Ram Updates: What we know so far

Wanted33

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My wife wanted a new Grand Cherokee so in March we ordered a new 4XE plug in hybrid version.
Still waiting...

Frank, I couldn't even get an order placed for a GC WL. Every dealer I spoke with has a different reason why. Thankfully, my wife got my head in the right place to stop me from ordering one. They are nice vehicles, and the test drive we took was quite impressive. But after 45 years she knew I wouldn't be happy driving one. I've always had a truck (have a Ranger now that I'll sell before the Ram arrives), and thankfully she made me realize I'd be lost without one. :)

I hope your wife hears something about her's soon. Good luck.
 

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She's driving a 2018 GC Trailhawk now so she likes the Jeeps.
It's not the WL though, just the standard 2 row GC but she was interested in the Plug in Hybrid aspect as well.
 

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Well, this thread got me to go out and put down a deposit on an EV. Its not replacing my truck, but it is replacing my wife's car. With how much she drives and the majority of that being around town, it just makes too much financial sense, even if gas was $2.50 a gal. 2-3 times per year we do a trip of 400+ miles. Figured worst case we would just take my truck for those trips, but then thinking about how much gas costs in Cali, I mapped out a scenario, and even across rural Utah and Nevada, there are chargers waaaaay closer than every 250 miles, more like less than every 100 miles. The maintenance costs of an EV are much less than a ICE vehicle too.

Guess its good that not everyone on this thread is being forced to replace every vehicle they currently own with an EV right now (an EV truck doesnt make sense for me and I think it will be a while before it will).
Not trying to beat a dead horse, but the point was you may find charging stations in various parking lots according to your estimate at every 100 miles...but today less than 1% of the US owns EV's. What happens when its 25%, 50% or more? Those 1 or 2 charging stations will surely be occupied on a much more regular basis. Those free charging stations are also a novelty to attract customers and show how progressive the stores are...But surely they will not remain free when the masses have EV's. As demand grows, these will become business opportunities that offer pay-to-charge services. Will it be $10 or $20 per hour of charge? I couldn't see it costing less. And having to wait? Come on.
If EV's fit a lifestyle, then great - buy one. My issue is with forcing the masses to comply by making gas completely uneconomical - it's figuratively strangling people into compliance.
 

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Not trying to beat a dead horse, but the point was you may find charging stations in various parking lots according to your estimate at every 100 miles...but today less than 1% of the US owns EV's. What happens when its 25%, 50% or more? Those 1 or 2 charging stations will surely be occupied on a much more regular basis. Those free charging stations are also a novelty to attract customers and show how progressive the stores are...But surely they will not remain free when the masses have EV's. As demand grows, these will become business opportunities that offer pay-to-charge services. Will it be $10 or $20 per hour of charge? I couldn't see it costing less. And having to wait? Come on.
If EV's fit a lifestyle, then great - buy one. My issue is with forcing the masses to comply by making gas completely uneconomical - it's figuratively strangling people into compliance.
I think forcing anything is bad, but I dont think that current gas prices are some conspiracy theory in forcing adoption of EVs. To buy that theory you have to completely not understand how global economies work and at the same time give a lot of credit to some poltician(s) somewhere, which I think most people would find it hard to believe that ANY politician could be smart enough to pull off something like that. The states like CA and WA that are legislating new vehicles sales after 2030 or so be EV only is not what I want to see. I think we all prefer choice.

Since I have done my part in pulling this thread off topic from its original intent, has anyone heard when '23 order banks will open, and if the new twin turbo engine will be available? That is very intriguing to me.
 

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According to todays news:

OHIO's Electric companies are asking customers to refrain from using their HVAC Systems, so that they don't have to have rolling blackouts !!

Sound familiar ??

soon it will be refrain from using your HVAC or plugging in your vehicle

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Have you ever stood in line at the grocery store & had a lady with a full shopping cart in the line ahead of you.
The register in the next aisle is either just as full as yours or no cashier is working it.
So the lady with a full cart finally gets to the register & you are wondering why you did not go to the 7/11 & get your gallon of milk.

You watch the lady open her purse to pay & you begin to think that you are about to pay & get out of the store,
BUT, the lady breaks out her coupon book & they have not been sorted out yet, not only that, some of the coupons are double.

Have you ever hollered for a store manager & made a fuss.
Just imagine, the EV owner that does not want to stop at 80% charge or they are out in dog walking area with their dog & their vehicle has at least 80% charge.
I would surely make a fuss & i think i am even tempered.
 

MikeinSonoma

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At least the horse is in front of the cart (car) instead of the cart before the horse like we're trying to do! While I'm thinking about it, the one's comparing going from ICE cars to EV's to back when they were going from horseback to a car with an engine doesn't make sense. First off, we have no one to ask how they looked at that change. Not even an apples to apples comparison so come up with something else! Pretty sure the majority would rather have a car! We'll never know!
Yes it actually is a pretty good comparison. History recorded peoples opinion you don’t need to have them here to ask.


 

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I remember reading some history how glad people were not to have horse **** on roads, and have to clean up in town. Except for maybe the guys who got paid to clean up the ****! lol

Plus, maintaining a horse is daily work, multiple times a day. Cars seem damn near maintenance free compared to that. But horses are natural in the environment too - they leave little damage when logging, for example, and employ a sub-economy to care for them. They were native to North America prior to Ice Age.

Sometimes I think we worship productivity at the risk of extincting ourselves. At least the dinosaurs had an asteroid. 8 billion of us is too many.
 
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