Toyo AT3 vs Falken Wildpeak AT3W

[truck2014]

The A/T Coopers I'm running are working out fine for my tk's (not AT3's though).

I went to a tire dealer last fall and 'felt' a pr of AT3's that I was considering for another vehicle. I was concered by the looks of the sidewall they might be a little stiff for what I wanted, for mostly hwy driving. These were 285/75/16's (basically 33" tall tires) for a H3. Because it's almost impossible to glean meaningful specs anymore from tire mfgrs websites, you almost gotta see and 'feel' a tire in person to know what you're really getting. I've installed, balanced/mounted a lot of tires in my day. Anywhooo.... I looked and felt (by hand) the tire over real well. Turns out the sidewalls are more pliable than I imagined they would be. They're about right for a DD. That should translate into a decent ride, not too much choppiness. Be able to handle some sensible off-road airing down too. That's not to say the sidewalls are super soft either. But they're not real stiff like a heavy-duty tire is.

I ended up going with Hankook D/P AT2's at the end of the day due to some sales and a few other tire features. But mostly I wanted to 'try' a set of D/P-2's, which I hadn't run before. (I like to try out different products). The Hankook's have a rim-protecting recessed bead, whereas the AT3's don't. I liked the tread pattern of the Hankook's better for my use (deeper snow), plus each tread block on the HKs extend all the way to the carcass (no raised 'bridges'!). Pretty sure the AT3's would be a touch quieter than the HK's by looks of the Coop's tread pattern. It's similar to other Coopers I have which are super-quiet.

But I was impressed with the AT3's. Cooper makes a great product. Perhaps I'll try them the next go-round on different rig. At the end of the day you just gotta do your research. You'll go nuts listening to various people say "this tire is the best" or "that tire sucks" ..which are kind of meaningless w/o detailed info (why) which we never get. LOL. There are more good truck tires out there than ever before.

I have never had a favorite truck tire , the industry is always changing , kinda hoping these Coopers perform well. As said not a great fan of the Toyo's , possibly the AT3's are a better tire ,their AT2's did not perform well for me . I didn't do a great amount of research on truck tires , there are a few major players ,but lots ,and lots of choices . One I considered was the Sailun Terramax AT's, great price . I have a friend that ran them , towing a big fifth wheel ,and was happy with them , a 5 rib All terrain like most of the others . If anyone knows Sailun , and has run their S637 RV tire knows the quality of Sailun . I run the S637's on my fifth wheel .

 

[truck2014]

I just did a pretty deep dive and even found some other contenders - Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T and BF Goodrich KO2. It seems each of the manufacturers make a solid tire but they all have various pros/cons.

Weight and durability go hand-in-hand (but weight will kill MPGs due to being on the wheels). Generally, thicker sidewalls = more weight which is better for rocks/gravel. The Mickey Thompsons are the heaviest and toughest, followed closely by the BF Goodrich. Those are both off my list since I rarely drive on rocks/gravel (but I mention them in case anyone wants/needs that). I'm more looking for wet and snow traction and it looks like the Coopers or Falkens are the best. Toyo is in there too but is more expensive and doesn't seem to have as high of highs as the other two. Falkens are a bit heavier and tougher so I guess it's just a decision of how much I need. I'm 90% on paved roads, 5% snow/ice covered and maybe 5% gravel (if that).

The Falkens at 61# are a bit heavier than the Coopers at 54# and I'm just not sure I need the extra sidewall durability (thanks again @truck2014 for mentioning those Coopers!).

In the end this is totally splitting hairs as every tire mentioned looks to be a nice product. One thing that is funny is in the reviews they all talk about snow/mud/water evacuation and tread depth but as the tires wear that all goes away.... so? Any newer tire is going to be worlds better than even a 40% worn tire? I guess so... and I must be naive for not putting more stock in that previously. I guess it's like marrying a hot, skinny girl and then..... well, never mind, this isn't going anywhere good

What I can say about the Coopers , they are my third set on my 2014 Ram 3500, and the first thing I noticed was the handling , and tracking , especially when I was hooked up to my fifth wheel . My truck is used mostly for towing the fifth wheel . Rest of the time it sits . I get it out once a week just to run it . As far as quiet , they are pretty quiet , my Toyo's were also pretty quiet . I never noticed anymore noise with the Toyo's or these Coopers ,than my stock Firestone HT's .

What I have read ,and observed with my Ram to a point is that they are a bit tough on tires , what I also have read is the factory toe setting on these Rams are also a factor in excessive wear . Although I have experienced pretty even wear on my tires , but that's probably got a lot to do with frequent rotation . As I think I pointed out toe should be 0 - .05 . My drag link as said was replaced last week on recall , and my toe is now set at .02. Hopefully I will see a bit better tire wear , but I can't expect as good towing a fifth wheel as I would running empty ,but that's what the truck was bought for . Good luck with your choice , but as said I can't say anything bad about these Coopers ,been on now for over a year ,and looking good .

 

[malonerory]

I run Toyo ATIII 325/65/18 on a 2500 Diesel, they have around 15k on them and I have zero complaints. They are not at all loud on the road and for being on a diesel they grip decently in snow and ice. You cannot go wrong with either brand, they are both great manufacturers.

 

[Shine006]

I have Falkens LT275 65r20’s on mine and they have never let me down on the farm or snow. For E tires ride is great.

 

[runamuck]

the Falken AT3 came on my '19 laramie. after 26000 miles they still didnt look worn. good grip rain or snow and quiet on the highway. just traded that truck for a '22 laramie 2500 with the transforce tires and plan to swap on a new set of the Falkens as soon as I get over the financial hickey of the purchase.

 

[Pudge]

Falken Wildpeak for me too on my Power Wagon. Wearing even, they ride good, little road noise, all round great tire. They have been good to me for traction through two winters. It’ll be what I go back to when I need to replace this set.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Another vote for Wildpeaks My 37s have been great so far.

 

[Jeepwalker]

So....MTOfell, have you bought a tire yet, or gotten closer to a 'winner'?

 

[mtofell]

So....MTOfell, have you bought a tire yet, or gotten closer to a 'winner'?

Just ordered the Coopers today from Discount Tire. $1275 out the door. I think I might get a $75 rebate so $1200 is not too bad I suppose. I've got some things to work out with the alignment and am taking it to the dealer next week and have an appointment for the tires next Friday assuming the dealer gets the draglink, etc. worked out and my truck aligned.

It was really close between the Coopers and the Falkens but I ultimately went with the Coopers since I just don't need as rugged (or heavy) of a tire. I basically never drive on rocks or gravel exept in some very rare instance and it's pretty mild "off road" at that point. My truck is mainly just a pavement beast and rain/snow traction is the most important. LOVE the snowflake rating so I'm compliant in the mountains without chaining up or swapping tires.

Thanks again everyone!!!

 

[Jeepwalker]

I think you'll be plenty happy with them. They have pretty deep tread too. OWL's out?? (C'mon! ) ..lol