True or False:

[My4thRam]

So all these people saying it removes lag or speeds up the signal........why have I never seen an oscilliscope waveform capture of what it actually does to the signal? If they advertise that would someone please post it.

What the signal looks like with and without would probably tell more than they want to.

 

[2012RAM1500RT]

So all these people saying it removes lag or speeds up the signal........why have I never seen an oscilliscope waveform capture of what it actually does to the signal? If they advertise that would someone please post it.

What the signal looks like with and without would probably tell more than they want to.

All I can give you is I am able to adjust it with the push of a button to 9 different settings, I can even put it back to the stock setting with a push of a button. Putting it back to stock just reminds me why I was looking for something to get rid of the lag "in mine" to start with. I can immediately change it back to the sport mode I had it set on and I can tell a definite difference. I don't need it but if I seen the oscilliscope waveform you are talking about and it said I was wrong in what I feel I would simply throw it in the trash and keep smiling while I drive in the sport mode. I guess you can say I'm not a big believer in what a 30 year old scientist says happened a billion years ago.

 

[turboguard]

I think the best way to settle things is to set up a test with two identical trucks, one with PC and one without. Make it to where you can see the butterfly valve open and close, and compare the two.
Would that really be too much work? I would think the companies would WANT to prove their product isn't snake oil in order to sell more of these expensive units.

 

[2012RAM1500RT]

I think the best way to settle things is to set up a test with two identical trucks, one with PC and one without. Make it to where you can see the butterfly valve open and close, and compare the two.
Would that really be too much work? I would think the companies would WANT to prove their product isn't snake oil in order to sell more of these expensive units.

That would be ok but I think the word of mouth from almost every customer I've heard from does it for them. How about the one's who bought a throttle controller and DON'T like it or would remove it because it doesn't work speak up but only if you have tried it!

 

[Marshall]

WTH, I thought you gained 300 hp and had to buy new tires after every week end ? Gee, heart breaking.

 

[67 StingrayJ]

So all these people saying it removes lag or speeds up the signal........why have I never seen an oscilliscope waveform capture of what it actually does to the signal? If they advertise that would someone please post it.

What the signal looks like with and without would probably tell more than they want to.

I too want to see this. If that's what it's actually doing, then they should advertise as such.

 

[2012RAM1500RT]

I too want to see this. If that's what it's actually doing, then they should advertise as such.

Do you not trust yourself? If you feel it yourself is it not real?

 

[67 StingrayJ]

I'm curious how adding more electronics between the pedal and the computer can change the speed at which the computer opens the throttle.

I want to see the programming and what's actually going on in the tune with these things before I'll change my mind. 'you'd understand if you tried one' won't cut it with me

Same here! "SHOW-ME".

 

[67 StingrayJ]

Do you not trust yourself? If you feel it yourself is it not real?

I don't own one. I'd gladly test one and post the results though. I'm looking for a used one. Someone should find a way to connect this thing to a signal readout of some sort analyses the data. Let the data speak for itself. I have been reading up on these things for a while now and I'm skeptical.

And I'm sure has Hades not going to take a vendors word for it. It's a conflict of interest.

 

[2012RAM1500RT]

Same here! "SHOW-ME".

I wish all of the throttle controller dealers would send anyone a controller for them to try at no cost and you only pay for it if you keep it there would be no returns!

 

[2012RAM1500RT]

I don't own one. I'd gladly test one and post the results though. I'm looking for a used one. Someone should find a way to connect this thing to a signal readout of some sort analyses the data. Let the data speak for itself. I have been reading up on these things for a while now and I'm skeptical.

And I'm sure has Hades not going to take a vendors word for it. It's a conflict of interest.

I'm not sure any of us that bought one is making $1 off of telling you our results. I have no other way to prove it other than being honest about my opinion of it.

 

[67 StingrayJ]

I'm not sure any of us that bought one is making $1 off of telling you our results. I have no other way to prove it other than being honest about my opinion of it.

Are you a vendor?

 

[2012RAM1500RT]

Are you a vendor?

I am not, I have nothing to gain in what I'm saying to you. If something works for me I try to spread the word to others that ask

 

[67 StingrayJ]

I am not, I have nothing to gain in what I'm saying to you. If something works for me I try to spread the word to others that ask

And I think many of us have been clear when we say we want to take anyones word for it. If it's that great a product, the data would speak for itself.

 

[2012RAM1500RT]

And I think many of us have been clear when we say we want to take anyones word for it. If it's that great a product, the data would speak for itself.

I have no way to prove anything. I test things for myself, I don't even believe data over my own experience. Good luck in whatever you find that proves anything.

 

[turkeybird56]

FALSE


TRUE


TRUE


EHH, it really changes how the truck feels to drive.


Up for debate


FALSE - truck is not driveable on highest setting. Instant tire spin.


FALSE

GREAT response NICK. DITTO above, but FTR, I do not have a PC installed, just know PPL who do have it.

 

[Hemi395]

If anyone wants proof the PC works, hook up a scan tool that can read throttle voltage. Key on engine off hold the throttle at a set point, say 1/4, then changed the modes on the PC. You will clearly see it changes voltage the PCM sees for throttle input, therefor decreasing throttle lag.

And for those that think you can "do it with your right foot", buy a PC and put it on Sport+ at +4.

 

[2012RAM1500RT]

If anyone wants proof the PC works, hook up a scan tool that can read throttle voltage. Key on engine off hold the throttle at a set point, say 1/4, then changed the modes on the PC. You will clearly see it changes voltage the PCM sees for throttle input, therefor decreasing throttle lag.

And for those that think you can "do it with your right foot", buy a PC and put it on Sport+ at +4.

I don't know how there's any better proof than your own experience! I think the sceptics wants someone to buy it for them. I'm not doing it, just drive your's with the throttle lag and be happy!

 

[caulk04]

Hptuners can do it in the tune. I can do it on my Harley with the Harley tuner, it's just a table of X voltage at the pedal = Y position at the throttle.

I feel like most people mistake the throttle ramp/curve as delay.

 

[Adamcr68]

I don't own one. I'd gladly test one and post the results though. I'm looking for a used one. Someone should find a way to connect this thing to a signal readout of some sort analyses the data. Let the data speak for itself. I have been reading up on these things for a while now and I'm skeptical.

And I'm sure has Hades not going to take a vendors word for it. It's a conflict of interest.

I have dealt with Nick several times, he has great prices, very quick responses & gives lots of options in products. He has ordered parts for me from other company’s when he didn’t have it at cost. He is a great guy & takes care of Ramforum members!