

Any chance you've dyno'd the truck?

Negative

 

[Resurrected Ram]

I think im going to do this becausse i need to change water pump and power steering pump anyway
might as well just tear everything apart and refresh everything

 

[SixFOURhemiHD]

I just installed this cam on my 18 2500 6.4 because I had a lifter failure. Hellcat lifters and oil pump. Cam feels good but no idea what it added power wise. 70-75psi oil pressure now up from 50ish. Smoothest it’s ever ran since I bought it. Specs on the cam are as follows. Anyone know the OEM truck cam specs? I was curious how Comp achieved an improvement on a stock PCM. I am running a Hemifever 93 tune currently.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Any chance you've dyno'd the truck?

Time slips are the only real proof

 

[RedSRT4Me]

Time slips are the only real proof

Haven't seen any of those either now that you mention it

 

[crazykid1994]

I’m on the edge between cams. This NTR/NSR cam from mmx/moes performance, the NTR/NSR cam from frp, or going with a full on cam. I’m leaning full on cam because that gives me more reason to replace springs and refresh the cylinder heads. Debating on sending them out for a cleaning/mild porting at the same time. Really want to do a full on cam and switch to HP tuners but that’s a lot of extra cost to switch. Hope I can recoup some selling my used pcm and Diablo i3

 

[Sillygoose]

why not just stick with the diablo to tune the cam? sure it might not be the best option out there but...

 

[crazykid1994]

why not just stick with the diablo to tune the cam? sure it might not be the best option out there but...

If I go with a cam from frp I would prefer for him to tune the truck and he only uses hp tuners otherwise I would keep the Diablo tuner.

 

[shortman]

I just installed this cam on my 18 2500 6.4 because I had a lifter failure. Hellcat lifters and oil pump. Cam feels good but no idea what it added power wise. 70-75psi oil pressure now up from 50ish. Smoothest it’s ever ran since I bought it. Specs on the cam are as follows. Anyone know the OEM truck cam specs? I was curious how Comp achieved an improvement on a stock PCM. I am running a Hemifever 93 tune currently.

Bringing this back to the top.... It appears no one ever answered your question and I also wanted to know....

I copied this from another thread....

OEM part# 05045517AC for 6.4 truck Hemi

215/221 @ .050"
.353"/.333" lobe lift
.574"/.541" valve lift
121 LSA
108 ICL

 

[Black1500Ram]

I really don't get this desire to avoid a tune. Anything worth doing is going to require a tune. Anything else is just

Purely $ IMO

If you’re gaining any HP / TQ “while you’re in there” doing say a cam swap, plus getting rid of the OEM known bad metallurgy cam… and you don’t need to spend the extra $1k for a tune… why wouldn’t you?

 

[Black1500Ram]

I think that's an excellent offering. In fact I might go that route first because of a few reasons

Don't have to pull the heads
Don't have to change valve springs.
Don't need the top end rebuild kit.

Then when I'm ready for that stroker kit I can do all the above later along with another cam to fit the stroker motor profile.

Don’t have to pull heads for a cam swap???
How so?

 

[shortman]

Don’t have to pull heads for a cam swap???
How so?

You back off the tension on all the lifters then rotate the cam and it pushes the lifters up so the cam can be pulled out... Look it up on youtube.... There are several videos of guys doing it...

With that said.... I'm in the camp of why would you swap the cam and not replace the lifters. I guess I could see it if the engine only had a few thousand miles on it but after, say 10K miles there is no way I would do it....

 

[Black1500Ram]

You back off the tension on all the lifters then rotate the cam and it pushes the lifters up so the cam can be pulled out... Look it up on youtube.... There are several videos of guys doing it...

With that said.... I'm in the camp of why would you swap the cam and not replace the lifters. I guess I could see it if the engine only had a few thousand miles on it but after, say 10K miles there is no way I would do it....

Interesting… knowing my luck a lifter would drop.

 

[Wild one]

Interesting… knowing my luck a lifter would drop.

Alot of guys stick a small magnet on the side of the lifter body to help prevent the lifters from dropping. You can buy small Neo magnets that work great ,but i'm also of the camp,that it's not worth reusing stock lifters unless they're virtually brand new.

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[MegaHertz]

I'm taking a hard look at the MMX No tune cam as well. Running an OTS Diablo pcm/tcm tune now, and probably will do a custom Hemifever tune in the future after shorty headers, 6.4 manifold/CAI and cam all go in (first two already ordered).

But, I like the peace of mind that I can run all those mods without a tune if need be, or even just a canned tune. I can just "drop-in" the upgrades and not have to worry if the truck will start or run without CELs (assuming installed correctly); or that I couldn't take it to the mechanic down the street anytime if needed.

I'm not looking for choppy idle or tire shredding gains, just OEM+ (ok, maybe ++). Still debating whether to do MDS delete or not, as then I would be tied to some sort of tune all the time at least to disable that system.

 

[Wild one]

I'm taking a hard look at the MMX No tune cam as well. Running an OTS Diablo pcm/tcm tune now, and probably will do a custom Hemifever tune in the future after shorty headers, 6.4 manifold/CAI and cam all go in (first two already ordered).

But, I like the peace of mind that I can run all those mods without a tune if need be, or even just a canned tune. I can just "drop-in" the upgrades and not have to worry if the truck will start or run without CELs (assuming installed correctly); or that I couldn't take it to the mechanic down the street anytime if needed.

I'm not looking for choppy idle or tire shredding gains, just OEM+ (ok, maybe ++). Still debating whether to do MDS delete or not, as then I would be tied to some sort of tune all the time at least to disable that system.

If you're doing cam/shorties/6.4 intake/CAI,you're going to have to tune it,to get everything to work together,so you might as well replace the mds solenoids with the Mopar plugs,and run the non-mds cam.

 

[MegaHertz]

If you're doing cam/shorties/6.4 intake/CAI,you're going to have to tune it,to get everything to work together,so you might as well replace the mds solenoids with the Mopar plugs,and run the non-mds cam.

Well, ok.