My Jay Greene Cam job is.. uggh, done

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Exactly lol ... one reason I am in no hurry to get one for my truck lol ....

Can't trust anyone anymore,
Most guys who swear by their email tuner,have nothing to compare his tune to,so they're assuming they got a tune specific to their truck,which is about as far from the truth as you can get.Unless that tuner is sitting in your pass seat with a laptop on his or hers lap,you're just getting a generic tune.
 

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I was lucky many years ago after I contacted a well know vendor on this site to buy some performance parts. I learned to trust him, also saw the success he had at the track and I also went to his place of business and saw his operation. I asked him for a couple of recommendations for people he trusted to do work on Ram trucks and the recommendations worked out above my expectations(this was before he started to work on our truck and install what he sold). I also asked him who he used for his tuning and he recommended an e-mail tuner. I talked to the tuner on the phone, got a good impression of him and hired him to do my tuning. About 8-9 years later I still have the same tuner and am extremely happy with the results. A few years ago he was at the Baytown track and he did, in fact, sit in my truck and check out the tune and he told me that everything was OK. I guess the moral of this long story is to find someone you trust, then based on your relationship and the reputation of the vendor give them a try. There is nothing foolproof, we all can be fooled or things can go sideways but I guess that's true in all the business relationships we enter into. On many occasions, I have been accused of being a "fanboy" because I recommend vendors that I have personally had very good luck with. I try to give credit where credit is due and I'll be the first to yell foul if things go sideways.
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Most guys who swear by their email tuner,have nothing to compare his tune to,so they're assuming they got a tune specific to their truck,which is about as far from the truth as you can get.Unless that tuner is sitting in your pass seat with a laptop on his or hers lap,you're just getting a generic tune.
The Master Tech we had at Big O Tires knew what he was doing and tuned Rams every single day, he had a 2004 HEMI and he showed me how to tune the shift points on HEMIs back then.. nothing to complicated really ...

The fuel economy tuning is a bit more complicated and I think that is where they are all just copying each others tunes and just making a few changes up and down not understanding the effects it has on the sensor banks .... they don't understand the meaning of running to rich thus causing the hard shifts when letting of the gas ... they don't level things out and spend time on anything themselves like you said not being there inside the truck with their laptops and actually making runs themselves ...

So many things are going to affect the 02 sensor and air flows and the STOICH .... I have seen some tables with the STOICH set as high as 20 and as low as 3 ...WTF !!! ...14.7 is perfect AFR for these trucks from my understanding lol ...

Anyways ... I want to get into tuning myself but don't feel like spending the money right now on software and an unlocked PCM just to mess around with it ... I don't have the time to do so and if I start messing with it I will start tweeking on it like a methhead lol ...

But as soon as my trucks warranty is done I am going to start messing with this truck more ... I knew how to tune Hondas and Acuras but that was years and years ago ... these HEMIs are similar but still different having the 8 speed tranies ....

But yes, these guys are selling canned tunes and copycats off each other and calling them their own, just like in the detail industry where white labeling is becoming the thing right now, everyone is finding a blending company to make a few changes on detail products that are already proven and all they do is change the color and or smell and slap a white label on them and call it their own product lol .... same thing with these tuners ...
 

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Most guys who swear by their email tuner,have nothing to compare his tune to,so they're assuming they got a tune specific to their truck,which is about as far from the truth as you can get.Unless that tuner is sitting in your pass seat with a laptop on his or hers lap,you're just getting a generic tune.

Some guys think diablo Canned tunes are good. :dogpile: and swear the CAI they spent 500$ on actually does something.

At least with HP Tuner you can compare the tunes after revision.

I just got the daughter a chevy sonic. Lucky for me that ECU isnt locked and tons of free tunes on the HP Tuner website... This should be fun... lol...
 

