Oil Filter Thread

[Burla]

the 10-48 clone not recommended for ram. When you have a choice between a smaller restrictive filter that is OEM recommended or a larger less restrictive filter that was recommended on rams in the same generation just not on 2012+ rams on a engine that is known for problems lubrication it's lifters, which one would you chose? Many guys here run the 10-48 good luck with that most likely it will work out.

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[CanuckRam1313]

From Royal Purple, OEM size = RP 10-48, large size = RP 20-820
From Fram Ultra, OEM size = XG10060, large size = XG2
From Fram Endurance, OEM size = FE10060. Don't know about large size, maybe FE2?

The RP 10-48 not recommended anymore I don't think.

I'm running the large size without issues. But I also have a relocation kit

The 20-820 will work on most HEMI's in the stock filter base location, is my understanding.

However, there is a loom right beside the filter base area that requires one to gently fenagle it to persuade it to allow the larger 20-820 filter to be used without issue (at least on my 19' and now 23' this was the case).

One doesn't want to force this loom and/or mistakenly pinch it between the oil filter and the filter base.

 

[corneileous]

the 10-48 clone not recommended for ram. When you have a choice between a smaller restrictive filter that is OEM recommended or a larger less restrictive filter that was recommended on rams in the same generation just not on 2012+ rams on a engine that is known for problems lubrication it's lifters, which one would you chose? Many guys here run the 10-48 good luck with that most likely it will work out.

This has been covered, for further replies read those through search.

Yeah, I knew that Amsoil filter you’re talking about was no longer recommended by Amsoil but I had no idea the royal purple 10–48 was even a clone of that filter nor I did I know it was not recommended. I’m not on these two threads every day like most of y’all are… Lol.

And I would love to run the other filter but because of my lifetime warranty, I’m not gonna take a chance with it and no, I’m not just gonna have the dealer do my oil changes and put whatever the heck they want to in there either.

I’ve already stated long time ago that even though I’ve got this lifetime warranty, I’m still gonna treat the truck like it doesn’t have warranty coverage the best I can in hopes of keeping my truck out of the shop even though whatever happens if it does happen, I’ll be covered by warranty and from what I’ve read, 5W-30 engine oil isn’t always the saving grace to keep you from having the lifter tick unless these people I’ve have talked to are lying to me.

But what about the OE replacement Wix XP or even the OE replacement Fram extra guard or whatever it is, the XG10060? Other than their smaller size, are they just as bad as the royal purple 10–48 and that Amsoil oil filter you were talking about earlier?

 

[HEMIMANN]

Pressure setting is across the filter element, not the engine.

Us - this forum.

 

[corneileous]

The 20-820 will work on most HEMI's in the stock filter base location, is my understanding.

However, there is a loom right beside the filter base area that requires one to gently fenagle it to persuade it to allow the larger 20-820 filter to be used without issue (at least on my 19' and now 23' this was the case).

One doesn't want to force this loom and/or mistakenly pinch it between the oil filter and the filter base.

So for other people who may be asking the same question, can that loom be relocated so that it’s not in the way?

 

[CanuckRam1313]

So for other people who may be asking the same question, can that loom be relocated so that it’s not in the way?

That's a good question, and I'm uncertain of the answer.

However, once the loom is massaged once, it molds itself, per se, and it hasn't presented itself as an obstacle since (at least on my trucks).

I've used the 20-820 for many years and many miles with lots of OCI's in between, and it's never been an issue.

 

[corneileous]

Pressure setting is across the filter element, not the engine.

I was wondering what that meant.

Us - this forum.

What do you mean? If you’re referring to what I’m thinking you’re referring to, I wasn’t talking about you guys. I was talking about what I’ve heard elsewhere from here from people that used 5W 30 engine oil and still wound up with the lifter tick but being that a lot of times some of them guys are tightlipped on certain things, I don’t know what 5W-30 engine oil they were using and I don’t even know what filter they were using or how many miles their interval was.

 

[corneileous]

That's a good question, and I'm uncertain of the answer.

However, once the loom is massaged once, it molds itself, per se, and it hasn't presented itself as an obstacle since (at least on my trucks).

Yeah, I could see that making sense. The heat from the oil filter reforming that plastic in away to remold it.

I've used the 20-820 for many years and many miles with lots of OCI's in between, and it's never been an issue.

I wouldn’t think you would have an issue with that filter because like I said before, it’s practically the same oil filter aside from size and from what I understand, the reason why they went to a smaller oil filter for the 5.7 in the fourth gen trucks was plain and simply because of where they decided to put that wire loom you and I are talking about that instead of doing something else with it and continuing to use the same oil filter that the third GEN hemis called for, they just said screw it and decided to go with a smaller oil filter.

