Ram Riding and Handling absolutely terrible!

BellevilleRam

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Without seeing any other information, I have a feeling that the front coilovers might have been sprung for a gas powered Ram and along with the addition of the winch, you are bottoming out the front end due to too light a spring rate. I may be wrong, but that would certainly do it.
 

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Hi, Back from my mechanic where we put the truck on the lift.
He confirmed that there IS A 4" LIFT. (How the suspension shop in NH stated there is no lift is beyond comprehension)

Rear Shocks are Monroe Reflex
Struts are Masterpro

His Recommendation
---Go back to OEM with airbags
or
---Get rid of lift kit; replace struts and shocks
or
---Keep lift as is, however replace struts up front with quality (Bilstein 6112 kit or?)
and Replace shocks in rear

I told him I would post back to the Ram Forum once you've seen the pictures, where you all would have the most knowledge and been through this. I really don't want to sell the truck, but as Ive said, it's too punishing especially on New England roads to drive the truck. As Kurek suggested, a stable comfortable ride.

I'd like to get this right even if I have to wait. Can be done in stages if necessary?
Thanks much for your expertise.
 

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Edit: newer posts make what I wrote here obsolete.
 
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Thanks Kurek, will run this all by my mechanic for estimate on labor. Have any forum members reading suggestions gone this route? What's been the result on the ride? Thanks again, very helpful toward getting the ride character enjoyable.
 

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Any chance you could take similar pictures of the lift while vehicle is on the ground compressed by its own weight? This would help in determining any potential handling issues regarding suspension or steering axis geometry being off. I don't really want to offer advice until I've seen the entirety of the suspension resting in a position it should be. Also, an alignment sheet would be extremely beneficial to review caster, camber, and toe settings.

Edit: Looks like your driver side CV axle was replaced at some point?
 
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Thanks Kurek, will run this all by my mechanic for estimate on labor. Have any forum members reading suggestions gone this route? What's been the result on the ride? Thanks again, very helpful toward getting the ride character enjoyable.
Kurek offers great advice, but don't prematurely jump the gun. Find the problem before just throwing an entire new suspension at it. It took me almost a full year of fiddling with my RAM 2500 before I got the aftermarket suspension on my truck dialed in. Now it floats compared to stock, but it was a lot of trial and error.
 

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Newby on this site.

Thankfully I finally found the Ram Forum and you who may have been through this.
and might be able to solve an issue that few have any knowledge.

Scenario
I purchased 2016 Ram 1500, limited laramie ecodiesal last May looking for a rugged 4x4 truck to tow my camper and use for work.

The Ram was built in Canada and imported. The suspension work, front end bumper and winch had been done in Canada

I was told it was lifted 6" by the sales manager at BidCars, Walpole Mass, a used car dealership who—despite seeming knowledge and a good reputation known for selling
lots of pickup trucks in particular—was obviously clueless/misled me into the suspension work and that the ride was normal.

The airbags had been removed and a coil suspension installed.
It's running Nitto Grappler 305 55 20 (diameter is close to stock)

The handling and ride has been absolutely terrible…every bump and uneven road shakes vehicle. It even launched
on a highway bump. I drive mainly highway (Rt 93 here in New England) and travel good highways…the seconday roads are virtually impossible to drive with this truck!)

In frustration I took the truck to an experienced suspension shop in NH where I was told by the owner:
There had never been a lift
Spacers had been put in to raise the front end above the struts!

Here were his suggestions.

1) Spend $2500 to do a proper lift with all the components
2) Take out the spacers, find a used bumper and get rid of the winch and aftermarket bumper (and the weight up forward)
3) Sell the vehicle and be done with the situation altogether. (this would involve I'm sure a loss as the truck cost a fair amount

Ive had three 4x4s in my adult life all with winches and heavy duty ft bumpers.
(A land rover, a Toyota Tundra, a Toyota Landcrusier wagon and a Toyota 4 Runner)

I never ran into such poor riding and handling as with this Ram.


The work done on my Ram was obviously done poorly and I was an idiot to not have it checked before purchase by a legitimate after market suspension shop.

Overall the truck has been a good vehicle. Has 78000 miles. It has every option that works for me. I hate to dump it

From what Ive read on the forum some out there understand these trucks and what's worked.
Thanks to anyone who can offer solutions.
JH
NO Ram are built in Canada, they are built in US or Mexico plant. Now it may be a Canada spec RAM out of US but, again, NOT built in Canada. Also sounds like the problem with the RAM is NOT the RAM's fault but whoever owned it before and screwed it up !! Don't blame RAM for some idiotg messing with it wrong.
 

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I'm just an old fart who has been there, done that, seen that and had to fix those kind of fuckups. Ain't no faster way to Junk a good truck than by some fly by night know nothing SOB installing a cheap lift kit.
 

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Hi, Back from my mechanic where we put the truck on the lift.
He confirmed that there IS A 4" LIFT. (How the suspension shop in NH stated there is no lift is beyond comprehension)

Rear Shocks are Monroe Reflex
Struts are Masterpro

His Recommendation
---Go back to OEM with airbags
or
---Get rid of lift kit; replace struts and shocks
or
---Keep lift as is, however replace struts up front with quality (Bilstein 6112 kit or?)
and Replace shocks in rear

I told him I would post back to the Ram Forum once you've seen the pictures, where you all would have the most knowledge and been through this. I really don't want to sell the truck, but as Ive said, it's too punishing especially on New England roads to drive the truck. As Kurek suggested, a stable comfortable ride.

I'd like to get this right even if I have to wait. Can be done in stages if necessary?
Thanks much for your expertise.
Initial thoughts, Sway bar endlinks are waaayyyy too tight, The struts are some brand of quick strut with garbage coils and i would put my money on those 2 things destroying your ride quality. I know from experience. PM me know if you want a set of OEM stuts loaded with coils assembled. That way you can start there and decide on upgrading to something like a Fox coil over or a Billstein 6112
 

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Any chance you could take similar pictures of the lift while vehicle is on the ground compressed by its own weight? This would help in determining any potential handling issues regarding suspension or steering axis geometry being off. I don't really want to offer advice until I've seen the entirety of the suspension resting in a position it should be. Also, an alignment sheet would be extremely beneficial to review caster, camber, and toe settings.

Edit: Looks like your driver side CV axle was replaced at some point?
See photos attached of truck on ground on it's own weight. CV axle was replaced a few months ago by NH Dealer.
 

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