The Ram 1500 Classic Was a Strange Experiment — But It Worked

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The Ram 1500 Classic Was a Strange Experiment — But It Worked​

Story by Zac Palmer
5 min read


When the pickup truck we now know as the Ram 1500 Classic first entered production, George W. Bush was still president of the United States. Its sales life stretched across touched three decades before Ram finally announced its discontinuation back in August of this year, as the new Hurricane-powered 2025 Ram 1500 hit the market. Simply put, it was the truck that simply wouldn’t die.

A 16-year lifetime is shockingly long for any vehicle, but the Classic's story is a strange one by any sort of modern new-car standard. It officially shifted from oddball dinosaur to automotive anomaly back in 2019, when Ram decided to keep producing it (in Warren, Michigan) simultaneously with the totally new Ram 1500 (built in Sterling Heights, MI) at a plant literally less than 10 miles down the road from the new truck’s assembly line. And this wasn’t just a single model year overlap; Ram produced the previous generation 1500 throughout the entire lifespan of the next-gen pickup. Imagine if you could still buy the previous-generation C7 Chevrolet Corvette brand-new off the dealer lot today, warranty and all. That would be weird, right?

Effectively, that’s what Ram’s been up to. Yes, there was a refresh in the mid-2010s, but the Ram 1500 Classic is essentially a pre-Obama truck still being sold in 2024. The man who led development for the original DS-generation Ram 1500 (later renamed Classic) was Carl Lally, and he’s still with Ram today. Here in late 2024, Lally goes by the fancier title of Vice President Global Ram Sales, but there’s no person more qualified to talk Ram Classic than him.

“The time that we rolled that thing out it was like three or four presidents ago,” Lally recalls. “It’s one of those trivia questions, like, who was president when that truck was introduced?”

Fast forward to the introduction of the next-generation Ram 1500 for the 2019 model year, which the moment when the 1500 went from simply a great-riding pickup to the king of all luxury trucks. It was a sea change that caused other truck manufacturers to step up their refinement efforts to match the Ram on the playing field. That transition upwards had another effect, though; prices jumped, and Ram dropped the entry-level Tradesman trim.

“When we launched the new Ram 1500, the DT generation, as we call it back in 2018 for the 2019 model year, it made all the sense in the world to keep that DS generation of the truck around,” Lally explained. “Felt that it really made a lot of sense to let us continue to go after the value-oriented buyer. At that lower end, the vocational oriented buyer, looking for a Tradesman type of work truck.”

Ram plainly told us that it doesn’t break out sales between the Classic and other Rams, but the Classic’s presence on the market for so many years tells the story. Dealers ordered the Classic in droves to serve more budget-oriented new truck buyers; fleets saw it as a great way to get brand-new trucks on a proven platform. If you wanted a two-door regular cab Ram half-ton, it was the only way to get one.

The Classic was a low-investment pickup for Ram, allowing prices to stay low and, presumably, profits to roll in. But Ram didn't leave it to wither away, either. The company saw fit to add an off-road Warlock trim for 2021, an the 8.4-inch UConnect 4 infotainment system arrived as an option that year, too. Then just one year later, UConnect 5 joined the party, bringing wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. (We bet engineers didn’t have that on the product roadmap when this truck was conceived.)

“So there were minor changes,” Lally told Road & Track. “But it was, I would say, generally, you know, not that heavy investment because whenever we wanted to showcase new technology, the new truck lends itself to that.”

Beyond product updates, one of the toughest parts about selling two trucks that look similar and have the same basic name was simple customer education.

“We had to explain to our dealers and then obviously, explain to the customers, that we've got two trucks called the Ram 1500 of the same model year, but they're not the same truck,” Lally says. “So there's some natural opportunity for confusion there. If you go back to 2018-2019, I think we really had a bit of a learning curve to kind of figure that out over time.”

Truck enthusiasts figured things out quickly enough, and the multi-pronged pickup approach helped Ram put together some epic years of truck sales; it managed to beat the Chevrolet Silverado from 2019–2022, only giving up its second-place throne in 2023.

When asked if Ram would be open to employing the “Classic” strategy into the future, though, Lally squashed the idea.

“So I would take the scenario that we're now looking at, with just the one truck that has this compelling offering at the lower end,” Lally starts. “I think that's the ideal way to do it. Classic was the right answer at that time, but I would stick with where we are today I think, as far as how we move forward.”

The new DT-generation Ram 1500 Tradesman, which is replacing the Classic at the lower end of the lineup.© Stellantis
The compelling offer at the lower end Lally is talking about is the 2025 model year Tradesman (pictured above) that starts at $42,270. For comparison’s sake, that’s only $1,570 more than the totally stripper-spec 2024 Ram 1500 Classic Tradesman. Of course, the new one has a laundry list of additional features and standard equipment compared to the old version, not to mention the option of the potent Hurricane twin-turbo inline-six instead of the 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6.

With the price gap being as small as it is and the equipment gap being as wide as it is, Lally said that the time was right to finally say goodbye to the Classic. It’s an argument that’s tough to disagree with; the last real leg Ram’s Classic has to stand on is the 5.7-liter Hemi V-8, which is still available in the Classic but not in the refreshed 2025 pickup. But it’s officially the end of the line now — and with that we bid adieu to what was easily one of the strangest automotive sales experiments of the 21st century.


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View attachment 554152View attachment 554153We looked at everything available in 19.The only thing that I wanted was a 8’ bed,some chrome and a V8 that could accept 7-8 lbs without lower end work.The thin metal and rotary shifter weak trans and - that’s all I got. it’s a tradesman and was cheap,my 09 Silverado work truck had a dog of a v6 and crank windows.
@Dan Topp: Sir, as I look at the pic of yer hemi, right side of the engine, hmmmmmmmmmm, seems like an added part not in a stock motor, hmmmm, lol. You turning 12's with it?
 

