Synthetic Oil

[CanuckRam1313]

Thanks!
I know you guys get screwed on pricing up there, don't know why - tariffs or something. I got interested again as my Red Line stash gets whittled down slowly, I think I'll try HPL SC 0W-30. With our 15% discount, a case of 4 x 1 gallon jugs is $13.27 per quart (for comparative pricing to Red Line before shipping, whatever that is).

A quick web survey shows Red Line 5W-30 for $16.79 per quart, unsure which sites ship free or not.

Oh yeah, we take it with zero lube here in Canuck-Land, that's for sure!
Exchange rate, shipping (in USD), and the duty fees on top when it crosses the border.
Plus our dictator wants to take all our firearms, too!

HPL SC 0W30 is a great product, and their customer service is exceptional as well.
You can't go wrong with it.

 

[Burla]

been a while, redline 13qrt... 5w30

 

[Burla]

member badger 13 posted this, real important video for our base. I guess they had MDS earlier in the chargers?

2007 Dodge charger Camshaft failure, took out an engine

We tear this Hemi down and find the last shop that did the DOD delete got it wrong. Let’s see what took this motor out

youtu.be

 

[BLUKTY2]

I found this to be an interesting read. Came across it at BITOG and thought that I would share it here. For me, just more validation for using 5W-30 oil in an engine that RECOMMENDS the use of 0W-20 in the NA market.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590123024014142

 

[fitteenhundred]

Agreed. Good article. Thanks for sharing.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Yeah, a bunch of simulation. The correlation of Viscosity to wear has been well established in many years of tests, up to a point of no benefit.

i.e. the minimum Viscosity oil needed to attain full separation of moving machine elements under maximum load and temperature.
Any thicker Viscosity just wastes machine energy in unnecessary viscous drag. It was generally accepted SAE 30 was required for the average consumer vehicle in average usage and climates.
The move to low Viscosity oil is ONLY for small fuel savings at the price of wearing your engine out faster.
That's all there is to this topic. It's very simple.

 

[HEMIMANN]

been a while, redline 13qrt... 5w30

That's a great, old-timey price, thanks.

For those of us that live in nature's garden spots (North Dakota, the most intemperate place in the United States to reside short of Alaska, actually has "The Garden State" as their state motto on their license plate - hah!), Red Line going bonkers over the past years with availability, pricing, and formula changes has me headed to try HPL Super Car 0W-30 year around.

No more hunting and pecking for Red Line sales and inventory for two differing viscosity grades. The spec sheet numbers for HPL SC 0W-30 are that good.

Is their formula as good a tick killer as Red Line? Nobody knows. None of us can really afford an overinflated truck price anymore, so it's a huge risk if it isn't. David from HPL told us SC formula does have "esters" and "AN's" (which act as esters), presumably more than required to hold additives in solution and are part of the base oil like Red Line is.

Are there enough? Who the hell knows? We can deduce there are LESS of those because the low temperature pumpability is better than Red Line.
@Travis8352

 

[Sherman Bird]

Look at that test date.

That was three years ago, these oil filters have since changed in filtering efficiency.

Follow the data....

 

[Burla]

So I think the odds will be about 10,000 to one that Trump will erase EV mandates, so when that happens do you think stelantis would bring back the hemi? So it is interesting because doesn't every other full sized truck brand have an optional v8? So ram is the only one with no v8 except the 702hp model that most of us will never own? So is this an example of one company going all in regardless of the safe move since most companies are keeping their v8's? would this be enough to move you guys away from ram on future purchases?

 

[Wild one]

So I think the odds will be about 10,000 to one that Trump will erase EV mandates, so when that happens do you think stelantis would bring back the hemi? So it is interesting because doesn't every other full sized truck brand have an optional v8? So ram is the only one with no v8 except the 702hp model that most of us will never own? So is this an example of one company going all in regardless of the safe move since most companies are keeping their v8's? would this be enough to move you guys away from ram on future purchases?

What goods bringing back the Hemi if they can't supply parts to keep the ones running that are on the road now .
I don't forsee any change from Stellantis on producing more parts to keep existing vehicles running

 

[knightjp]

Stellantis would not just be focusing on the US market, it will be trying to adhere to European markets as well and as far as I can see, Europe is f**ked. So even if EV mandates do drop in the US, they won't be in Europe and most likely the course would continue in the direction it currently is on. I have hope that one day the HEMI would have a 4th Gen. But I don't see that happening for a long time yet. Stellantis has probably put millions into the R&D for the Hurricane and they won't consider a replacement without giving its time in the limelight.

 

[Stefan N]

Didn't Ford do the same thing with the Eco Power engine? and just took the 5.0 back later or did they make a new V8?

 

[knightjp]

Didn't Ford do the same thing with the Eco Power engine? and just took the 5.0 back later or did they make a new V8?

They did. You'd think that someone would learn from their mistake, but nope.
Personally, I'm glad that Ram went I6 rather than V6. Would have been a even more awesome if it was a more modern version of the Slant 6.

 

[Yardbird]

I think they over complicated it with twin turbos. I know, less turbo lag, and less emissions come with less lag, but many more parts and electronics to fail.

I can't figure why everyone is ******* for more horsepower. It's not needed in the majority of cases, and hurts long term reliability.

 

[HEMIMANN]

So I think the odds will be about 10,000 to one that Trump will erase EV mandates, so when that happens do you think stelantis would bring back the hemi? So it is interesting because doesn't every other full sized truck brand have an optional v8? So ram is the only one with no v8 except the 702hp model that most of us will never own? So is this an example of one company going all in regardless of the safe move since most companies are keeping their v8's? would this be enough to move you guys away from ram on future purchases?

Because it's a Euro company. I lived this movie when Cummins brought in French management of power generation division. They halved our sales within 5 years, then blamed us for doing what they told us we had to do or be fired, then fired us anyway. Arrogant sadists.

 

[knightjp]

Because it's a Euro company. I lived this movie when Cummins brought in French management of power generation division. They halved our sales within 5 years, then blamed us for doing what they told us we had to do or be fired, then fired us anyway. Arrogant sadists.

Considering the state of France right now, explains a lot. James May was right.

 

[Burla]

Modern diesel uoa pdf. He just said amsoil 5w30 but as you see no moly it must be amsoil euro or diesel oil? Are you surprised Blackstone didn't say hey if you want to go that far on oil you should add tbn/tan to your report?

 

[Burla]

We had a couple chats about plastics in this thread, but nobody brought up the fact you can turn plastic into synthetic oil?

Plastic, which is originally produced using crude oil, can also be used to produce synthetic oil and gas through a process called pyrolysis. Through pyrolysis, the plastic is heated to extremely high temperatures, between 300⁰C and 900⁰C, with a lack of oxygen.

Link. All you need is heat, like wth?? Why are we dumping plastic into the landfill??



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[crackerjack1957]

We had a couple chats about plastics in this thread, but nobody brought up the fact you can turn plastic into synthetic oil?

Plastic, which is originally produced using crude oil, can also be used to produce synthetic oil and gas through a process called pyrolysis. Through pyrolysis, the plastic is heated to extremely high temperatures, between 300⁰C and 900⁰C, with a lack of oxygen.

Link. All you need is heat, like wth?? Why are we dumping plastic into the landfill??



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Plastic oil in a plastic bottle......LoL

 

[Burla]

Plastic oil in a plastic bottle......LoL

The supply chain that keeps on giving.