Warlock Lift Explanation - Read this before lifting/leveling your Warlock's

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thanks. I may go with the 2.8 setting and 1 inch in the back. depending on how that works, perhaps the HD spring. appreciate the ideas!
Personally if you're load in the rear is intermittent I would go with the Icon Coils. If it's permanent go with the Superlift SL 140's. :cheers:
 

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I’d be careful with 17x9.5 with 0 offset, you might rub with 315x17. Better to go with 17x9 or 17x8.5 if you want 0 offset or increase your off set.

Do you have 17s or 20? I know factory 20x9 offsetting is 5.25 That’s why I went to method 17x8.5 to get at least 4.5 total, .75 more clearance on the inside. There will be no required trimming but I might anyway on the inside.

It took me a month to chose between Method and Black Rhino.

Just throwing that out there.
Thanks for all the input.

I've actually done multiple lifts over the years, mostly involving Jeep, but I'm working 6-7 days a week right now and just need to get it done

Luckily I found a local shop that actually answered their phone and took the time with me to go over the options. I've got an install booked for the end of this week, Bilstein 5100's all the way around, BFG K02's in a 285/75-17s, roughly a 34" to avoid having to do a bunch of trimming, and a nice set of Method 701s in a 17 x 8.5.

They are going to take care of alignment and headlight adjustment as well.

Crossing fingers but they have a very good reputation and I really enjoyed talking with the guys at the shop.
Hey fella's! How's your fitment working out for you? After I lift mine a couple inches and get the JBA Upper Control Arms, I'm planning to run the Method 701s 17x9 with 35x12.5 tire. Do you see any rubbing issues with the 17x9 wheels or should I get the 8.5?
Thanks!
 

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I'm taking delivery of my new Warlock at the end of this week.

I installed the 5100's in my current 19' Classic Express with the fronts set at 2.1" raised as I still wanted a slight rake forward.

I run LT295/65R20's for my summer set up (equivalent to 35's) and had zero issues with rub.

Now that I'm getting a new Warlock, I will be installing a new set of 5100's on it and will be putting my summer LT295/65R20 tires on the Warlock rims (they are only a season old, so I'll not trade them in with my 19' Classic Express).

I don't haul or two frequently, and if I do it's well within safety specs and not for too long a distance.

I definitely don't want the California sag to the rear, especially when unloaded, and I don't want to have to purchase new upgraded UCA's either. I am also not wanting to use wheel spacers at all.

All this said, is the 2.1" setting on the 5100's going to work with my summer tire set up?

Albeit, my 19' Classic Express 20's are 8" wide and the Warlock 20's are 9" wide.

Thanks for the input.
 

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I'm taking delivery of my new Warlock at the end of this week.

I installed the 5100's in my current 19' Classic Express with the fronts set at 2.1" raised as I still wanted a slight rake forward.

I run LT295/65R20's for my summer set up (equivalent to 35's) and had zero issues with rub.

Now that I'm getting a new Warlock, I will be installing a new set of 5100's on it and will be putting my summer LT295/65R20 tires on the Warlock rims (they are only a season old, so I'll not trade them in with my 19' Classic Express).

I don't haul or two frequently, and if I do it's well within safety specs and not for too long a distance.

I definitely don't want the California sag to the rear, especially when unloaded, and I don't want to have to purchase new upgraded UCA's either. I am also not wanting to use wheel spacers at all.

All this said, is the 2.1" setting on the 5100's going to work with my summer tire set up?

Albeit, my 19' Classic Express 20's are 8" wide and the Warlock 20's are 9" wide.

Thanks for the input.
Generally you need upgraded upper control arms over 2" of lift, so you could set the bils to 2.1 and be fine, but you will only get a little over on inch of lift.
 

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Generally you need upgraded upper control arms over 2" of lift, so you could set the bils to 2.1 and be fine, but you will only get a little over on inch of lift.
Thank you & I'm good with a little height.
I just want it to clear and not rub.
 

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I just installed Rancho 7000 monotube rear shocks on my warlock and they are perfect.
 

