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1500Hoosier

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2021 1500 Hemi 4x4. I will be hauling a 6'x12' U-Haul trailer from Northern Colorado to Somerset, KY. Almost all of the trip is Interstate Highway.
My truck came with the class IV receiver hitch, Electronic Roll-Mitigation and Stability-Control, Trailer Sway Damping and Trailer Brake-Controller. Is the tow/haul feature something I should use on the highway?
 

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2021 1500 Hemi 4x4. I will be hauling a 6'x12' U-Haul trailer from Northern Colorado to Somerset, KY. Almost all of the trip is Interstate Highway.
My truck came with the class IV receiver hitch, Electronic Roll-Mitigation and Stability-Control, Trailer Sway Damping and Trailer Brake-Controller. Is the tow/haul feature something I should use on the highway?
How much will the trailer and cargo weigh?
 

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U-Haul says the trailer weights 1,920 lbs. I'm loading mostly furniture, maybe 600 lbs.
Probably don't need it when out on the flat freeway, but you will want it in the mountains. I hauled one of their 12' cargo trailers from AR to AZ in March, but I put probably 2000# of household goods in it so I just used the T/H all the way. I would use it if I were towing more than ~2000#.
 

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I hauled the same trailer with more weight from Weld County to east TN with my 2001 1500 w/360 w/out Tow/Haul with no problem, and I've done the same route with my 2018 w/Tow/Haul pulling my 11K# 5th wheel. You're probably going to like it when you get into the rolling hills of Kansas and Missouri, assuming you're taking I-70. It will drop your MPG a little because you may not even hit top gear, but it helps keep your speed up going uphill. Most importantly, if your transmission is changing gears a lot, T/H will help reduce that so your transmission doesn't overheat. In conjunction with the cruise control, it will also gear down for you going downhill to use engine braking to save your brakes, assuming the 1500 works like my 2500. Depending on the wind east of Denver and in Kansas, you might need to use T/H on the flats, too, but then again your trailer won't be like the big parachute I tow now.
 

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Just see what the truck is doing at highway speed. If it’s downshifting to 7th gear often, hit the tow haul button…
 

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2021 1500 Hemi 4x4. I will be hauling a 6'x12' U-Haul trailer from Northern Colorado to Somerset, KY. Almost all of the trip is Interstate Highway.
My truck came with the class IV receiver hitch, Electronic Roll-Mitigation and Stability-Control, Trailer Sway Damping and Trailer Brake-Controller. Is the tow/haul feature something I should use on the highway?
So.... I read these replies and it brings to light this:

The Tow/Haul mode is for what purpose?
As a factory trained automatic transmission technician for Ford and GM, I'll weigh in with the facts as I see them:
That function was/is put there for a reason. So, asking for whether or not to use it based on the seat of the pants type thinking is a HUGE blunder.

I replaced/repaired MANY MANY MANY automatic transmissions over the decades for people who would FAIL to use the Tow/Haul function (I can't figure out why), and, when I'd ask them why they didn't while I repaired their truck(s), their response was laughable.
"I just pull a pop up, and it doesn't weigh that much"! And yet, they bar-b-qued the transmission. Consistently.

Weight is NOT the only issue. I'm guessing you will be using an enclosed trailer. If so, there will be a hell of a lot of load from wind resistance, not to mention the weight.

Now to the juicy bits: What exactly happens in the To/Haul mode? First, this tells the PCM that a severe duty set of parameters for the entire vehicle are going to happen.... Extra load on the brakes, the cooling system, the chassis proper, etc.
The PCM will employ the particular algorithm programmed into the operating files for that function to mitigate damage.

Put on your reading glasses and seek the information in the owner's manual for whether or not you need to use the function for your particular event. Asking the buddies at the country club is risky at best.

Some of the stories I've heard of how a guy didn't use the function and got away with it evoke thoughts of dumb luck, perhaps, or maybe there was damage done that was not perceived or had any symptoms immediately, only to be someone else's problem when the truck is traded or sold.

Based upon my own knowledge and training, I always err on the side of caution. I have always used the function of Tow/Haul any time I load up my SUV, or pull a trailer. I had a 1976 Suburban that I retrofitted a TH700R4 into. I thrashed that truck with all the towing/hauling I did (a heck of a lot) for north of 100,000 miles. I sold that truck to a fellow employee several years later. That trans was still functioning perfectly years later.

