Y pipe question ?

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For a new Y pipe and straight duals ?

nothing fancy just SS pipe . no magnaflow Y pipe just the in house stuff here .

In house Y pipe and duals ? was thinking of doing that now that im running without a muffler and pipes .
 
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thinking of a X pipe instead of the Y .

I have the factory Y now but in order to run true duals i need a X pipe.
 
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sorry. it worked for me. Here it is cut and paste:

Do you really need an exhaust system on your car? That’s a good question. If you have neighbors, drive it on public streets anywhere there are cops, or race it on virtually any NHRA track in the country, the answer is probably yes. Will it cost you power compared to open headers? Although that answer is also frequently yes, it can be no with the right system.

We’ve been running open headers on our ’86 Mustang project car since day one because it was the easiest thing to do and it seemed cool. It was also brutally loud, but it did pass muster at our local track because Los Angeles County Raceway doesn’t enforce a 95-decibel rule or require mufflers like many “street-legal” drag programs do. However, we always wondered if the open headers were costing us a little low-end torque due to a lack of backpressure. To find the answer, we took the car to Magnaflow Performance Exhaust’s research and development center. After discussing our combination and the way the car is used (100 percent at the track), Magnaflow built a system based on its universal X-pipe crossover and a pair of its stainless steel street series mufflers.

For any performance exhaust system, some type of crossover connecting the two sides of a dual exhaust system is important because it acts to balance the two banks of the engine. The common H-style crossover is good at balancing sound pulses between the two halves, but does little to promote scavenging because the exhaust gases tend to follow the path of least resistance, which is straight through each pipe rather than taking the 90-degree turn through the H-pipe into the other half of the system. In an X-pipe system, however, where the two sides of the system intersect, the gasses have no choice but to intermingle as they pass through the junction. This promotes improved scavenging effects by smoothing out uneven exhaust pulses from the engine’s firing order. It also helps quiet down the exhaust, resulting in a mellower, less raspy tone. According to Magnaflow, the faster acceleration of the gasses through an X-pipe causes them to flow in a linear fashion parallel to the walls of the tubing rather than tumbling. This “laminar” flowing gas is much quieter than tumbling gas, resulting in an exhaust tone up to 8 decibels quieter than a traditional H-pipe.

We left the car at Magnaflow for about a week, and when we came back we found that after some preliminary testing, the guys had built a really trick system consisting of 2-½-inch tubing from the header collectors into the X-pipe, 3-inch out of the X flaring into 3½-inch tubing running for about 26 inches before necking back down into a pair of 3-inch mufflers with turn-downs. The theory behind this design is that it will keep the velocity of the exhaust gases moving quickly through the headers into the X-pipe to maximize the scavenging effect, while the larger-diameter tubing ahead of the mufflers prevents the gasses from stacking up as they pass through the mufflers to avoid excessive backpressure in the system.

Sounds good, but would it work? To find out, we tested three exhaust-system configurations on Magnaflow’s in-house Dynojet. For a baseline, we ran the car with open headers and saw 333 hp at 6,300 rpm and 304 lb-ft of torque at 5,200 at the rear wheels. Next, we ran a 2-½-inch bolt-together system consisting of a BBK short off-road H-pipe designed to fit the company’s full-length headers connected to a set of race-type 2-½-inch welded mufflers with turndowns. Our Mustang’s carbureted 302 didn’t like this combo, as power fell to 323 hp at 6,300 rpm and 295 lb-ft of torque at 5,200. The increased backpressure also richened up the air/fuel mixture by about two carburetor jet sizes.

Finally, we swapped on the stepped X-pipe setup and were impressed to see power levels equal to the open headers: 335 hp at 6,300 hp and 302 lb-ft at 5,200. That’s a gain of 12 rear-wheel horsepower, although it turns out we weren’t really giving anything up or gaining anything extra from the open headers. So the car’s happy, and our ears are even happier!
 
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i must be confused because i dont think i have a factory Y pipe .. i have 2 cats then some pipe crushed together into one ? doesent look like a Y to me
 

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That's the factory Y, and the crushed pipe is why we get rid of it.
 
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ahh i see , but my cat is to close ... i will get a pic BRB
 
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better yet a video

 

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Yours is a little different than a 1500, but all of us using the mag Y needed to custom bend some 2.5" pipe and move the location of the Y. Mine is back about 10 inches farther than it was stock.
 
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damm well i guess i will have to have another man put his hands on her ... i hate that , i do all my mods myself but im no tube bender .

i wonder if i cut the cats if i would throw codes as i will have to remove the o2's ?
 
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does a y pipe give you better sound , Hp , Tq , ect ...

not to up on them
 

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I did mine the same time as my BBK headers, so I am not sure about power difference. I have read that it improves throttle response and is good for about 5hp.
 
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well thanks rus , guess you are the only one that knows about these things as your the only one to respond ..lol
 

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IMO RH go Magnaflow Y, then ditch the cat and run O2 sims, and throw on a Aero 3030 as a little resonator as it will bang and pop without the cat acting as a resonator. It will still be loud as sin but have a pretty clean tone and it will flow much better without the ******** Dodge 3rd world engineered Y pipe.
 

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