Hemi395
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Oil Analyzers is owned by Amsoil so there's that...
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Mobil 1 EP is excellent motor oil. For the price, it doesn't get any better.so what flavor of mobil 1 is everyone using EP ? I am reading good things about EP flavor
It's not possible to hear an audible difference by switching from one oil to the other. It's called cognitive bias.It went OK, wasn't super rattley/noisy but both RL and HPL are quieter.
Looking at your Blackstone UOA, Red Line didn't perform any better or worse than Mobil 1 FS 0W-40 in your HEMI. That means that the HEMI is an engine that just needs good clean oil and a decent filter, and sane OCIs to run for a very long time. Provided you didn't get a batch of bad lifters, of course.The UOA looked pretty good:
Lubegard BioTech is not an additive snake-oil, it's a mild top treatment for your motor oil. In practice it ads a negligible amount of improvement, if any, to an already awesome motor oil - Mobil 1 FS 0W-40.I just prefer an oil that has everything in it instead of having to add LG or whatever
I hope you realize that HPL motor oils are formulated by the same person who formulated many of the oils that Mobil is selling, including Mobil 1 FS 0W-40. HPL is very good oil, but it can't make your engine sound any different than Mobil 1 or any other oil. You'd need to go down to using something else than motor oil to get a HEMI to sound any different. A HEMI has large noisy rocker arms and noisy injectors, so people think the hear all kinds of stuff when they listen to it. It's trashy, but by no means is it a bad engine.I like how quiet it's now running too since switching to HPL.
Blackstone is unable to measure fuel dilution. They have a history of giving bad advice in those "interpretations" they write. A real tribologist should write those notes, not the lab assistant that ran the sample.What facts do you have to back up the claim that Blackstone UOA's are full of inaccuracies?
Nope, they're not owned by AMSOIL. Oil Analyzers is Polaris Labs. AMSOIL just like to put their brand on the kits they re-sell, just like on everything else they do. Do you really think that AMSOIL blends their own oil? Nope, they don't, especially their API licensed and the Euro oils they sell. All of that is shipped to them by rail and all they do is put it in bottles with their name on it. It's marketing at its finest. Anyway, it's harder to get a Polaris Labs account. Oil Analyzers is cheaper, and the sample goes straight to Polaris. Also, it would foolish for AMSOIL to tamper with customes' oil samples or results. Don't you think?Oil Analyzers is owned by Amsoil so there's that...
What causes that warm idle tick?The dangerous tick is warm idle lifter tick, if it ticks when oil and engine is warm.
It's not possible to hear an audible difference by switching from one oil to the other. It's called cognitive bias.
Some people are only ever going to hear what they want and not actual fact. Not worth the energy it takes to try and steer them otherwise.One of my hobbies is high end audio, I'm well aware of confirmation bias. I do however have very good ears. Not only can I hear it, you yourself can actually hear it too on several YT videos floating around comparing the engine noise running one oile (I believe it was amsoil) vs Redline.
I suggest you dig deep down for some humility and try your own experiments, you may actually learn something!
Off the topic a bit but What year is your Harley? I have a 2021 Road glide with the M8, it rattles a bit on cold starts then quiets down. Currently using Mobil 1 V Twin but thinking on trying Redline 20-50 once to see if it runs quieter or have heard some say that adding some Lube Gard Biotech will quiet them down also.
weird one, silicone and aluminum in base visc 6 and nothing else. Some silicones have some type of plating effect, but I'm sure this would mess up your wear portion of your uoa. It is not only this one, but a couple more aluminum motor oil additives out there. I have no opinion on it at this point. I would be curious to micron ratings.
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Well guess I will check out Cummins oil test kits next time..Blackstone is unable to measure fuel dilution. They have a history of giving bad advice in those "interpretations" they write. A real tribologist should write those notes, not the lab assistant that ran the sample.
For the last 15,000 miles or so I was using Amsoil SS 0W-40 year round. While I have no complaints on it's performance, I decided to switch to a dedicated winter and summer oil, primarily because going with a 5,000 mile OCI means I change my oil twice a year anyway.amsoil 0w30 ss looks like a good hemi oil.
5k OCI on Amsoil seems shorter than getting your money's worth, is that more time based with the seasonal switch?For the last 15,000 miles or so I was using Amsoil SS 0W-40 year round. While I have no complaints on it's performance, I decided to switch to a dedicated winter and summer oil, primarily because going with a 5,000 mile OCI means I change my oil twice a year anyway.
So this fall I switched to SS 0W-30 and will use SS 5W-30 next spring for the warmer months.
I only have about 1,500 miles on the 0W-30 but so far so good. Engine is quiet throughout all operating conditions and temperatures so at this point I have to agree with you.
5k OCI on Amsoil seems shorter than getting your money's worth, is that more time based with the seasonal switch?
Oh I've been here through most of it. 5k still seems short for a higher cost oil is all I'm saying, a cheaper oil would "likely" have similar protection for those OCI.It's more Hemi-based. Read back about the poor oiling to the lifter rollers & sensitivity of oil flow to contaminants. This is not about how long the oil lasts.
Oh I've been here through most of it. 5k still seems short for a higher cost oil is all I'm saying, a cheaper oil would "likely" have similar protection for those OCI.
Oh I've been here through most of it. 5k still seems short for a higher cost oil is all I'm saying, a cheaper oil would "likely" have similar protection for those OCI.
Amen to that!How much did you pay for your truck? Because these things go between 45k to 80k. Let's say you pay 50k for a nice Ram, are we really quibling about an extra 30 bucks twice a year for a top tier oil? I spend more on coffee in the drive through during that time period when it'd be far cheaper to make it at home.
Sometimes we're are our own worst enemy. I get it, I have the same instincts when it comes to not wasting money, but when it comes to my truck I've long accepted that it's going to cost a few bucks extra every month for proper gas (89 to 91) and proper oil.
After you make that decision and mentally set aside the budget for it, it hurts less when the time comes to put the cash on the counter