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I was lucky many years ago after I contacted a well know vendor on this site to buy some performance parts. I learned to trust him, also saw the success he had at the track and I also went to his place of business and saw his operation. I asked him for a couple of recommendations for people he trusted to do work on Ram trucks and the recommendations worked out above my expectations(this was before he started to work on our truck and install what he sold). I also asked him who he used for his tuning and he recommended an e-mail tuner. I talked to the tuner on the phone, got a good impression of him and hired him to do my tuning. About 8-9 years later I still have the same tuner and am extremely happy with the results. A few years ago he was at the Baytown track and he did, in fact, sit in my truck and check out the tune and he told me that everything was OK. I guess the moral of this long story is to find someone you trust, then based on your relationship and the reputation of the vendor give them a try. There is nothing foolproof, we all can be fooled or things can go sideways but I guess that's true in all the business relationships we enter into. On many occasions, I have been accused of being a "fanboy" because I recommend vendors that I have personally had very good luck with. I try to give credit where credit is due and I'll be the first to yell foul if things go sideways.
Jay
PULLYA: Glad to see you on the thread. Hope all is well in the "PULLYA" Universe.

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Some guys think diablo Canned tunes are good. :dogpile: and swear the CAI they spent 500$ on actually does something.

At least with HP Tuner you can compare the tunes after revision.
In some instances the canned tune is actually as good or better,lol. Years ago i got talked into trying out one of the big name email tuners. He sent me a tune,and on back to back passes at the track the canned 93 Diablo was a full tenth quicker then his custom email tune. The guy who talked me into it swore by the guys tuning and couldn't believe the email tune was slower,so we switched his truck back to a canned 93 Diablo tune,and his truck also picked up a tenth.Several years and mods later i gave him another shot at my truck,7 revisions later,he wasn't even close to my local tuner,my truck was a full 1/2 second slower with his email tune,compared to my local tuners tune. This email tuner still has a loyal fanboy following,but unless you're a big name,you're only getting a generic tune from him.
 
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Is that a canned tune or canned tuna? LOL... :anitoof::33:

(My RAM has a canned tune, straight from factory. Get in, push button, Vroom, and away we go. (Jackie Gleason ref there).

 
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In some instances the canned tune is actually as good or better,lol. Years ago i got talked into trying out one of the big name email tuners. He sent me a tune,and on back to back passes at the track the canned 93 Diablo was a full tenth quicker then his custom email tune. The guy who talked me into it swore by the guys tuning and couldn't believe the email tune was slower,so we switched his truck back to a canned 93 Diablo tune,and his truck also picked up a tenth.Several years and mods later i gave him another shot at my truck,7 revisions later,he wasn't even close to my local tuner,my truck was a full 1/2 second slower with his email tune,compared to my local tuners tune. This email tuner still has a loyal fanboy following,but unless you're a big name,you're only getting a generic tune from him.
Ah yeah, the good ole' favoritism .... but very true ... I tried contacting Jay Green one time and he never answered me back, had a guy from work hit him up who is pretty damn popular on instagram and he got a response within 30 minutes lol ... I was like wtf! He had already been doing business with him for his srt charger lol ... I was so pissed off ahaha
 

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If you're burnt out, quit. Hate your job, quit. Lost your vision, find another. I get sick of hearing the same old story line about some piece of s h i z i t that's "burnt out" (boo f&^%ing hoo) who treats people...paying customers...like crap. They're burnt out...But have no other job skills except frying burgers at McDonalds....So this gives them reason to crap all over people who only expect a fair product/service for their hard earned money? Lots of these clowns out there....may they all go bankrupt and let those who truly enjoy what they do, do well.
 
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If you're burnt out, quit. Hate your job, quit. Lost your vision, find another. I get sick of hearing the same old story line about some piece of s h i z i t that's "burnt out" (boo f&^%ing hoo) who treats people...paying customers...like crap. They're burnt out...But have no other job skills except frying burgers at McDonalds....So this gives them reason to crap all over people who only expect a fair product/service for their hard earned money? Lots of these clowns out there....may they all go bankrupt and let those who truly enjoy what they do, do well.
That's what I am saying .... but Karma is a bizatch .... what goes around comes around ...
 
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