Toyo AT3 vs Falken Wildpeak AT3W

[mdbuilder]

275/70-18 M55s. Been running Toyo M55 tires since 1995. In all that time I've never had a flat tire - never.

 

[Jrod]

I'm on my second set of Falken AT3. The tires are great in Northern VA. My only gripe is the aggressive sidewall slinging tire shine all up the sides of my truck... Regardless, the tires perform as good as they look! I'm due for new tires before next winter and I was considering Toyo AT3 only because the sidewalls look less aggressive.. I haven't seen a set to verify, but if they are just as aggressive I will buy another set of Falken AT3's.

 

[SpaceRanger1]

I have had (2) sets of Toyo AT 2's, and Im on a set of Toyo AT 3's now... Havent gotten anything lower than 78K on any of them. Looking at a set of Mickey Thomson Baha Legend EXP's.. deeper tread and $30.00 per tire.

 

[Jeepwalker]

I have personally never had bad luck running any Japanese tire brand. And I've run many over the years. I ran a lot of Bridgestones for yrs. Even the Firestones I've run (I know they had the Explorer incident ..but) the sets I've had were smooth running). Of course any mfgr can had problems, maybe it's just been luck.

Falkens are made by Sumitomo Rubber which ranked #5 in worldwide tire sales, 2021. They also manufacture the brands of Dunlop Tires (certain markets), and Ohtsu Tire. So being a large company also "usually" means good access to corporate training, R&D, new technology, better/newer better machines, and "hopefully" better QC.

The Largest Tire Manufacturers in the World (New)

As of 2021, the Michelin is the world's largest tire manufacturer, followed by Bridgestone (Japan), Continental (Germany), Goodyear (United States) and Sumitomo (Japan).

www.carlogos.org

[EDIT] Sumitomo also owns TBC brands (Palm Beach, FL) which owns NTB & Big-O tires (and some others), and all the no-name tires that TBC owns. These are all tires made on the same machines, some with different features, but mostly different marketing niches/outlets. Names include:

• CrossWind
• DELTA
• DELUXE TUBES
• ELDORADO
• HARVEST KING
• MULTI-MILE
• NAVITRAC
• POWER KING
• PRINX
• SAILUN
• SUMITOMO
• TOWMAX
• TOWSTAR
• TRAILER KING

It's a global industry. They didn't get to be #5 selling one brand of tire. I have a set of Multi-Mile tires on my plow Jeep for a few yrs which are working out great so far!

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[mtofell]

So, as I said upthread, I ended up with the Cooper AT3 and am very pleased. I just road tripped from Portland down to Vegas over the last couple days and had a chance to really get familiar with the tires. The weather was generally dry but there was some rain at times. Overall, I'm very pleased and initially might like them a hair better than Toyos I've run in the past. It's just so tough to really compare tires since it's not back to back. Also, the ones that were just replaced were essentially worn out so the new ones almost have to feel much better.

I think the Coopers might be a bit quieter which is nice. The grip and overall ride are great. I've done the drive through Nevada a few times over the years but I always forget just how fast you can go. The speed on one long stretch of road was 80MPH! I had my cruise set at 88....lol. Passing some big rigs I got up to 100 a couple times and was impressed with the tires (and truck for that matter). Something I didn't even consider when I purchased tires was the speed rating but I checked at a break and was happy to see it's 112MPH.

Anyway, thanks again to everyone for the help and especially @truck2014 for turning me onto the Coopers. After all of the research I think a lot of it comes down to what you need from the tire. I'm on pavement 99% of the time so the Coopers are great. As your needs for off-road increase you might consider some more rugged (and heavier/more expensive) options.

 

[truck2014]

So, as I said upthread, I ended up with the Cooper AT3 and am very pleased. I just road tripped from Portland down to Vegas over the last couple days and had a chance to really get familiar with the tires. The weather was generally dry but there was some rain at times. Overall, I'm very pleased and initially might like them a hair better than Toyos I've run in the past. It's just so tough to really compare tires since it's not back to back. Also, the ones that were just replaced were essentially worn out so the new ones almost have to feel much better.

I think the Coopers might be a bit quieter which is nice. The grip and overall ride are great. I've done the drive through Nevada a few times over the years but I always forget just how fast you can go. The speed on one long stretch of road was 80MPH! I had my cruise set at 88....lol. Passing some big rigs I got up to 100 a couple times and was impressed with the tires (and truck for that matter). Something I didn't even consider when I purchased tires was the speed rating but I checked at a break and was happy to see it's 112MPH.

Anyway, thanks again to everyone for the help and especially @truck2014 for turning me onto the Coopers. After all of the research I think a lot of it comes down to what you need from the tire. I'm on pavement 99% of the time so the Coopers are great. As your needs for off-road increase you might consider some more rugged (and heavier/more expensive) options.

Good to hear , I’ve been very pleased with mine as you know . I’m hooking up the fifth wheel this week , and headed to Montana. IMO that’s where I see the better handling than my previous Toyo’s AT2’s .

 

[Chriscunn]

So, as I said upthread, I ended up with the Cooper AT3 and am very pleased. I just road tripped from Portland down to Vegas over the last couple days and had a chance to really get familiar with the tires. The weather was generally dry but there was some rain at times. Overall, I'm very pleased and initially might like them a hair better than Toyos I've run in the past. It's just so tough to really compare tires since it's not back to back. Also, the ones that were just replaced were essentially worn out so the new ones almost have to feel much better.

