Warlock Lift Explanation - Read this before lifting/leveling your Warlock's

[irish6768]

Hello all!

With RAM continuing to produce these 4th Gens as the "Warlock" Package I figured I would make a Thread Explaining the Lift on these trucks as its a question that gets asked a lot. Of course RAM doesn't really put any info out there to help us in the aftermarket world.

The Warlocks Come with a 1" lift from the factory over the stock ones. This is the same lift that is/was used on the Outdoorsman and old "TRX" model (not the same as the new one with the Hellcat in it) The Lift is Achieved in 2 ways.

Front: The Front of the Warlocks is lifted .7" over factory using a higher spring seat, also called the circlip. It is fixed to the stock shock body. So there is no adjustment on the stock shock. The Bilstein 5100 and 6112 has an adjustable spring seat allowing different ride heights to be achieved. This is what creates the lift.

When lifting the front of a 4th Gen ram truck it is generally regarded that Higher than 2" of front lift needs new Upper Control Arms if off-roading at all. So this would be anything over 1.4" on the Warlocks. UCA's are one of those highly discussed subjects.... The best all around replacement UCA would be the ZONE one. (Personally been running mine for 20,000 miles at the time of writing this)

Most people would suggest the Bilstein 5100's for leveling out the front of the Warlocks. Setting them at 2.8 usually levels out these trucks perfectly with a slight rake to the back.

If you do a puck spacer lift on these trucks you will have .7" of higher lift than advertised.

Explanation Photos on the front

This is Bilstein 5100's at 2.8 on a 2019 Warlock

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Installation instructions on 5100's

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Now onto the rear of these trucks.

RAM says that the rear lift is achieved by "HD" coils. These will have a slightly stiffer rate than the factory ones. Of information that I've gathered it seems that these "HD" rear coils tend to be .5 - 1.5" higher than stock. 4th Gen rams are known to have vastly different rakes varying from truck to truck.

When searching for a lift I would recommend getting good Front and Rear wheelwell measurements to see how much rake you have. This will help in deciding how much to lift the front.

The stock rear shocks are absolute crap.... Bilstein P/N (24-187374) and Icon P/N (216524) both make great replacements that will help the ride a lot.


Now for your bracket style 4 and 6 inch lift kits, the same applies if you leave the stock shocks in you will have a .7" lift over what is given. I.E. You will have a 4.7" lift or 6.7" lift respectfully in the front. In the rear depends on how its lifted. If you choose a lift with new Coils expect to achieve slightly less than advertised rear lift. If you choose a lift with spacers it will stay the same.


I recommend going with Zone or Superlift for 4" or 6" kits. if you are unsure about what will fit your needs reach out to members @Quick_Shifter or @[email protected] Both of these Guys can get anyone squared away with what they need.



Hopefully this is somewhat informational and can help in understanding how these wonderful trucks work.

This helpful but a little confusing. Hoping you could help guide me. I have a 2021 Warlock 1500 Classic, Crew Cab 4x4 5.7L hemi. Id like to be able to level the front enough to place 285/65s on it. I do not really offroad, just when hunting and that is still, mostly dirt roads or farm tracks. Is a simple front leveling kit an option? or do I need to consider more to be able to make the 285 /65s work correctly? Appreciate any help!

 

[Scottly]

This helpful but a little confusing.

Cheap-ass hockey pucks on top of a coil-over ain't the way to do it. Clear that up?

 

[j-b]

This helpful but a little confusing. Hoping you could help guide me. I have a 2021 Warlock 1500 Classic, Crew Cab 4x4 5.7L hemi. Id like to be able to level the front enough to place 285/65s on it. I do not really offroad, just when hunting and that is still, mostly dirt roads or farm tracks. Is a simple front leveling kit an option? or do I need to consider more to be able to make the 285 /65s work correctly? Appreciate any help!

You're best bang for the buck leveling kit is going to be the Bilstein 5100's set at 2.1 or 2.8. I recommend 2.8 because no one ever regrets going for more.

 

[newfrank]

So I've got a 2019 warlock, put in the timbrens for helping reduce sag when towing, which I do a lot of. Looking at getting a set of 275/65r20 toyo open country at3s (I have the stock 20" rims so don't want to go too wide), and want to throw in some 5100's.

j-b when you had the 5100s in your warlock, set a 2.8 and you hauled your gear around / towed, did it sag a ton in the rear end? I tow a lot (snowmobiles, quads, boats, etc...) and am worried 2.8 is too aggressive. I was thinking of going 2.1 - been searching for photos / input but I'm not finding much since it seems like everyone just goes for 2.8 lol

I may just got for 2.1 and see what happens. I think I would rather have a slight rake forward to really level out when towing, than to have a slight rake to the rear with no load.

