Oil Filter Thread

[Rustypipes12]

At least for 6.4 Hemi they do

Part# P550794

 

[huntergreen]

At one point they did. They have been mann hummell for years but switched to highline warren. Highline is making them to the same specs as mann hummell but id bet build quality is better

According to bitog folks, the Mobil one filers made in viet nam are great quality. The actual filtering specs are a bit lacking. 30 microns at ? Percent.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Part# P550794

We were discussing synthetic filtration media filters. That is not synthetic media. They won't specifically state the media - by the efficiency stated, it is paper. When you screen results by synthetic media, there is no will-fit Donaldson filter.

 

[Rustypipes12]

One thing that would be nice is a requirement to state whether their micron rating is absolute or nominal. (nominal is only 50%,even absolute is less than 90%). That's according to one of the Engineers from Donaldson.

 

[Travis8352]

According to bitog folks, the Mobil one filers made in viet nam are great quality. The actual filtering specs are a bit lacking. 30 microns at ? Percent.

Yes by highline warren. Better quality built to the same effeciency standards as the mann hummel version which is 99% at 30 microns. ZeeOsix on bitog is probably the best source for all filter info IMO

 

[Rustypipes12]

I wish the ppe740 fit the 5.7 ram but its a bit to long. It might fit my durango but width is the concern with the durango

I just ordered a 760 for my 6.4. once I get my wear metals where I want them I may try this filter with Amsoil. I currently have a ****load of Champ XL filters and Pennzoil while I'm under warranty so I'm changing every 2k until I hit 10k then I'll stretch it out to 3 or 4k depending on wear metals. I live up north and do some towing and hauling.

 

[Rustypipes12]

We were discussing synthetic filtration media filters. That is not synthetic media. They won't specifically state the media - by the efficiency stated, it is paper. When you screen results by synthetic media, there is no will-fit Donaldson filter.

2017 Ram 2500 6.4L 4x4
I stand corrected the media on that particular filter is cellulose. 17micron nominal , 40 micron absolute. It's the Blue filters that use a proprietary synthetic.

 

[Travis8352]

I just ordered a 760 for my 6.4. once I get my wear metals where I want them I may try this filter with Amsoil. I currently have a ****load of Champ XL filters and Pennzoil while I'm under warranty so I'm changing every 2k until I hit 10k then I'll stretch it out to 3 or 4k depending on wear metals. I live up north and do some towing and hauling.

Sweet! I think the 760 will fit these trucks better but i like the media of the 740. regardless efficiency is wildly good for both and i believe they are PGI filters. They claim down to 5 or 10 microns but id love to know the percentage

 

[Travis8352]

We were discussing synthetic filtration media filters. That is not synthetic media. They won't specifically state the media - by the efficiency stated, it is paper. When you screen results by synthetic media, there is no will-fit Donaldson filter.

2017 Ram 2500 6.4L 4x4
I stand corrected the media on that particular filter is cellulose. 17micron nominal , 40 micron absolute. It's the Blue filters that use a proprietary synthetic.

I tried asking the donaldson guys im lake speeds livestream he did with them to build a donaldson blue for our trucks but they never read my questions lol

 

[Rustypipes12]

Sweet! I think the 760 will fit these trucks better but i like the media of the 740. regardless efficiency is wildly good for both and i believe they are PGI filters. They claim down to 5 or 10 microns but id love to know the percentage

Yeah, and I don't know if it really does anything but it has a magnet inside too! If nothing else, you can open it up after changing oil like a cracker jack box.

 

[Rustypipes12]

I tried asking the donaldson guys im lake speeds livestream he did with them to build a donaldson blue for our trucks but they never read my questions lol

Maybe if we all write to them , they'll pay attention.

 

[Yardbird]

I'm tired of stressing about oil filters, then making a decision, only to find out after one or two uses, the filter composition totally changes and is not the filter it once was.

I've decided to go with STP Extended Life in the gold package. The specs look good, the pleats look better than the Fram I've been using, they are available less than two miles from my house, and cheaper priced.

I only run my oil 6k anyway, and oil samples look good.

I've decided I have too many other things to stress about. I will still stress some about the filters, but not near as much as before. Both the 3.6 and 5.7 engines are either going to last, or eat up the cams, no matter what filter is in it.

 

[Burla]

Stress is something that is as useless as fear, and is a choice. The fact is these threads just reveal how things are ever changing, even top choice oils such as amsoil and redline are changing. Oils are constantly changing to accommodate the ever changing engines and the ever changing gov't goals and the ever changing manu specs. Many people think keeping up is interesting, if it causes stress there is an old saying that really does hold true, 'tis folly to be wise". I can promise you none of our wives ever stressed about what oil to use or filter. Ignorance is a safe space ready to accept all comers.

