New Buyer Ram Engine Preference Survey: Hemi vs. 6 Cyl. Turbo

[Wild one]

Stellantis doesn't, but Tim does.

Write to him! I mean, why the hell not?

He still doesn't have the power to over rule the bean counters,they usually have final say in things,no matter who's in charge at the top.The board of directors would be the ones you'd need on board backing the changes and improvements

 

[HEMIMANN]

He still doesn't have the power to over rule the bean counters,they usually have final say in things,no matter who's in charge at the top.The board of directors would be the ones you'd need on board backing the changes and improvements

I thought after the Tavares debacle they gave Tim carte blanche? I mean, Chrysler USA is near dead right now.

 

[Wild one]

I thought after the Tavares debacle they gave Tim carte blanche? I mean, Chrysler USA is near dead right now.

I think he can bring back the hemi / hellcats etc,with no issues,but i don't think they gave him the power to over rule the bean counter department,as from what i know,they still have the final say in the costs of producing a vehicle.
Tim was in charge when Hoover spec'd a billet cam for the redesigned block in 09 and that still never came to fruitition,and i'm guessing Tim knew what Hoover knew,and there'd be cam issues with the cam that the bean counters spec'd.
They still don't have a billet cam in the parts bin for the 5.7 or 6.4,and this is 15 years after the fact

 

[Fatbob Frank]

While you're at it send him this link...

If they ever built something like this,they'd sell every one they could build

www.ramforum.com

 

[etbrown4]

Ok we're up to 48 votes and holding steady at about 75% preferring a V8.
Personally I think we need a few hundred votes before Tim or others might take note. We'll see how long this survey remains active.

Small sample it may be, but the V8 hemi sure seems to have powerfully strong support over the Hurricane. If Ram is smart enough to come out with a new V8 with mods, it seems that would likely have even greater support.

 

[Mojo88]

.....Small sample it may be, but the V8 hemi sure seems to have powerfully strong support over the Hurricane. If Ram is smart enough to come out with a new V8 with mods, it seems that would likely have even greater support.

I would love the Hemi (a big one, haha), but without any gimmicks.... i.e., no eTorque, no oiling issues, no cam/lifter issues (maybe DOHC), no MDS or any other trouble-prone cyl deactivation.

 

[Burla]

Who are the wise crackers who voted for the turbo? You know what is about to happen you super genius's, it wont be but 5 years and they all will have particulate filters hanging on them, just like every turbo in euro. Still prefer the turbo? Tell the truth.

 

[Burla]

You been lied to, the new engine is way dirtier then the hemi, nobody ever suggested the need for GPF on a hemi, not needed at all.

Yes, gasoline-powered cars in Europe, particularly those with direct injection engines, commonly use particulate filters called "Gasoline Particulate Filters" (GPFs) to capture fine particles from the exhaust, even on turbocharged models, as European emission standards require significant reduction in particulate matter from all gasoline vehicles; making GPFs a standard feature on most new cars in the region.

 

[HEMIMANN]

It ain't the turbo - it's the direct injector used for rich burn mode instead of an intake port injector.

 

[Burla]

It ain't the turbo - it's the direct injector used for rich burn mode instead of an intake port injector.

the poll is for turbo?

 

[2023RAM1500ds]

I will forward the results directly to Tim Kuniskis CEO of Ram, or other execs, if anyone can pm their email.

LoL i know im old school
but there's no replacement for displacement...
Sure you can get more power from a turbocharged smaller engine but you're asking the engine to WORK harder than it naturally should...
V8 , v10s... yes remember when ram used to have v10s?
GO big or go home...lol
Want a logical demonstration,
imagine putting a brick on a smooth surface on top of 6 pencils, and trying pushing on one end of the brick across the surface...
Now put the same brick on 20 pencils and pushing on one end of the brick...
The brick with the 20 pencils will move smoother and will have resistance.

Bring back the V8s.

 

[HEMIMANN]

the poll is for turbo?

 

[Burla]

BTW, they are already starting putting particulate filters on pickups in America 2024 for 2025 and FORD is the first taker with their maverick for this year. This gift is free for the turbo lovers, 4:14 mark. How long before this is hanging on a ram?

2025 Ford Maverick 2L Turbo Has GASOLINE PARTICULATE FILTERS | F-150s NEXT??

I review the New 2025 Ford Maverick with the arrival of Gasoline Particulate filters being it is the first gas truck in north america to receive these new em...

youtu.be

 

[ramffml]

Ok we're up to 48 votes and holding steady at about 75% preferring a V8.
Personally I think we need a few hundred votes before Tim or others might take note. We'll see how long this survey remains active.

That's not what your poll says. Your poll says "hemi", and I didn't vote because of this. I want a v8, not necessarily the 20 year old hemi.

 

[etbrown4]

It appears its possible to change your vote. Though not stated in the poll, it is clear from the poll and the comments that almost 80% of respondents prefer some type of V8 over the Hurricane. That's big, but mostly tells us owners what we already knew.

If Stellantis is listening and will come out quickly with a V8, it seems that they could do a hemi pretty soon. While other V8s might be preferred, that might take longer.

For the survival of Ram, it seems they need to act now, if V8 plans aren't already underway.

 

[White six four]

I voted for the hemi even though I don't for the foreseeable future ever plan on buying a truck newer then the 16 I have. I don't care if I keep up with the Jones's and I actually want to be able to work on my vehicles. Way too much electronic crap on all of these newer vehicles.

But I do wish everyone who wants to get a new v8 or hemi in their Ram trucks gets to be able too!

 

[Docwagon1776]

It appears its possible to change your vote. Though not stated in the poll, it is clear from the poll and the comments that almost 80% of respondents prefer some type of V8 over the Hurricane. That's big, but mostly tells us owners what we already knew.

If Stellantis is listening and will come out quickly with a V8, it seems that they could do a hemi pretty soon. While other V8s might be preferred, that might take longer.

For the survival of Ram, it seems they need to act now, if V8 plans aren't already underway.

I bet even if you took out fleet sales, 80% of 1/2 ton buyers didn't buy the v8 when it was an option vs the V6. Ram doesn't release take rate data publicly, but Ford sells about 4 ecoboost trucks for every Coyote equipped truck.

I guarantee you Ram already does focus groups that are selected by demographics, income level, time from last truck purchase, etc. I agree they need a V8, even if it's a lower take rate than the I6, because the market wants options. What they need first is lower entry level prices. Randoms clicking a button online isn't data. I get what you're trying to do, but it's not going to sway anyone at Stellantis over their own internal data.

 

[DanAR]

Maybe DEI took over the one that gave thumbs up on the turbo-six.

 

[Dodge 1500 4X4]

The first thing they should do is relocate the VVT tunnel to above the cam,2nd would be to go to direct injection,and 3rd would be to redesign the heads to have a better quence area to utlilize the direct injection to it's full potential

Agreed, that would take care of the lubrication of the cam and lifters, I would like to see direct injection W Port injection for any carbon deposits on intake valves, also it would be advantageous to install a catch can, hay how about a factory installed one!!!

 

[Wild one]

Agreed, that would take care of the lubrication of the cam and lifters, I would like to see direct injection W Port injection for any carbon deposits on intake valves, also it would be advantageous to install a catch can, hay how about a factory installed one!!!

They could easily adapt the hellcat valve covers,then they'd have an air/oil seperator,but a legit catch can is probably out,as the average owner is pretty lax on maintence,and would probably never dump in a timely manner.I'm not a huge fan of the hellcats air/oil seperator set-up that puts all the oily crud from the pcv system back into the oil pan,but it's definitely better then nothing