 

[dstock]

So I've got a 2019 warlock, put in the timbrens for helping reduce sag when towing, which I do a lot of. Looking at getting a set of 275/65r20 toyo open country at3s (I have the stock 20" rims so don't want to go too wide), and want to throw in some 5100's.

j-b when you had the 5100s in your warlock, set a 2.8 and you hauled your gear around / towed, did it sag a ton in the rear end? I tow a lot (snowmobiles, quads, boats, etc...) and am worried 2.8 is too aggressive. I was thinking of going 2.1 - been searching for photos / input but I'm not finding much since it seems like everyone just goes for 2.8 lol

I may just got for 2.1 and see what happens. I think I would rather have a slight rake forward to really level out when towing, than to have a slight rake to the rear with no load.

I'll jump in here, I have a 2021 Warlock and did the 2.8 and while it's perfectly level when the bed is empty, there is a bit of sag once you had some weight. I'm totally with you on rake to the rear, makes me nuts! I actually just added some Liftmaster airbags this past weekend which enables me to even it out or even increase the rake towards the front if needed.

I didn't have a chance to give it much of a test drive but I will be putting some miles on it later this week and can report back.

 

[j-b]

So I've got a 2019 warlock, put in the timbrens for helping reduce sag when towing, which I do a lot of. Looking at getting a set of 275/65r20 toyo open country at3s (I have the stock 20" rims so don't want to go too wide), and want to throw in some 5100's.

j-b when you had the 5100s in your warlock, set a 2.8 and you hauled your gear around / towed, did it sag a ton in the rear end? I tow a lot (snowmobiles, quads, boats, etc...) and am worried 2.8 is too aggressive. I was thinking of going 2.1 - been searching for photos / input but I'm not finding much since it seems like everyone just goes for 2.8 lol

I may just got for 2.1 and see what happens. I think I would rather have a slight rake forward to really level out when towing, than to have a slight rake to the rear with no load.

Yes it will sag. However it should really only sag to when it hits the timbrens.

 

[Meatman8769]

Hello all!

With RAM continuing to produce these 4th Gens as the "Warlock" Package I figured I would make a Thread Explaining the Lift on these trucks as its a question that gets asked a lot. Of course RAM doesn't really put any info out there to help us in the aftermarket world.

The Warlocks Come with a 1" lift from the factory over the stock ones. This is the same lift that is/was used on the Outdoorsman and old "TRX" model (not the same as the new one with the Hellcat in it) The Lift is Achieved in 2 ways.

Front: The Front of the Warlocks is lifted .7" over factory using a higher spring seat, also called the circlip. It is fixed to the stock shock body. So there is no adjustment on the stock shock. The Bilstein 5100 and 6112 has an adjustable spring seat allowing different ride heights to be achieved. This is what creates the lift.

When lifting the front of a 4th Gen ram truck it is generally regarded that Higher than 2" of front lift needs new Upper Control Arms if off-roading at all. So this would be anything over 1.4" on the Warlocks. UCA's are one of those highly discussed subjects.... The best all around replacement UCA would be the ZONE one. (Personally been running mine for 20,000 miles at the time of writing this)

Most people would suggest the Bilstein 5100's for leveling out the front of the Warlocks. Setting them at 2.8 usually levels out these trucks perfectly with a slight rake to the back.

If you do a puck spacer lift on these trucks you will have .7" of higher lift than advertised.

Explanation Photos on the front

This is Bilstein 5100's at 2.8 on a 2019 Warlock

View attachment 483149

Installation instructions on 5100's

View attachment 483150




Now onto the rear of these trucks.

RAM says that the rear lift is achieved by "HD" coils. These will have a slightly stiffer rate than the factory ones. Of information that I've gathered it seems that these "HD" rear coils tend to be .5 - 1.5" higher than stock. 4th Gen rams are known to have vastly different rakes varying from truck to truck.

When searching for a lift I would recommend getting good Front and Rear wheelwell measurements to see how much rake you have. This will help in deciding how much to lift the front.

The stock rear shocks are absolute crap.... Bilstein P/N (24-187374) and Icon P/N (216524) both make great replacements that will help the ride a lot.


Now for your bracket style 4 and 6 inch lift kits, the same applies if you leave the stock shocks in you will have a .7" lift over what is given. I.E. You will have a 4.7" lift or 6.7" lift respectfully in the front. In the rear depends on how its lifted. If you choose a lift with new Coils expect to achieve slightly less than advertised rear lift. If you choose a lift with spacers it will stay the same.


I recommend going with Zone or Superlift for 4" or 6" kits. if you are unsure about what will fit your needs reach out to members @Quick_Shifter or @[email protected] Both of these Guys can get anyone squared away with what they need.



Hopefully this is somewhat informational and can help in understanding how these wonderful trucks work.

This is wicked info. I just put new fox 2.0s in my front of the 19' warlock. I had the factories with 1" pucks in there and it sat right where I wanted to. But after the fox ones went in feels like its back to factory ride height. I should just be able to raise these fox ones up to the desired height correct?

 

[TCOP]

Hello, Its done. For budget reasons I ended up leveling my truck. I then put on Nitto Grapler A/T 33" with the armory rims. Looks darn cool. I do see a difference with the gas mileage and its a bit more sluggish feeling initially. But oh well, I guess thats the trade off.

 

[czervika]

Looks darned nice...

 

[crazykid1994]

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