 

[Travis8352]

I'm tired of stressing about oil filters, then making a decision, only to find out after one or two uses, the filter composition totally changes and is not the filter it once was.

I've decided to go with STP Extended Life in the gold package. The specs look good, the pleats look better than the Fram I've been using, they are available less than two miles from my house, and cheaper priced.

I only run my oil 6k anyway, and oil samples look good.

I've decided I have too many other things to stress about. I will still stress some about the filters, but not near as much as before. Both the 3.6 and 5.7 engines are either going to last, or eat up the cams, no matter what filter is in it.

That filter is a great blend filter made by PGI. Efficiency is 99.5% @20 microns and it has a silicone gasket which ive never seen before

 

[HEMIMANN]

I tried asking the donaldson guys im lake speeds livestream he did with them to build a donaldson blue for our trucks but they never read my questions lol

Donaldson doesn't give a rip about our little group of quality-minded folk. Their target market is commercial equipment where machine downtime is beaucoup times more expensive than the cost of maintenance parts. That's the world I operated in with Mobil Oil. Knowledgeable companies, that is. Today many of them have been taken over by finance boneheads that run them into the ground.

I was amazed to find a Donaldson synthetic media hydraulic filter for my Deere Tractor. Now that I need one, they're out of stock. JFC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rustypipes12]

Actually STP filters were made by Champion labs until recently since they've gone out of business. It'll be interesting to see who picks up the slack since Fram no longer exists and Champ made a slew of OEM and brand name filters like RP, Amsoil, and STP.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Yes by highline warren. Better quality built to the same effeciency standards as the mann hummel version which is 99% at 30 microns. ZeeOsix on bitog is probably the best source for all filter info IMO

Is that Premium Guard brand? I've been using them on the Harley. They visually appear to be very well constructed. I haven't cut one open, but metal tube with clearly visible open holes, wire screen, etc.

But the Harley engine is the least of my concerns, compared to the truck, car, and tractor that see way more hours of run time.

https://www.amazon.com/PG63798-2006-2023-Harley-Davidson-2014-2023-2007-2019/dp/B07DN1DY9Z?pd_rd_w=6cLxg&content-id=amzn1.sym.6bb79025-718b-4ad1-b8ec-68027fb35564&pf_rd_p=6bb79025-718b-4ad1-b8ec-68027fb35564&pf_rd_r=RSCD2KJTP4415VVC28KV&pd_rd_wg=hz0iE&pd_rd_r=7c4d480a-d66a-433c-ae31-99785f5ef84a&pd_rd_i=B07DN1DY9Z&ref_=pd_bap_d_grid_rp_0_1_ec_t&th=1

 

[Travis8352]

Is that Premium Guard brand? I've been using them on the Harley. They visually appear to be very well constructed. I haven't cut one open, but metal tube with clearly visible open holes, wire screen, etc.

But the Harley engine is the least of my concerns, compared to the truck, car, and tractor that see way more hours of run time.

https://www.amazon.com/PG63798-2006-2023-Harley-Davidson-2014-2023-2007-2019/dp/B07DN1DY9Z?pd_rd_w=6cLxg&content-id=amzn1.sym.6bb79025-718b-4ad1-b8ec-68027fb35564&pf_rd_p=6bb79025-718b-4ad1-b8ec-68027fb35564&pf_rd_r=RSCD2KJTP4415VVC28KV&pd_rd_wg=hz0iE&pd_rd_r=7c4d480a-d66a-433c-ae31-99785f5ef84a&pd_rd_i=B07DN1DY9Z&ref_=pd_bap_d_grid_rp_0_1_ec_t&th=1

Yup thats the one!!

 

[Travis8352]

Actually STP filters were made by Champion labs until recently since they've gone out of business. It'll be interesting to see who picks up the slack since Fram no longer exists and Champ made a slew of OEM and brand name filters like RP, Amsoil, and STP.

Based on the pictures i found of the stp extended life its a PGI filter for sure

 

[06 Dodge]

One thing that would be nice is a requirement to state whether their micron rating is absolute or nominal. (nominal is only 50%,even absolute is less than 90%). That's according to one of the Engineers from Donaldson.

IIRC absolute at one time could be classified as anything over 96.6% but also lot of other factored are also involved like at what micron is the media rated for or at i.e. 5 micron, 25 micron ect ect...