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I will not be buying Ram DT

I have had 2 DS Dodge Ram 1500 SLT Quad Cab,
both were New
a 2009 Dodge Ram SLT, i still see it driving by.
& now the 2016 Ram Bighorn SLT

Neither of them left me stranded & the 2009 broke down with a bad rear end, it was 100% the dealers fault.

I can not have a vehicle that is longer than a Quad Cab, anything longer & i would be partially blocking a sidewalk.

I dislike foreign vehicles, but the TRD, may be in my future, or not.

I can see myself in something like this

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It would not matter if it had the Wide Rear Window or not

although Ghost Flames would make it stand out
Me too but when I need a real truck and I’m on a trip to Seney wildlife area and the roads have 12” deep ruts I need something without drag radials.IMG_1994.jpeg
 

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@Dan Topp: Sir, as I look at the pic of yer hemi, right side of the engine, hmmmmmmmmmm, seems like an added part not in a stock motor, hmmmm, lol. You turning 12's with it?
My shop tells me I’m at the torque limit of the 8 hp 70 (516) so I wouldn’t deliberately beat on it but passing ect it’s better.The headers and exhaust I am told will decrease the boost a little but waiting for the tuner before I can do it.The D1 is quieter then all the others I’ve had.IMG_0100.jpeg
 

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My shop tells me I’m at the torque limit of the 8 hp 70 (516) so I wouldn’t deliberately beat on it but passing ect it’s better.The headers and exhaust I am told will decrease the boost a little but waiting for the tuner before I can do it.The D1 is quieter then all the others I’ve had.View attachment 554335
Guess You could change up. Put on high rise manifold and monster blower popping outta hood but me thinks tranny and rear really be screaming lol.
 

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My shop tells me I’m at the torque limit of the 8 hp 70 (516) so I wouldn’t deliberately beat on it but passing ect it’s better.The headers and exhaust I am told will decrease the boost a little but waiting for the tuner before I can do it.The D1 is quieter then all the others I’ve had.View attachment 554335
With proper tuning and lots of torque management the 70 is pretty reliable up to about 700,but it needs lots of torque management on the shifts
 

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Watch this short little 2 minute video Dan,and listen to the 2-3 shift at the end,you need at least that much torque management if not more to keep a stock 70 alive once you're above 500hp.

 

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All that SPEED & it can't drive over a 2 X 4
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I know this is insignificant but due to the location of the 5.7 oil filter,I never thought of changing the filter in the middle of a cycle mainly because we travel alot with the ram.I couldn’t bring myself to change at 1500 before a 2k trip and decided to make the switch from a xp fram to a 10-48 RP. At 3500 now and the oil looks great. I guess better late then never to learn .Altogether I lost 1/2 qt.in the messy swap.
 

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Great article. I think Ram should continue it. Toyota does it with the 70 series Land Cruiser in certain markets and it would be a good option since we know how successful the 4th Gen Ram was.
 

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If Stellantis was not condensing their Operations.

They would have continued with the 4th Gen Rams, it was almost pure Profit & until recently, i believe it was close to matching the 5th Gen Rams in sales.

To me, i would buy a new 4th Gen body style, Longggg before i would buy a 5th Gen

They will continue building the 4th Gen Heavy Duty models.
Those Metal Stamps from Warren Michigan, will get sent down to Saltillo.
Of course they still have the 4th Gen metal stamps, from both PLants

If they were really adventurous, they could start a new Mopar Company,
Selling brand new 4th Gen body parts.

Mill Supply & Raybuck Auto Parts are only making Patch Panels for the 4th Gen Ram
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Fourth Gen and the HEMI for me all the way or NO way!!! Red , white and blue for the WIN!!!! Eventually I will sell the blue RAM but I am in no big hurry.
 

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I bought a used 2023 RAM 1500 classic recently because it's the only real standard cab utility pick-up I could find. In 2023, the only option as far as bed size was 8 feet. That's okay, I only need it to haul farm supplies and such. I'm retired and wanted a older classic truck but the wife say's "buy the RAM, it's still under warranty",so I did. I like pretty much everything about it except the electronic rotary shifter. Just strange. With the hemi and the 8-foot bed, it may be worth something in the futre. Hope it works out. I still really would like an old 60's Chevy C-10 sidestep with a manual transmission. I learned to drive on that truck back in 1974. Hot dog. Anyway, I like the look of my classic RAM. It's a nice driving truck and was affordable.
 
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You will get used to the rotary shifter. My old Ford I had for 31 years when I bought the Ram was a granny gear 4 speed, and my other truck, I still have, is a '94 Dodge 2500 automatic with a V-10.

After 2 1/2 years, I have pretty much quit mashing the non-existent clutch and grabbing for the shifter in the floor, or the column shifter in the 2500s case.

I do need to quit spinning the shifter like it's a safe dial though.
 

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I always rested my hand on the gear shift. Now what have i got? Nothing. I do like the bench style seat, as I keep the drop-down console up. In 1975 we had a brand-new F-150. We all thought, what a piece of junk, everthing seemed to vibrate. Now I wish I had it and the old C-10, which, at last sighting was still running down in Miami Mo. My last two trucks were both Ford Rangers. Both work trucks with manual transmission. Both lasted forever with virtually no repairs outside of front bearings and an oil pan gasket. I guess I've pretty good over the years. So this Ram Classic is my last truck venture. When I said that to to dealer that sold me the Ram, He laughed, said sure it is.
 

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Watch this short little 2 minute video Dan,and listen to the 2-3 shift at the end,you need at least that much torque management if not more to keep a stock 70 alive once you're above 500hp
He sounds Like Rick Junior!!
 
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