Did I burn more fuel doing that? Yup! In today's world, a trans costs what? 8 Grand on your truck? My thinking is that I can buy a LOT of gas for 8 thousand dollars! Cheers! And Happy trails! :)
 

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Tow/Haul holds gear longer, and drops gear when braking to provide some engine braking, that's it. It allows the engine to get in to the upper RPM's where the power is made. Really don't need to use it with any weight you are towing, but it's helpful in rolling hills and mountains where you'll want to stay in a lower gear longer going uphill, and have "some" engine braking coming down hill.

It's not like older trucks where it locks out overdrive gears, where overdrive was an additional unit bolted to the output shaft of a 3/4/5 speed transmission.
 

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It’s there for a reason. Use it!! I used to have a F550 company provided work truck. We had 600 of these exact same trucks in the fleet. I used my T-H religiously. Others laughed at me. I never fried a transmission. Others fried multiples. A lot of Ford owners complain about their transmissions failing. I always wonder if they ever use T-H.
 

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It’s there for a reason. Use it!! I used to have a F550 company provided work truck. We had 600 of these exact same trucks in the fleet. I used my T-H religiously. Others laughed at me. I never fried a transmission. Others fried multiples. A lot of Ford owners complain about their transmissions failing. I always wonder if they ever use T-H.
A lot of folks who don't know what they don't know think they are smarter than the engineers!
 

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2021 1500 Hemi 4x4. I will be hauling a 6'x12' U-Haul trailer from Northern Colorado to Somerset, KY. Almost all of the trip is Interstate Highway.
My truck came with the class IV receiver hitch, Electronic Roll-Mitigation and Stability-Control, Trailer Sway Damping and Trailer Brake-Controller. Is the tow/haul feature something I should use on the highway?

we live just outside of somerset ky. you moving here or just making a trip?
 

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Tow/Haul holds gear longer, and drops gear when braking to provide some engine braking, that's it. It allows the engine to get in to the upper RPM's where the power is made. Really don't need to use it with any weight you are towing, but it's helpful in rolling hills and mountains where you'll want to stay in a lower gear longer going uphill, and have "some" engine braking coming down hill.

It's not like older trucks where it locks out overdrive gears, where overdrive was an additional unit bolted to the output shaft of a 3/4/5 speed transmission.

only time i use it is when i'm in an area with hills. On straight flat roads, i turn it off. T/H uses more gas anyways.
 

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U mean that funny juice needed to make the skinny pedal work? lol.

Almost 6K truck, V8 motor me thinks fuel mpg be last on list lol.
 

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Funny, though..... they sure do gripe about fuel consumption!
Yeah, that's always kind of made me chuckle. Buy a Hemi, complain that you never get better than 15 MPG. Personally, I didn't see much change when I bought this truck compared to my 2000 Silverado 1500 4x4 that I had previously. At one point early on, I got 19 MPG on a 600 mile trip. By 2 years ago I was lucky if I saw 16 MPG. So, no real difference.
 

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This is my 2021 2500 with the 6.4 and 3:73 gears. This is a whole bunch BETTER mileage than my 1996 V10 ever did. Same HP and Torque as the V10, just at higher RPM. No idea why a guy wouldn't use T/H when needed. The little extra fuel is more than offset by how much easier running higher revs is on everything else.

My car has a V8 too, and gets WAY better mileage than this, but you can't pull 15,000 Lbs with the car. Nor does it like rutted dirt trails.

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Car for comparison

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This is my 2021 2500 with the 6.4 and 3:73 gears. This is a whole bunch BETTER mileage than my 1996 V10 ever did. Same HP and Torque as the V10, just at higher RPM. No idea why a guy wouldn't use T/H when needed. The little extra fuel is more than offset by how much easier running higher revs is on everything else.

My car has a V8 too, and gets WAY better mileage than this, but you can't pull 15,000 Lbs with the car. Nor does it like rutted dirt trails.

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Car for comparison

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All of the stats R nice but TBH regardless of mpg to give U dat happy feeling; If U wanna go U gotta pay or use LPC’s. (Leather personnel carriers) otherwise known as shoes/boots.
 

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