I think the Coopers might be a bit quieter which is nice. The grip and overall ride are great. I've done the drive through Nevada a few times over the years but I always forget just how fast you can go. The speed on one long stretch of road was 80MPH! I had my cruise set at 88....lol. Passing some big rigs I got up to 100 a couple times and was impressed with the tires (and truck for that matter). Something I didn't even consider when I purchased tires was the speed rating but I checked at a break and was happy to see it's 112MPH.

Anyway, thanks again to everyone for the help and especially @truck2014 for turning me onto the Coopers. After all of the research I think a lot of it comes down to what you need from the tire. I'm on pavement 99% of the time so the Coopers are great. As your needs for off-road increase you might consider some more rugged (and heavier/more expensive) options.

I have a 2019 1500 limited run 285/45/22 cooper AT3 and I just found out that they are all cupped. Didn’t get 20k out of them.
I was very happy with the ride and traction I got from them. I Rotate and balance every 5k. Don’t trailer or carry loads.
I don’t know if it’s the air ride causing my tire issues or the size of the tire. But I have never run through tires like this before

 

[mtofell]

I have a 2019 1500 limited run 285/45/22 cooper AT3 and I just found out that they are all cupped. Didn’t get 20k out of them.
I was very happy with the ride and traction I got from them. I Rotate and balance every 5k. Don’t trailer or carry loads.
I don’t know if it’s the air ride causing my tire issues or the size of the tire. But I have never run through tires like this before

I'd be checking for an alignment or suspension issue. I can't imagine they always wear out in this manner at 20K.

 

[Jeepwalker]

OP ...good to hear your feedback. Glad they are running out nice for you. Did you get them from Walmart? Are yours AT3 4S? Or just the AT3's?

I have a set of Cooper AT2's which are essentially like the newer Cooper AT3's (non-4S). Mine are the 123S 10-ply-rated version ...on a GM pickup and agree, they're nice tires. Good deep tread. Somewhat soft compound. Sounds like maybe the same tire you bought. Should be a decent winter tire. And I don't know if you can find a better deal when Walmart has them on a good sale (which they do often). AFAIK this is a Walmart only tire. The AT3-4S's you can buy at any retailer.

I also put regular non-10-ply Cooper AT's ...115T rated, exactly the same tread, but a lighter weight street tire (also from Wally-World) on my Ram RCLB. The tires are a lot lighter weight, but a good street tread if ya don't haul/tow much. I don't need heavy-duty tires on my Ram. I had all my wally world tires Road Force balanced and rim-matched at our local GM dealer (i know the guys there). Our local Walmart guys are incompetent at balancing tires and have a real old balancer (probably hasn't been recalibrated ever!). My buddy on the road force balancer literally cut the walmart weight on each tire in half! Not kidding.

Overall the Coops have been great. Hope you get good miles out of yours! Come back in spring and give us your anectodal winter performance round-up.

EDIT: Having closely looked at the Toyo's and Falkens in the past, I wouldn't be afraid to run those either. We're lucky we have a lot of great tires to choose from these days. IDK if there's really a bad product out there (among well known tire brands). Even the China no-name tires I took off my Ram ran out really great.

 

[Chriscunn]

OP ...good to hear your feedback. Glad they are running out nice for you. Did you get them from Walmart? Are yours AT3 4S? Or just the AT3's?

I have a set of Cooper AT2's which are essentially like the newer Cooper AT3's (non-4S). Mine are the 123S 10-ply-rated version ...on a GM pickup and agree, they're nice tires. Good deep tread. Somewhat soft compound. Sounds like maybe the same tire you bought. Should be a decent winter tire. And I don't know if you can find a better deal when Walmart has them on a good sale (which they do often). AFAIK this is a Walmart only tire. The AT3-4S's you can buy at any retailer.

I also put regular non-10-ply Cooper AT's ...115T rated, exactly the same tread, but a lighter weight street tire (also from Wally-World) on my Ram RCLB. The tires are a lot lighter weight, but a good street tread if ya don't haul/tow much. I don't need heavy-duty tires on my Ram. I had all my wally world tires Road Force balanced and rim-matched at our local GM dealer (i know the guys there). Our local Walmart guys are incompetent at balancing tires and have a real old balancer (probably hasn't been recalibrated ever!). My buddy on the road force balancer literally cut the walmart weight on each tire in half! Not kidding.

Overall the Coops have been great. Hope you get good miles out of yours! Come back in spring and give us your anectodal winter performance round-up.

EDIT: Having closely looked at the Toyo's and Falkens in the past, I wouldn't be afraid to run those either. We're lucky we have a lot of great tires to choose from these days. IDK if there's really a bad product out there (among well known tire brands). Even the China no-name tires I took off my Ram ran out really great.

AT3, not from Walmart. Truck is going in for a new fuel tube. Can’t get more than 1/2 a tank in! So while in there I’m having them check out suspension and alignment.
Although when this truck was new I changed to general AT tires and blew through them! I’ve been reading in here a lot of guys switching from 22s to 20s and getting much better life from their tires.
285/45/22 I think they suck! IMO