Synthetic Oil

Oil of Choice

  • Castrol Syntec/Edge

    Votes: 224 8.4%
  • Royal Purple

    Votes: 317 11.9%
  • AMSOil

    Votes: 376 14.1%
  • Valvoline Synpower

    Votes: 158 5.9%
  • Mobil 1

    Votes: 952 35.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 632 23.8%

  • Total voters
    2,659

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Kap1

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Hi all,

Oil question for you!

So I got a 2022 tundra with the v6 turbo, and plan on getting oil changes every 5k miles.

I got prepaid maintenance/oil changes from the Toyota dealership every 5k miles. I like this idea as it saves me a lot of time and is convenient.

I'm however worried that they might be using very cheap bulk oil to do their oil changes. I've heard that dealerships usually use cheapest oil and not Oem.

Questions:

1. How can I verify which oil they use and if it's good enough?

2. Should I get Blackstone test done right after the oil change was done? And do send ****** oil sample to Blackstone to compare brand new oil and what Toyota dealership put into my truck?

Do I need to do TBN analysis as well?

What will these oil lab results tell me? Will I be able to figure out which brand/kind they use?

3. Any way to get oil sample out of my Tundra engine without draining oil from the bottom?

Any other comments? No I don't want to do my own oil change :)

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JHoward

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Hi all,

Oil question for you!

So I got a 2022 tundra with the v6 turbo, and plan on getting oil changes every 5k miles.

I got prepaid maintenance/oil changes from the Toyota dealership every 5k miles. I like this idea as it saves me a lot of time and is convenient.

I'm however worried that they might be using very cheap bulk oil to do their oil changes. I've heard that dealerships usually use cheapest oil and not Oem.

Questions:

1. How can I verify which oil they use and if it's good enough?

2. Should I get Blackstone test done right after the oil change was done? And do send ****** oil sample to Blackstone to compare brand new oil and what Toyota dealership put into my truck?

Do I need to do TBN analysis as well?

What will these oil lab results tell me? Will I be able to figure out which brand/kind they use?

3. Any way to get oil sample out of my Tundra engine without draining oil from the bottom?

Any other comments? No I don't want to do my own oil change :)

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Imo, as long as the 'yota dealership is performing oci's while it's in warranty you shouldn't stress on what oil/filter is used. If something happens to your engine, it's on them.
 

Hemi395

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Hi all,

Oil question for you!

So I got a 2022 tundra with the v6 turbo, and plan on getting oil changes every 5k miles.

I got prepaid maintenance/oil changes from the Toyota dealership every 5k miles. I like this idea as it saves me a lot of time and is convenient.

I'm however worried that they might be using very cheap bulk oil to do their oil changes. I've heard that dealerships usually use cheapest oil and not Oem.

Questions:

1. How can I verify which oil they use and if it's good enough?

2. Should I get Blackstone test done right after the oil change was done? And do send ****** oil sample to Blackstone to compare brand new oil and what Toyota dealership put into my truck?

Do I need to do TBN analysis as well?

What will these oil lab results tell me? Will I be able to figure out which brand/kind they use?

3. Any way to get oil sample out of my Tundra engine without draining oil from the bottom?

Any other comments? No I don't want to do my own oil change :)

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Not all dealers use bulk 50 gallon drums, the Ram dealer that I bought my truck from in 2013 did my free oil change when I first got the truck used bottled Mopar labeled oil. On the slip they give you it should list the Toyota PN for the oil and filter so you could do quick search to see if it's a bottle or a 50 gal drum.

If it doesn't you could always ask them what they use
 

Burla

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Hemi
Hi all,

Oil question for you!

So I got a 2022 tundra with the v6 turbo, and plan on getting oil changes every 5k miles.

I got prepaid maintenance/oil changes from the Toyota dealership every 5k miles. I like this idea as it saves me a lot of time and is convenient.

I'm however worried that they might be using very cheap bulk oil to do their oil changes. I've heard that dealerships usually use cheapest oil and not Oem.

Questions:

1. How can I verify which oil they use and if it's good enough?

2. Should I get Blackstone test done right after the oil change was done? And do send ****** oil sample to Blackstone to compare brand new oil and what Toyota dealership put into my truck?

Do I need to do TBN analysis as well?

What will these oil lab results tell me? Will I be able to figure out which brand/kind they use?

3. Any way to get oil sample out of my Tundra engine without draining oil from the bottom?

Any other comments? No I don't want to do my own oil change :)

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Do you regret going prepaid? If you were concerned on what oil the use you shouldnt have bought it? You can stick a might pump down the dip stick if you want to not milk it from the bottom, also you can put a valve under there to make oil changes easier. So you are done with rams? One couldn't blame you for that with the lemon you got.

The good news Kap, toyota's are not known for engine issues that I know of. If toyota uses thier oem oil it is pretty legendary additive package, high moly good for turbo. Do you know the weight they use? Anyhow, if the moly is super high you will know what they use is oem. Now, before going with blackstone, I would make sure they actually changed the oil at least once, so you know what they are using. And don't be afrain to ask them as well.

Gotta join a tundra forum, see what issues face you. Maybe start a syn thread :)
 

Burla

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does anyone know the additive package of the 5w30 oem toyota motor oil?
 

U&A

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Trans fluid/filter change in the wifes 2019 Ford Ranger today. Looks just as simple as our trucks beside the location of the stupid trans dip stick. Instead of making it extend all the way up to where you can access it from under the hood it’s actually the short little stub of a dipstick that’s sticking out the side of the trans housing just above the pan.

And im going with OEM fluid as this is a 10speeds. Im a bit reluctant to use some thing other than OEM fluid if it’s not something I drive every day so I can’t tell if the shifting is acting funny. Mercron ULV (Ultra Low Viscosity) says right on the bottle it’s designed for fuel efficiency. Lol.
 

Burla

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At least it has a dip stick, or you doing the raise the transmission fluid change or something else?
 

Rayzaa

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Before purchasing their maintenance deal, id have asked these questions first.
 

U&A

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At least it has a dip stick, or you doing the raise the transmission fluid change or something else?
I know its still before 12noon here but im misunderstanding the question. :anitoof:

Truck has been sitting all night so all the fluid runs out of the torque converter as much as possible anyway. Get the best accurate reading of fluid level.

Pulling the dipstick to check where the fluid level is at first. Then I will drop the plastic pan ( that’s right all the new transmissions have plastic pans) and change the one sump filter. Apparently the gasket for the transmission is reusable on this one. Guess we’ll find out.

The sump filter is clam-shelled plastic with a pleated filter. It looks like an air filter. No stupid press on seal for the trans filter tube like our trans on the RFE’s anyway. Just a slip on rubber……giggity…;)

I also leave all the transmission fluid out in the garage overnight so it’s the same temperature as the fluid in the trans so the levels are the same. Don’t let fluid temperature differences screw your fluid levels because it makes a difference.

I’ll show some pictures later tonight. Trying to get this done so we can go do some downhill mountain biking as a families later today and tomorrow is canoeing and kayaking.
 
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