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I was told recently I "should have" installed an X-pipe where I deleted the horrible stock Y-pipe. Why? I figured running the pipes from the cats all the way back to the Borla 2 in/out muffler would allow for more flow anyway. Is it a back pressure thing? Did this person know what they were talking about? Or am I fine the way I did it? Opinions please?

BTW I used 2.5" pipe.
 

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your fine.
H pipe and X pipe, while may vary on gains in certain RPM range, you wouldnt see much gains at all in a heavy truck.
 

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I thought an x pipe deleted the cats at least on my mustang it did
 

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yes, off road H and off road H will delete on Mustang. If your truck remains and has to keep cats, I'd run hi-flow cats and call it a day if your worries about flow.
 

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The big gain of an X or and H pipe is equalizing the flow between the banks.
If you have a DI/DO muffler you likely are getting most of the benefits of it anyway!
 

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As far as I know it takes some work to run true duals on these trucks.
I would go with H over X for sound since there really isnt much performance difference
H/X pipe will flow better, just like a 3" will flow better then a 2.5"
 
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The cats are closer up to the engine...and there is a few feet of pipe before you reach that stock Y-pipe, which is where I cut it out and just ran pipe from either side all the way down to the muffler.
 
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As far as I know it takes some work to run true duals on these trucks.
I would go with H over X for sound since there really isnt much performance difference
H/X pipe will flow better, just like a 3" will flow better then a 2.5"

Well, I like the way my exhaust currently sounds. I guess the question is will a H or X pipe add any performance increase compared to what I have now. And if so, why?
 
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The big gain of an X or and H pipe is equalizing the flow between the banks.
If you have a DI/DO muffler you likely are getting most of the benefits of it anyway!

Thanks Express. That's what I wanted to know.
 
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Well, I like the way my exhaust currently sounds. I guess the question is will a H or X pipe add any performance increase compared to what I have now. And if so, why?

I wouldnt see any gains, not worth the cost.
 

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The big gain of an X or and H pipe is equalizing the flow between the banks.
If you have a DI/DO muffler you likely are getting most of the benefits of it anyway!

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this. All i have ever seen on x or h pipe is for balancing the system.
 

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Here's some information you may find usefull -

H Pipe:

An H pipe helps equalize the exhaust pressures between the two banks of tubing as the hot gases and sound waves travel down the tubing. This, in effect, relieves the exhaust pressures as they travel through the H tubing, generally creating an increase in torque. This will also give an added sound reduction when the sound waves combine inside the H tubing.

X Pipe:

An X pipe will actually help to scavenge exhaust pulses from one bank as the opposite exhaust pulse passes through the X, thus creating a vacuum effect at the valve, resulting in a cleaner burn in the cylinder. This generally equals added torque and, like the H pipe, a reduction in sound as the sound waves combine in the X pipe.

Y Pipe:

The Y pipe, which works well on several applications, utilizes a dual exhaust off the manifolds/ headers and runs back a specified distance, then the two pipes enter the Y pipe and become one larger pipe. This Y helps each bank to scavenge the other as the pulses travel down through the Y and are joined together into the single common tubing. This creates a vacuum in the exhaust valve, resulting in a cleaner burn in the cylinder. A sound reduction is also achieved as the sound waves combine in the Y pipe.

Personally, I've had both in the past and the biggest difference I've found between H & X pipe is predominantly sound. As long as all things are equal, there's no significant difference in performance between the two.

Anything other than that horrid OEM Y-pipe on the Rams is a gain IMHO.

I went with a Magnaflow 10778 Y-pipe.

Very happy.

Hope this helped.
 

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Interesting! Thanks for the info Grubrunner.
 

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You don't need one since you have a dual in/out muffler. I have true duels and I took my truck back to the Muffler Shop I always use to have a couple of leaks fixed and asked the owner if it would be worth it to install an x-pipe and he said no. He has been doing exhaust for over 30 years if that means anything.
 

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Have you ever seen a truck with duals where on a cold day exhaust only comes out of one tailpipe at times? I have and the X pipe is supposed to prevent that. Some dual in/ dual out mufflers have x pipe in them. Magnaflows anyway. If I do the exhaust I will do x pipe. Just a preference though.

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Have you ever seen a truck with duals where on a cold day exhaust only comes out of one tailpipe at times? I have and the X pipe is supposed to prevent that. Some dual in/ dual out mufflers have x pipe in them. Magnaflows anyway. If I do the exhaust I will do x pipe. Just a preference though.

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Exhaust comes out of both sides off mine. I had an 18" Magnaflow Dual In/Out with the built in Tru X-pipe and it droned so bad I had it removed and had 2 Aero Turbine AT2525 mufflers installed and now have no drone. That was my first and last Magnaflow.
 

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Okay I ran a x-pipe on my 2008 5.7 with a di-do muffler. I ran a x-pipe to create enough back pressure to give me one the deep sound I wanted and second to remove the dreaded drone when on the highway. Everyone will have a different opinion and some say they are right and you are wrong. In the end it's what you are happy with and what you can afford.
 
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You don't need one since you have a dual in/out muffler. I have true duels and I took my truck back to the Muffler Shop I always use to have a couple of leaks fixed and asked the owner if it would be worth it to install an x-pipe and he said no. He has been doing exhaust for over 30 years if that means anything.

Thanks Longhorn...you confirmed the thoughts I was having.

Can't say I've ever had exhaust come out only 1 tail pipe with my current setup.
 
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