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I just had a local shop (in Arizona) install the Bilstein 5100's on my 2021 Ram 1500 Warlock 4X4 (Quad Cab) and when I went to pick it up it was not level… it was about 3 3/4” front and 5 ½” rear, measured from the highest point on the tire to the fender wheel well with a small framing square. They only set it to the next level down from the highest possible setting and proceeded to try to say that they could not go to the highest setting without replacing the Upper Control Arm. But that contradicts what most of you have said on this forum. I refused to take the truck until they raised it up to highest setting or put my OEM parts back on.

I have two questions… first… for those of you who have installed the Bilstein’s at their highest setting without changing any other OEM parts… are you having any issues/damage to your vehicle? Second… my thoughts are that they can at least complete the install at the highest setting and if the Upper Control Arm is, or becomes an issue, I can easily replace it if/when necessary/before I do any kind of significant four wheeling.

I would greatly appreciate any thoughts or factual opinions.
 

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I just had a local shop (in Arizona) install the Bilstein 5100's on my 2021 Ram 1500 Warlock 4X4 (Quad Cab) and when I went to pick it up it was not level… it was about 3 3/4” front and 5 ½” rear, measured from the highest point on the tire to the fender wheel well with a small framing square. They only set it to the next level down from the highest possible setting and proceeded to try to say that they could not go to the highest setting without replacing the Upper Control Arm. But that contradicts what most of you have said on this forum. I refused to take the truck until they raised it up to highest setting or put my OEM parts back on.

I have two questions… first… for those of you who have installed the Bilstein’s at their highest setting without changing any other OEM parts… are you having any issues/damage to your vehicle? Second… my thoughts are that they can at least complete the install at the highest setting and if the Upper Control Arm is, or becomes an issue, I can easily replace it if/when necessary/before I do any kind of significant four wheeling.

I would greatly appreciate any thoughts or factual opinions.
I replaced UCAs to go to the highest setting.
 

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I just had a local shop (in Arizona) install the Bilstein 5100's on my 2021 Ram 1500 Warlock 4X4 (Quad Cab) and when I went to pick it up it was not level… it was about 3 3/4” front and 5 ½” rear, measured from the highest point on the tire to the fender wheel well with a small framing square. They only set it to the next level down from the highest possible setting and proceeded to try to say that they could not go to the highest setting without replacing the Upper Control Arm. But that contradicts what most of you have said on this forum. I refused to take the truck until they raised it up to highest setting or put my OEM parts back on.

I have two questions… first… for those of you who have installed the Bilstein’s at their highest setting without changing any other OEM parts… are you having any issues/damage to your vehicle? Second… my thoughts are that they can at least complete the install at the highest setting and if the Upper Control Arm is, or becomes an issue, I can easily replace it if/when necessary/before I do any kind of significant four wheeling.

I would greatly appreciate any thoughts or factual opinions.
You need angle correcting upper control arms to run bilsteins at the highest setting. Generally 2.1” and under is the limit for stock arms. If you were to install the stock arms they wouldn’t last long and would probably ride poorly, the ball joint will be constantly maxing out. Kind of surprising the shop is refusing to set them to the max though, not sure if that suggests they’re somewhat educated on the topic or just being a pain to work with, lol

Look at JBA upper control arms, they’re fully greasable with a bolt in ball joint. Zone are decent also but have a habit of throwing off your caster specs. Just make sure you get them for 1-3” lift and not the stock geometry version.
 

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I think that they may have mistakenly went with too low of a setting for a true level and they don't want to have to disassemble everything and correct it... and/or they're trying to strong arm me into having them complete the Upper Control Arm at a proposed $1170 or so OTD cost... seems ridiculous. I get that depending upon the end result of the angle/movement of the UCA's that I may likely have to replace them, but do you think there will be any issues with driving it home on the streets carefully and doing the replacement UCA's myself. They don't look like they would be too difficult to replace and it appears that if there are any issues it will be with significant drops/when the suspension drops down... not likely while driving on roadways but possibly when four wheeling. Your thoughts?

PS Update… I just picked up the truck after re-adjustment to the highest setting and it’s reasonably close to level now (slight forward rake… approx. 1/2”). The front driver side height increased by 2” and the front passenger side increased by 1 7/8”. Since this is not over the 2” increase noted, do the UCA’S need to be replaced… I’ll try to attach photos of the current position/angle of the UCA’s.

The first photo (5421) is an example of what both sides looked like with all OEM parts. The Second photo (5441) is the driver side with the Bilstien 5100's installed, and the third photo (5451) is the passenger side.
 

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