2003F350
Senior Member
Second one is wrong as well.
As is last one. I didn't even both to look at others.... Last one is for 1500 and 2500.... Since you didn't bother to read what you are posting. You took the values for their 2500 model....
And no not better.
7,678 lb
2,222 lb
1,200 lb.
Your numbers are off... If you want to do 20% go for it. If you want load anything to it's max go for it. But that doesn't mean it's correct, or that is right.
Those Half-Ton's 5th have Pin weight of 15%. Normal people don't put a ton of stuff in their trailers and drive around.
Where is he wrong? He added the advertised empty weight and the cargo carrying capacity to get the vehicle's GVWR, which is 10k - and that's EXACTLY what GVWR is, curb (or dry) weight + cargo capacity. 1200lbs is the advertised DRY pin weight, not the pin weight at max GVWR. So when it's empty, sure, their layout claims it'll be 15% - but there's a STRONG chance that when you load it up you'll be closer to 20%. Unless you load EVERYTHING directly over the axles you're GOING to increase pin weight.
Those half ton 5ers have an ADVERTISED pin weight of 15%. It is not static. Most of the storage for clothing/bedding/bathroom is ahead of the axles in MOST RVs, which adds to the pin weight. Most of the water/waste storage is ahead of the axles, which adds to the pin weight. It is VERY easy to get one of those 'half ton' 5ers to 20% or greater pin weight - and for a LOT of half ton trucks that exceeds their GVW, and likely their RAGWR.
And everyone I know who camps on a semi-regular basis DOES put a ton of stuff in their trailer (heck my parents' camper is likely overloaded with all the crap my mother packs - it's no wonder dad still pulls it with an F450). Full kitchen utensils/cookware, campsite tools, leveling/hookup supplies, yard games, clothing, bedding, etc. etc. etc. all adds up, and for a family of 3-4 that's a LOT of stuff. Add in a full tank of water if you aren't going to be on a water/electric site and that's quite a bit of weight too.
Look, we get it, your mind is made up. We are telling you the numbers as they approximately are, and that the ADVERTISED weights of RVs are a guideline at best, and flat-out wrong at worst. If you want to run based off the advertised numbers, go right ahead - nothing we can say or do will stop you. We are just pointing out that your comments are based on opinions, not facts.
I used to own a small RV repair/hauling/renting business, so I've seen the numbers RV manufacturers play with. There was a reason all our 'work trucks' were duallies and not 1500s. It 100% had to do with payload and axle ratings.
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