Transmission service.

[Wild one]

Ugh. Have you actually tested any of this? I know you haven’t.

I did, so maybe if you shut your hole for 5 seconds you can learn something.

Running the truck in park, never blipped the throttle off idle, filled till it leaked, then did all the stuff that you “shall” do, and the fluid never changed.

The procedure is written for someone that did tranny work, since it clearly says not to drain the fluid unless you do a repair.

Your comments are just so dumb. Honestly do you even think before your lips start moving?

Don't look in the mirror bud,as it might slap you upside the head for being an idiot .
BTW you didn't test squat,you did 1 pan drop and fill,and now you consider yourself an expert
There's an interview floating around with one of the top engineers of the 8 speed,where he says ZF does not agree with Mopar on their service reconmendations,and as he states,ZF won't correct Mopar,but ZF considers Mopar to be wrong. Curious if you're so hung up on Mopar being right and ZF being wrong,why are you buying PPE pans and changing the fluid when you clearly have read the owners manual that says the 8 speed doesn't need servicing.Clue me into why all of sudden you think Mopar is wrong,when you've been harping on them being right,this whole thread,and now you're even quoting the manual that says not to drain the fluid,unless the transmission has been worked on/repaired,seems like an oxymoron comment to me.
Just because you're an idiot,doesn't mean everybody else has to be one does it
You also seem to think a flatrate dealer mechanic is doing the job correctly,when in fact,he's doing the job as fast as he can,so he can move onto the next flatrate job.The more jobs he gets done in a day,means the more money in his pocket,so there's alot of short cuts taken in a flatrate dealerships shop.
You know there's days you'd argue the moon doesn't orbit the earth if i said it did,as somehow you've developed a burr up your you know what,if i say it. Not sure what i ever did to make you act like an idiot in regards to things i've said,but it doesn't look good on you
Clue me in so i can get back on your good side,as you seem bound and determined to make me look like you,an idiot
Pretty soon you'll have this thread locked down from your shenigans,but carry on

 

[Bmags]

So your viewpoint is: Mopar is intentionally underfilling, and then they are servicing the incorrect way to get the job done quick, and they are not listening to ZF… So they are 0-3.

Failure at engineering, failure at service, failure at quality… or… they talked to the ZF folks and it was ok.

Kinda seems like the more likely answer is the one where it’s actually fine to do it all level.

But hey, what do I know.

 

[Wild one]

But hey, what do I know.

Apparently very little,when you try to discredit ZF's instructions

 

[Bmags]

Don't look in the mirror bud,as it might slap you upside the head for being an idiot .
BTW you didn't test squat,you did 1 pan drop and fill,and now you consider yourself an expert
There's an interview floating around with one of the top engineers of the 8 speed,where he says ZF does not agree with Mopar on their service reconmendations,and as he states,ZF won't correct Mopar,but ZF considers Mopar to be wrong. Curious if you're so hung up on Mopar being right and ZF being wrong,why are you buying PPE pans and changing the fluid when you clearly have read the owners manual that says the 8 speed doesn't need servicing.Clue me into why all of sudden you think Mopar is wrong,when you've been harping on them being right,this whole thread,and now you're even quoting the manual that says not to drain the fluid,unless the transmission has been worked on/repaired,seems like an oxymoron comment to me.
Just because you're an idiot,doesn't mean everybody else has to be one does it
You also seem to think a flatrate dealer mechanic is doing the job correctly,when in fact,he's doing the job as fast as he can,so he can move onto the next flatrate job.The more jobs he gets done in a day,means the more money in his pocket,so there's alot of short cuts taken in a flatrate dealerships shop.
You know there's days you'd argue the moon doesn't orbit the earth if i said it did,as somehow you've developed a burr up your you know what,if i say it. Not sure what i ever did to make you act like an idiot in regards to things i've said,but it doesn't look good on you
Clue me in so i can get back on your good side,as you seem bound and determined to make me look like you,an idiot
Pretty soon you'll have this thread locked down from your shenigans,but carry on

Well if you have been paying attention I did the first pan since the jeep needed servicing… from a leaking pan.

