Strange idea for the Alpine system.

[WudzRydr]

I've been reading the forums on how to get a little better sound in my truck. So of course I'm wanting to upgrade the speakers first. I'm now finding out that having the Alpine system is a bad thing unfortunately. I'm so glad I paid extra for it.

So my idea is this:

Has anyone thought of switching the wires for the front and rear door speakers? It could be done at the amp as a pretty simple task.

You could theoretically just toss a set of coaxials in the dash and front doors, some midbass speakers in the rear door and then remove the center channel. This would allow by using the fader to adjust the sound between the front doors and dash speakers to try and repair the messed up soundstage.

It's almost 2am and I've been numbing my mind with this for a couple hours reading about what frequencies go to what speakers and the impedance of each and still didn't find a concrete answer. So if it's a stupid idea it won't hurt my feelings if you tell me so.

 

[Etroze86]

Well its an interesting way of looking at that problem. Idk how much it will help the sound stage since it takes some pretty good eq to get the sound right with the dash speakers. While you are re wiring I would also suggest sound deadening to help bring the most midbass out that you can. After that if you aren't satisfied get a DSP and start from scratch.

 

[Hipps2000]

What do you recommend for a DSP? I am looking between the kicker front row/Rockford 360.

 

[BlkRamRt]

360.3 is good also look into mosconi 6to8, audison bit one and bit ten, jbl ms8. these are some of the best out there.

 

[autokraftgt]

I didnt have the alpine system so excuse me if im wrong. But the output on your rear doors is next to nothing... Would that entail that your front stage would be much quiter, but your rear doors would be rockin?
I dont like the idea of dedicated midbass in the rears
Id buy a processor and follow the steps that are known to work.

 

[kkreit01]

That is an idea, and it would help if the rear speakers were full-range. They are not. There is no full-range signal present in the OE Alpine system. The front 6x9s are mid-low only. The rear 6x9s are mid-high only. If you swapped, you'd only hear all high frequencies up front. It would be worse.

 

[WudzRydr]

I read on another forum that someone got the different channels tested and the rears came out to 50-20khz. Any lower than that is sub territory. But if the output is lower to the rears it doesn't really matter anyway.

I'm pretty much done with spending gobs of money on car audio. Just gonna replace a few things in this truck and be happy with what I end up with.

 

[kkreit01]

^There's no way my rears went down that low. You don't need a fancy test. Park your truck in your driveway. Play some dynamic music (lots of bass & highs). Fade all the way to the rear, and put your ear down by a door speaker. Hear any bass? I tried the cheap route, by using rear door speakers as high-level input to my amp initially. I only had mid-high frequencies coming out of the amp. There was no bass what-so-ever. Various models years and systems may have different results. Mine is the 430N Alpine. For my personal tastes, I'm summing the front door, rear door, and sub signals. I tried the dash speakers instead of rear doors, and it was worse for me.