 

[ramffml]

The 20-820 will work on most HEMI's in the stock filter base location, is my understanding.

However, there is a loom right beside the filter base area that requires one to gently fenagle it to persuade it to allow the larger 20-820 filter to be used without issue (at least on my 19' and now 23' this was the case).

One doesn't want to force this loom and/or mistakenly pinch it between the oil filter and the filter base.

The large RP/Fram's worked on mine without any finangling... but it was just a pain in the butt and I always got oil everywhere. Relocation kit solved both problems.

 

[CanuckRam1313]

The large RP/Fram's worked on mine without any finangling... but it was just a pain in the butt and I always got oil everywhere. Relocation kit solved both problems.

Truer words never spoken, Brother!
The gd oil spill over is ridiculous to say the least!
Half a can of cleaner spray, at least, to deal with the bs!

 

[JHoward]

Yeah, I ever since I’ve been driving my 4th Gen, I knew they went to a smaller filter for the same engine because the one my 2008 I had before took was a lot fatter filter which means the royal purple OE replacement for that truck would’ve been this 20–820. The Fram ultra XG2 and the Wix XP 57899XP would be both their OE replacements.

I guess I wouldn’t be surprised if it was to save cost but I thought I read somewhere else before that the reason why they went with a smaller oil filter was because of whatever those two hardlines are that they routed extremely close to the oil filter location making the filter the third GEN 5.7 called for, too big to fit there. Ain’t that some crap, huh? Instead of routing those lines somewhere else, they just said aw heck with it, let’s just go with a smaller filter….lol.

I wish I could run the larger filter but since most of y’all already know the case with me, I’ve got that lifetime warranty and I think they are pretty big about sticking to what the manufacturer’s “recommendations” are. If they weren’t, I’d be running 5W30….lol.

I mean, I don’t know what the big deal is with filters because when you look at the Wix XP filter for the old third GEN hemi and the Wix XP for the 4th Gen hemi, they’re pretty much the same except for overall size of the filter. The only main difference other than size is that the 3rd gen Hemi filter has a bypass relief valve setting of 16, a burst pressure of 275 psi and a flow rating of 9–11 GPM.

The bypass relief valve setting on the fourth GEN Wix XP is 12, burst pressure is 350 psi and the flow rate is 10–12 GPM. Not sure what the micron rating of the filter media is on either filter.

The reason for the "smaller" oil filter (MOPAR MO339 oil filter) is, because the (~2013 to the end of the 4th Gen RAM) has the oil heat exchanger that reduced the fitment size of the the "larger" MO899 oil filter, however, the "larger oil filter(s)" will still fit.

I used the " larger oil filters" on my 2017 5.7 HEMI RAM with no major issues.

 

[JHoward]

I don't own my 2017 RAM 5.7 Liter HEMI RCSB anymore.

FWIW, I'm now riding in an 2023 Dodge Challenger with the 5.7 Liter HEMI and the "larger" oil filter(MO899), and most likely the "other large oil filter brands" will fit perfectly ... no oil heat exchanger ... just getting under the damn car is a "challenge"...

 

[Wild one]

I don't own my 2017 RAM 5.7 Liter HEMI RCSB anymore.

FWIW, I'm now riding in an 2023 Dodge Challenger with the 5.7 Liter HEMI and the "larger" oil filter(MO899), and most likely the "other large oil filter brands" will fit perfectly ... no oil heat exchanger ... just getting under the damn car is a "challenge"...

This are great for getting under a Challenger J
Hey we still need pic's of the new toy

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[JHoward]

This are great for getting under a Challenger J
Hey we still need pic's of the new toy

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Absolutely!

Thanks for the reference on the race ramps ...

I'll get around to posting a pic in my avatar ...

 

[JHoward]

... I cleaned up the engine bay, a little, not that it was needed ... just something I did out of ... boredum.

 

[Wild one]

Absolutely!

Thanks for the reference on the race ramps ...

I'll get around to posting a pic in my avatar ...

these are a bit cheaper,but still gold plated,lol.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HPM1D92

 

[2023RAM1500ds]

The WORLDS BEST OIL FILTER Royal Purple
Along with Redline 5w30 the WORLDS BEST OIL .
Sure will protect your motor for years of service.

i agree i go with Royal purple !!

 

[Wild one]

i agree i go with Royal purple !!

Hopefully just their filters,their oil isn't the greatest oil in regards to the Hemi

 

[corneileous]

Hopefully just their filters,their oil isn't the greatest oil in regards to the Hemi

I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure he’s just referring to the filters and not the oil.

 

[Wild one]

I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure he’s just referring to the filters and not the oil.

He doesn't specify ,so until he replies we don't know for sure if he's running both their filters and oil or not.I'm sure he'll pop in shortly and tell us
@2023RAM1500ds clue us in