New Buyer Ram Engine Preference Survey: Hemi vs. 6 Cyl. Turbo

If you might consider buying a new Ram pickup in the next 3-5 years, would you prefer:

  • Hemi V8 motor

    Votes: 45 78.9%
  • Turbo 6 cyl motor

    Votes: 10 17.5%
  • Standard 6 cyl motor

    Votes: 2 3.5%

  • Total voters
    57

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HEMIMANN

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Modern V8. Hemi is a 1950's motor specifically designed for >5,000 rpm breathing in NASCAR race cars.

6.0L, 4 valve head, port injected or if have to use GDI, then do it right with dual injectors per cylinder

And for god's sake no MDS/AFM/DFM or whatever stupid marketing acronym the MBA failures dream up.

Either that or a Wankel.
 
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Not kidding about emailing our poll to Kuniskis if we can get enough votes. It seems almost certain that Stellantis forcing the Hurricane on new buyers has killed their sales, and by now they know it. (yes, price is a big factor too)

We already know that if they do bring the Hemi back it will be with mods, and maybe they can make etorque optional.

A few years back I had 3-4 email addresses for FCA top brass, so I'm pretty sure we can get this to them. Just need more votes!
 

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Not kidding about emailing our poll to Kuniskis if we can get enough votes. It seems almost certain that Stellantis forcing the Hurricane on new buyers has killed their sales, and by now they know it. (yes, price is a big factor too)

We already know that if they do bring the Hemi back it will be with mods, and maybe they can make etorque optional.

A few years back I had 3-4 email addresses for FCA top brass, so I'm pretty sure we can get this to them. Just need more votes!

Then add a new V8 engine vote choice like Chevy and Ford did years ago already.
 

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The Hurricane is too new and too complicated, and being Fiat designed doesn't exactly inspire confidence. The recent Eco-Diesel fiasco is yet another reason to be suspicious of European designed engines.

Stellantis has certainly "bet the farm" on Hurricane, so I hope they get the bugs worked out and it becomes a reliable and durable design. Until then I'll stick with more proven options.

Top of my list right now is a 2500 with the 6.4. Second is an F-150 with the Coyote. Third is a Silverado with GM's turbo four. Yes it sounds silly, but I've got experience with GM four cylinders from my tuner car days. GM learned about turbo fours from Saab in the 90's & 00's. They know what they are doing. Plus GM has put a 100k mile warranty on the turbo engine, they intend to stand by it.

I wish Ram would put a 100k mile warranty on Hurricane. I believe that would ease the nerves of many people who, like myself, are hesitant. If they've made a good engine that can last they have little to worry about.
 
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Ok so far we have 77% saying the would prefer a 5.7 hemi over a 6 cyl turbo or a standard 6 cyl. Maybe this will change with more votes.

Meanwhile it's hard to know how closely that mirrors the sentiment of potential Ram buyers nationally, but if it's in the ballpark, it suggests at least one major reason the Ram brand is in so much trouble.

Poster NCRaineman seems to sum it up well when he said, "Ram bet the farm on Hurricane." Doing that in the face of anything like 70% of customers not wanting one (or even 50%), sounds extremely damaging to the brand.

Surely Mr Kuniskis knows the real buyer opposition to the Hurricane by now, and if it's anywhere near 50%, it seems almost certain they are already planning to bring the hemi back, or another V8.

If we can get a few hundred votes I'll get the results to him including suggestions for hemi or other V8 mods, even if I have to send them by courier!
 

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To be fair- I cast my vote for the 6.4 hemi not the 5.7...
Had I been able to check a box and get a 6.4 in a 1500 I never would have bothered getting a 3/4 ton truck...
I'm definitely not a Chevy guy but I am jealous that they can get a 1/2 ton Trailboss with a 6.2L...
( And their built in step bumper corners too)
 

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I chose the Hurricane over the Hemi because I just assumed it was the Eagle version 5.7 without any upgrades and that’s why I switched to another brand years ago. Make the SRT 6.4 an option and Im all in. The Coyote is a cool engine but it has cylinder deactivation as well and you can only turn it off with a tune. I have a mildly tuned eco-boost in my F150 right now and I like it much better than the Coyote.
 

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The hemi needs a few updates like overhead cams / direct injection to be a viable engine now in my opinion.A cam in block pushrod engine is yesterdays engine.The hemi was designed back in the 90's and nobody runs a 30 year old engine design anymore.Technology has out paced the hemi now,and it's not even an actual hemi,that's a marketing ploy they used to sell the engine back in the early 2,000's
 
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A cam in block pushrod engine is yesterdays engine.

It is, but if I was going heavy duty then I'd still prefer an old skool pushrod like Fords "new" 7.3 in the F2/350 Such a simple, reliable design. Well if they could harden the cams a little better but that's not the fault of the design. And that thing can put down serious power, it's probably capable of 550+ hp even in a heavy duty cycle truck like that, but they already overpower the ram and gm gas options so why bother lol.
 

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It is, but if I was going heavy duty then I'd still prefer an old skool pushrod like Fords "new" 7.3 in the F2/350 Such a simple, reliable design. Well if they could harden the cams a little better but that's not the fault of the design. And that thing can put down serious power, it's probably capable of 550+ hp even in a heavy duty cycle truck like that, but they already overpower the ram and gm gas options so why bother lol.
To keep a cam in block engine,the 6.4 would need a serious overhaul to still be a viable engine,they'd have to up it to about 426 cubes to compete with Fords 7.3 monster,there's no way they're going be able to compete against a 7.3 with only 392 cubes/
The first thing they should do is relocate the VVT tunnel to above the cam,2nd would be to go to direct injection,and 3rd would be to redesign the heads to have a better quence area to utlilize the direct injection to it's full potential,and i don't think Stellentis has the brains to pull it off with-out f l u c k i n g it up by letting the bean counters be the final say in the design
 

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To keep a cam in block engine,the 6.4 would need a serious overhaul to still be a viable engine,they'd have to up it to about 426 cubes to compete with Fords 7.3 monster,there's no way they're going be able to compete against a 7.3 with only 392 cubes

Agreed, I think the hemi has run its course, but I wouldn't be opposed to a simple pushrod replacement if they can make it work with pollution requirements while giving more power. But the 5.0 coyote definitely shows how much power you can make these days with more modern tech. I just don't think it's more reliable long term.
 

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I'm old enough to remember when the 400 and 440 went by the wayside. I loved them, in fact I still have a 24000 miles 1978 New Yorker. Times changed. Those old V8s were great long lasting engines but were old technology. Just like the 5.7 Hemi, which I still own in my 23 Jeep GC Summit Reserve. Great engine but old technology. I have put almost 9K Kms on my SST HO and have zero desire to purchase another Hemi. I've owned 13 vehiles with 5.7 or 6'4s. Give me the SST HO.
 

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To keep a cam in block engine,the 6.4 would need a serious overhaul to still be a viable engine,they'd have to up it to about 426 cubes to compete with Fords 7.3 monster,there's no way they're going be able to compete against a 7.3 with only 392 cubes/
The first thing they should do is relocate the VVT tunnel to above the cam,2nd would be to go to direct injection,and 3rd would be to redesign the heads to have a better quence area to utlilize the direct injection to it's full potential,and i don't think Stellentis has the brains to pull it off with-out f l u c k i n g it up by letting the bean counters be the final say in the design

Stellantis doesn't, but Tim does.

Write to him! I mean, why the hell not?
 
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