So… ya… kinda means it needed to be replaced/serviced.

But hey, I get it… you’re old and just like to argue. Some day I’ll get there too, but for now I’d like to learn and share experiences so that others can make their own decisions. If you want to just fuss that’s cool too.

 

[Wild one]

Well if you have been paying attention I did the first pan since the jeep needed servicing… from a leaking pan.

So… ya… kinda means it needed to be replaced/serviced.

But hey, I get it… you’re old and just like to argue. Some day I’ll get there too, but for now I’d like to learn and share experiences so that others can make their own decisions. If you want to just fuss that’s cool too.

What scares me is if anybody actually listens to you.
But enough you've actually got nothing thats even close to being revelant to add to this thread,and i'm pretty sure most guys think you're out to lunch by now,so you carry on.
Have a good evening dude,and we'll catch you on the flipside,if you're lucky and i'm desperate,i'm out as this thread is going nowhere

 

[Bmags]

Ya. Super scary that people follow what the dealer does for service. Oh no! Or that they put in the same amount of fluid they drain out.

Can you imagine such a world????

How dare I return my vehicle to factory condition. That’s absurd.

 

[Wild one]

Ya. Super scary that people follow what the dealer does for service. Oh no! Or that they put in the same amount of fluid they drain out.

Can you imagine such a world????

How dare I return my vehicle to factory condition. That’s absurd.

Maybe i've been going at this wrong,here's a scenerio i hope you can grasp.

Lets take a guy doing an oil change on his truck,and he's let it get a bit down on oli and he only drains 6 quarts instead of 7. The truck ran perfectly fine on 6 quarts and if we subscribe to your theory,he should only put 6 quarts back in,as the truck ran fine on 6,when clearly the instructions say to add 7 quarts.
So should he follow the instructions and add 7 quarts back in,or should he ignore the instructions and add back in 6 quarts,as that's what he drained out?
I'm hoping you can grasp that concept,as you're basically telling everybody 7 quarts isn't needed as the truck ran fine on 6,and that they should ignore the factory engineers and their instructions.
If we subscribe to your theory the engineers who built the transmission are wrong,and their instructions should be ignored,and i'm not so sure that's a wise move in the long run.
I'm trying to be nice here,and hope this makes sense to you

 

[Bmags]

Maybe i've been going at this wrong,here's a scenerio i hope you can grasp.

Lets take a guy doing an oil change on his truck,and he's let it get a bit down on oli and he only drains 6 quarts instead of 7. The truck ran perfectly fine on 6 quarts and if we subscribe to your theory,he should only put 6 quarts back in,as the truck ran fine on 6,when clearly the instructions say to add 7 quarts.
So should he follow the instructions and add 7 quarts back in,or should he ignore the instructions and add back in 6 quarts,as that's what he drained out?
I'm hoping you can grasp that concept,as you're basically telling everybody 7 quarts isn't needed as the truck ran fine on 6,and that they should ignore the factory engineers and their instructions.
If we subscribe to your theory the engineers who built the transmission are wrong,and their instructions should be ignored,and i'm not so sure that's a wise move in the long run.
I'm trying to be nice here,and hope this makes sense to you

Sure, I understand your point. The tranny instructions come from ZF though (who is selling the tranny to every automaker) and Mopar is the one using it in this particular application.

ZF certainly needs to come up with some kind of spec, and saying “level the tranny” works since that’s easy for them to do outside of any end use application. But, that doesn’t mean that other levels are automatically unacceptable.

For instance, let’s say the tranny breather tube is also towards the back of the tranny. In that case maybe the two companies decided that the level should be reduced to prevent the risk of fire from fluid escaping through the breather tube. (A note I have seen in other documentation from ZF on tranny fluid level)

I think it’s unfair to discredit the OEM level as “wrong” without a little more digging. That’s what I’m trying to do. Figure out what we know as baseline

 

[rule18]

Pretty soon you'll have this thread locked down due to all the shenanigans,but carry on

Correct.