Stick shift anyone?

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All my trucks for many years had manual transmissions. But for towing an automatic transmission is far superior. Even with professional cross country tractor and trailer rig drivers the ones with rigs with automatic transmissions get 2-3 mpg better fuel economy. When these rigs get 6-9 mpg a savings of 2-3 mpg makes all the difference in the world.

Drag racers switched to automatic transmissions in the 1960's as they got faster times than the guys with manual transmissions. And every vehicle I have owned, cars and trucks, provided the ability to select the gear myself. I guess those that do not realize this have never bothered to read the vehicle's manual.

The only advantage of a manual transmission is to be able to use engine braking in off road situations and to be able to slip the clutch when "walking" a vehicle ups a grade with loose dirt or rocks where torque needs to be moderated. Even in this situation 99% of drivers would do better with an automatic transmission with grade control or hill assist or other machine assistance. Raptors and Power Wagons and similar trucks are marketed to such off-road novices.
I understand what you are saying. Not having been a tractor/trailer driver, I don't have any experience to discuss there. Yet, in our personal vehicles, I have had more experience. I know how to 'shift' an auto, but it gives zero pleasure to me and makes my driving less smooth. I enjoy the endless control that a manual gives me. For those that don't enjoy it, please enjoy your autos.

I have an 89 Jeep Cherokee, 4wd, 4.0 six that I was getting a consistent 25mpg with. Part of accomplishing this was dropping into neutral when I could coast. I am concerned that shifting into neutral 2-10 times every 10 miles is not healthy for some autos. So I don't when driving an auto.
 

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With the automatic transmissions that you can shift manually nowadays, unless it's a classic why even bother with a clutch. A person can't shift faster than an automatic. They don't even offer a stick in the new Corvette.
No they don’t offer a manual transmission, but after getting going I don’t use a clutch, I listen and shift. Both my 26 year old daughter and my 35 year old son can drive a manual, and I still have a manual in my 1996 Dodge with the Cummins. I FAR prefer a manual. But I’m constantly amazed at how many people CAN’T drive one. I say leave only a vehicle with a manual transmission and they will figure it out, I did.
 

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I was going to say, I thought they ended the G56 in '18. I ended up with a '12 3500ST with the G56 when I was looking high and low for a 2500/3500 truck with a manual transmission. That's when I learned Ram was the only one left making a manual and that Ford had stopped their V10 gasser with the manual.

Someone hit the nail on the head when they said they want to actually drive the truck. I was new to the full size trucks when I got my first truck camper and shortly owned 2500 with the 5.7 hemi had plenty of power, it drove me crazy searching for a gear climbing through the Rockies. Once I made it to AZ I sold it in a heart beat and started my search for a manual. Five years later I still have my 3500 and am glad I tracked it down. Living in the mountains, I want to actually be able to drive and control the truck by activating the clutch and picking a gear
I recently experienced the same thing. It’s my first full-size truck - bought it last fall. So I’m in my 2015 2500 with 5.7L gasser (at full cargo & trailer weight capacities per the CAT scale) when towing my 9,500 lb travel trailer from Georgia to Idaho (& back) over a few mountains. I learned quickly to manually shift (using the + and - on the shift lever) as neither speed control nor flooring it would make it downshift to the gear I knew it needed to be in to keep my 60 mph speed up the mountain BEFORE it was already bogged down in too high of a gear while still at the bottom of the mountain. If most of the semi’s are AT, then that might explain why they got bogged down so quickly at the base of the mountains.

As a side note, I noticed my temp gauge climbing higher than the usual (207° To 210° I think) to maybe 225° to 230° with prolonged (3 to 5 minutes) uphill pull with the engine around 5000 rpm usually in 3rd gear managing to keep at least 55 mph (around 80° outside in Tennessee). (A joyful 5.3 to 9 mpg on the trip, depending on speeds of 77 mph to 60 mph, respectively, if anyone is curious.) Oil temp didn’t rise. Is that coolant temp rise to be expected under those conditions? I realize the engine must be producing a lot of heat at that satisfactory level of performance, given the loads. Oh, and I was only running regular at the time. I have since read up on the mid grade gas discussion, and the truck does run better on mid grade (no knock/hesitation at lower rpm’s when accelerating up Georgia hills with my 800 lbs of work tools/supplies).
 
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It's also kinda bad for a muscle car stick. Easily the worst feeling one of the GM/Ford/Mopar competitors. GM's 6 speed is still the bestest for standard issue, although I hear sexy sexy things about the Mach 1 Mustang's version as well. No way to try one out for me, unfortunately. Probably for the better, last thing I need is another sports car.
Aren’t the manuals they’re using in the Challenger a Tremec? Can’t get much better than a Tremec in my experience. I don’t know about the manual in the Camaro but isn’t the manual in the mustang a Chinese piece of junk?
 

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It's also kinda bad for a muscle car stick. Easily the worst feeling one of the GM/Ford/Mopar competitors. GM's 6 speed is still the bestest for standard issue, although I hear sexy sexy things about the Mach 1 Mustang's version as well. No way to try one out for me, unfortunately. Probably for the better, last thing I need is another sports car.
I was under the impression the Camaro and Challenger both used the TR6060,but i might be wrong as i'm not up on the Camaro as much as i should be.
 

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Aren’t the manuals they’re using in the Challenger a Tremec? Can’t get much better than a Tremec in my experience. I don’t know about the manual in the Camaro but isn’t the manual in the mustang a Chinese piece of junk?

I test drove the trio and ended up buying a Camaro. The Challenger's stick was easily the worst feeling. It may be the shifter they use instead of the actual transmission, I don't know, but the factory Hurst in the Camaro was much better. The Mustang felt nice, but my understanding is it isn't as robust. The Mach 1 has a different transmission than the GT and is supposed to be better.
 

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LOL, If you buy something that cost $4.53, hand them a $5 bill and 3 pennies and see what happens. Good luck at getting your 2 quarters back! Now I just tell them to keep the pennies, much easier!
No offense to young adults, but hand a young cashier a US half-dollar and watch them look at it like its foreign currency.

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Nothing like rowing thru the gears. Last time I took my truck in for it’s annual safety inspection, the inspector opened the door, looked inside and had to go get the old guy in the shop to do the test drive as he was the only one there that knew how to drive a stick shift.
Manual transmissions have become the poor persons anti-theft device.

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