Pentastar vs Hemi, which should you choose?

[Docwagon1776]

I was blown away at how dead the Accord forums are. Meanwhile, on here people are modding the crap out of their trucks and providing tons of great ideas and valuable information on how to get the most out of your truck.

How many lively forums for refrigerator owners are there? That's the difference. An Accord is an appliance. Trucks have a much higher ratio of enthusiast to appliance buyers out there, and forums reflect that.

Gas prices are often overrated in decision making because you see them in front of you constantly. I'm not saying it doesn't matter, to some it matters a lot, but actually pencil out your budget and most are paying more in nonsense spending then they are a 15% difference in fuel prices. I'd rather drive what I want to drive and not eat out an extra time a month or something, personally, but I'm in a place that fuel prices are largely irrelevant.

 

[Huliodude]

How many lively forums for refrigerator owners are there? That's the difference. An Accord is an appliance. Trucks have a much higher ratio of enthusiast to appliance buyers out there, and forums reflect that.

Gas prices are often overrated in decision making because you see them in front of you constantly. I'm not saying it doesn't matter, to some it matters a lot, but actually pencil out your budget and most are paying more in nonsense spending then they are a 15% difference in fuel prices. I'd rather drive what I want to drive and not eat out an extra time a month or something, personally, but I'm in a place that fuel prices are largely irrelevant.

Both your points are entirely correct. I just didn’t see the Accord as largely an appliance considering the sporty factor of the model I bought. Turns out, I don’t think Honda sold too many 2.0T’s as they’ve been discontinued for 2023. So that leaves just the hybrid and 1.5T models which could be argued are much more of an “appliance” car.

It’s true about gas prices playing a much bigger factor in buying decisions than they deserve due to prices being in your face every day. Had I just kept the Hemi Ram I had last year, I’d be better off financially despite the high gas prices. However the learning experience and getting the options I was missing in the Hemi truck made it worth it for me.

 

[Elvira]

I know fuel prices go up and down, I know that trucks do use more than cars and smaller vehicles.....but when I fire up that hemi and she rumbles to life, the cost is worth every penny. Comfortable, feeling safer in it, the best interior you could ask for, I am happy and so glad to drive my Ram and know there is very very little out there to compare it to...also knowing it is not a disposable foreign car.

 

[Dean2]

Op- I love driving my RAM for the comfort long distance etc. I do not drive it as a daily driver around town. I would never own a 6 in a pickup, it doesn't fit my use parameters, though it may for others.

We have other vehicles for to use around town or as daily drivers. You can easily get the best of both worlds by owning two vehicles and it really isn't much difference in total cost, over owning one. Only time it is a problem is if you insist on owning two brand new vehicles. One good used car and a pickup covers a lot more real estate than one or the other.

 

[smittyd174]

I did very well trading in my 2016 3500 with the cummins in it. 7 years 140,000 kms and got about 75% of what I paid for it . Bought the classic for several reasons , price , availability and by now most of the kinks have been worked out except for those they just don't want to fix, the 2 ticks . If you should ever need a part easier to find and not sold on the 5th gen yet , not enough change to justify the price.

 

[Slevin]

After the honeymoon phase, I started to notice a few things I wasn't enamoured with. The biggest one was the driver's seat. It's extremely narrow. I'm 5ft 10" and weigh 175lbs, and yet I couldn't fit my hips between the side bolsters. After driving for 40 minutes, the side bolsters would be pushing on the sides of my thighs and pain would set in. I found myself squirming in my seat a lot, changing position and trying to alleviate the pressure on my thighs. Also, I could just not get comfortable in the car. Even though it had a telescoping steering wheel and the RAM did not, it was still too high and too far away. I could not rest my arms on the armrests and hold the steering wheel at the same time, it was just too far away. The only semi-comfortable position was hanging my right arm at 10am on the steering wheel, and I could only do that for so long before I needed to change positions, and there weren't any other comfortable positions! I never thought a car with power adjustable seats and fully adjustable steering wheel had no comfortable position for the average size guy. I started to dread driving it when I new I had a drive over 40 minutes long.



I paid MSRP for it, drove it for 6 months and 15,000km, and the dealer offered me full MSRP for it, without any negotiation on my part. They are also dying to unload their hundreds of Rams on the lot. The Ram I ultimately traded for was sitting on their lot for 7 months, and they had 7 others optioned exactly the same.

So I picked up a new 4th Gen Classic SLT short box crew with a 3.55 gear, and all the options I wanted, such as keyless access, heated seats and steering, power seats, centre console, and the new UConnect 5 which supports wireless CarPlay and Android Auto. And finally, I got the upgraded Alpine stereo with the rear under seat subwoofer. Some people on here complain that it's not great, but it's probably the 2nd best stock stereo I've ever heard. And compared to the AM radio-like stereo of the Accord, I feel like I'm in a finally tuned concert hall. And wow this truck is quiet, super smooth, awesome view of the road, super quiet low NVH engine, unbelievably smooth transmission, a comfy seat with the steering wheel and armrests right where they should be, I am home.

Lastly, I have to say it's forums like this that also had a strong influence in my buying decision. I was blown away at how dead the Accord forums are. Meanwhile, on here people are modding the crap out of their trucks and providing tons of great ideas and valuable information on how to get the most out of your truck.

So I just wanted to say I'm happy to be back in a Ram, and I hope this helps you think twice before trading it in for a car!!

Lots of good info here. I'm in the same boat as you were. I traded my 18 Ecodiesel Ram Laramie for a 21 Accord Touring 2.0T. I don't miss the gen 2 Ecodiesel...but I do miss the rest of the truck.

I agree with your Accord review. I can't find a comfortable seating position. I hate that I can't rest my elbows on something while I hold the steering wheel. Otherwise it is a great car. I'm happy to hear you got MSRP for it on your trade in.

I'm looking for v6 Ram myself. My only thing now is, 5'7 bed or 6'4 bed? I'm leaning towards the longer one.

 

[Doug Ram]

We have two vehicles.The EcoDiesel truck and a Toyota Solara. Both get about the same mileage (cause the wife has a lead foot). The range of the ecodiesel when towing is the reason we bought it and I don't regret it a bit, even though gas is about 25% cheaper right now in our area.

 

[TheEnder]

Pentastar 100%. I love the 3.6 in my car so much. Such a great sounding engine and it’s incredibly reliable.

 

[Dean2]

Pentastar 100%. I love the 3.6 in my car so much. Such a great sounding engine and it’s incredibly reliable.

Key part, in your car!

 

[TheEnder]

Key part, in your car!

I’ve towed with rental 3.6Ls and with 3.92s it’s flawless.