olyelr
Senior Member
Locking up in the snow can be a sketchy thing at times lol.
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I disagree a diesel can be every bit capable of the PW, look at the AEV prospector.
You add no value to the OP listing. Not going to go back and forth. It's a legit question they are asking. OP did not ask what the difference was. Bottom line your posting had zero value. Please consider this when posting. I'm not going to argue, my point is very clear.
It is not a true bench seat. It's 2 buckets w/ a jump seat in the center that doubles a center console. I like this more than a traditional console. It has an under seat compartment for things you don't need to get at regularly and the upper back folds down to be a shallow storage compartment for things you do need to get at regularly. Much better for organization. You don't have to dig down through crap to find something.Thanks everyone for the discussion.
I know the payload and towing is significantly lower on the PW but don't need it to be any higher with what I tow or carry.
I basically need something that can handle off road situations, and more importantly, deep snow at times. That's why I asked about the PW, however, a CD 2500 intrigued me since I know how dependable and highly regarded it is plus possible better mpg on highway.
As others have said, I don't think a non PW is as capable for what I would need it for. Some mentioned a Prospector, however, not having adaptive cruise control is a deal breaker for me (I know, I know but I truly use it everyday).
I think for what it has, lower price and capabilities, the PW may be what I need.
And the only thing I don't like about the PW is the front bench seat. Really wish I could get a center console but understand the 4wd transfer case lever is there.
DittoPot met kettle.
Ditto
Yep, and my original post applies to him...He’s talking about YOU!!!....[emoji23]
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The last Cummins I would own was the 5.9 before emission standards made a mess of diesels. With what you listed the 6.4 8spd. should be spot on for your needs. I have a 2000 Cummins that gets 18 to 23 mpg not towing and 12 towing 8000# and my brother gets 10 towing and 16 not with his last of the no-def Cummins. The gas motor is much lighter, more responsive and costs less to maintain and will probably get as good and maybe better mpg than the diesel not to mention much more fun to drive. Unless I was towing very heavy a lot the choice is not even close, 6.4 8 spd.I know that MPG's aren't listed for HD trucks but what are we talking about with regards to diesel vs gas on the 2019's? Who has actual highway mpg without towing? I'm taking long highway trips but not always towing. Is the extra mpg with the Cummins make-up for the higher price per gallon? Not worried about cost of the diesel engine since I will buy at the end of the year used or leftover so the $9k upcharge shouldn't be as much.
I just traded our 2016 Ram 3500 Longhorn Mega dually with a 3:73 rear. I was getting 17/18 around town and 21/22 on the highway. I drove it easy and never hammered down. Pulled a 16,000 fifth wheel at around 10/12. Loved my diesel and was my second after a 2500 Laramie Crew with a 3:42. If your not dragging heavy, a 3:73 is more of a daily driver. The 3:42 has the best mpg on my 2500 with about 22/23 on the highway. We have a 2019 1500 and find it hard to get 21/22 on the highway. I miss the exhaust brake on my 2500/3500.