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Anyone have a rebel with air suspension? How are the road manners? I had a 21 PW which i was about to do some suspension work on to improve some in road manners.


I’m looking at the rebel for improved road manners and mild off road capability. Is a rebel kind of a half ton version of the PW? I’ve had good experiences with two previous eco diesels so I would go that route with the gen 3.
 

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people seem to like the four corner air suspension till they start having problems with it. With the Gen4 trucks it was usually people in colder climates that had more issues with it although the system was revamped for the Gen5 trucks.
As for the 3rd gen EcoDiesel platform, not many problems have been reported, it's probably on par with any of the other Ram power-train platforms.
 

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people seem to like the four corner air suspension till they start having problems with it. With the Gen4 trucks it was usually people in colder climates that had more issues with it although the system was revamped for the Gen5 trucks.
As for the 3rd gen EcoDiesel platform, not many problems have been reported, it's probably on par with any of the other Ram power-train platforms.

What about the air suspension was revamped for 5th gen that improves reliability/longevity?
 

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Anyone have a rebel with air suspension? How are the road manners? I had a 21 PW which i was about to do some suspension work on to improve some in road manners.


I’m looking at the rebel for improved road manners and mild off road capability. Is a rebel kind of a half ton version of the PW? I’ve had good experiences with two previous eco diesels so I would go that route with the gen 3.

I have 21 Rebel with factory Air. As mentioned above. The older ones in cold had issue.

I'm in Toronto, it's not really that cold here. -32c range at times. I haven't had issue yet.
After another year or two, might give different answer.

I do off-road with my Rebel a lot.

Only thing I don't like about mine. I find it to be bouncy. Highway I drive on, has metal plates on corners/under bridges.
It jumps a lot. Didn't have issue with F150, my car, suv, etc. On the same highway. Dealer claims it's normal.
I took them on road test, drove 160KM hit metal, and Truck bounced in to next lane.
"That is normal, but please slowed, I want to go home"

Towing with Air does great though. I was towing 10k trailer without any issues.
 

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Rebel is essentially just a more aggressive look trim package really. The air suspension is set up an inch higher than other trims and though I'm not positive I believe it uses the lower trim transfer case as it's more reliable off road. Power wagon is a completely different animal compared to a regular 2500. Different suspension,winch locking front and rear diffs and probably a few more things I haven't thought of. I'll be curious to see how the new air suspension lasts. It's still a closed nitrogen system with no easy way to purge moisture if it gets in there so I expect it to have a lot of the same troubles over time. Also kind of a bad choice for an off roader as suspension travel is limited.
 

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Rebel is essentially just a more aggressive look trim package really. The air suspension is set up an inch higher than other trims and though I'm not positive I believe it uses the lower trim transfer case as it's more reliable off road. Power wagon is a completely different animal compared to a regular 2500. Different suspension,winch locking front and rear diffs and probably a few more things I haven't thought of. I'll be curious to see how the new air suspension lasts. It's still a closed nitrogen system with no easy way to purge moisture if it gets in there so I expect it to have a lot of the same troubles over time. Also kind of a bad choice for an off roader as suspension travel is limited.

Depends which Rebel options you picked. Some have Auto/4x4, others like mine don't, and have heavy duty TC.

I also have lifted Rubicon and bring my Rebel 97% same places. Does fine, way better than PW, TRX, Raptors I drive with.
Broke few wind shields, but that from poor judgement.
 

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Well then you must be an exceptional driver going out with weekend warriors with fat wallets. The raptor and TRX are in a whole other league. The power wagon is heavy so it's more of a slow and steady off roader so in some cases I could see it outperformed by even a tradesman with some decent tires.
 

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Well then you must be an exceptional driver going out with weekend warriors with fat wallets. The raptor and TRX are in a whole other league. The power wagon is heavy so it's more of a slow and steady off roader so in some cases I could see it outperformed by even a tradesman with some decent tires.
Exceptional? Ha no. Crazy yes.

Currently 14K on my truck. over 10 of it is from Off-roading.

PW is ok. It's just heavier. I have lift for my Rebel with Air, but it's still box, haven't time to install it.
And I'm still debating ,trading my Rebel for Sand Blast TRX.
 

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I switched from the air suspension to coilovers with 3 inch lift and am much happier off-road and on.
 

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One thing folks haven't mentioned is that the Rebels come with E-rated tires from the factory. E-rated tires will be more rough riding on the road......I've had them on multiple vehicles. They are very heavy/stiff tires, and won't provide the "ride" that a standard 1500 has. It has nothing to do with the actual suspension (air or not). I currently drive a '16 Rebel. It's a stiff ride, but great when towing or offroad. And yes, my '16 is like a PW-lite (beefier transfer case). I have 83k on the Rebel so far....much of that is long road trips. I find that "in town" driving is the most bumpy....highway is fine.
 
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