Adding foglights to 2013+ tradesman/slt

2013 2500 ST fog light upgrade

Just what I was looking for 2013 2500 ST Fog light upgrade

1500ram12 said:

I've found these so far












Same for 2013-15's.

The connector that is needed is the male end




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Finally found the information and pin PN's for the i120 "Front End Module" connector under the PDC where the foglights get tied in at pins 23 & 24 (1.5mm Yazaki Female terminals). Should help me later when I finally get to this mod.
Note: the Female connector's Yazaki PN may be listed wrong on the posted TechAuthority page (vs 7283-9152-40).

Yazaki Female Housing (34p Hybrid, Type B, 1x 6.3mm, 6x 2.8mm, 27x 1.5mm):
- 7283-9153-40

1.5mm Female Sockets/terminals (pins 23 & 24)
- 7116-4102-02 or -08 (22-20awg)
- 7116-4103-02 or -08 (18-16awg) <-- Recommended wire size

1.5mm Wire Sealing Plugs:
- 7158-3030-50 (1.19-1.70mm wire O.D.), Red


EDIT:
Also need the 9005 Female connectors (Delphi MetriPack 280 style) if you want to make the complete harness.

Mpgrimm2 said:

I have TXL wiring, fog light connectors, and PDC pins to make a complete 2013-2016 harness from the fogs back to the PDC (bypassing the i120). That's my plan. Just need to lay it out and build one to test/verify once I get some other harnesses finished.

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Well, I am starting to dig into this fog light harness project a bit more and discovered why there is not a factory foglight harness kit for 2013 and up trucks. Those de Da Dee's at FCA decided to use a different pinout and connector on different year and class of trucks for the Left and Right Foglight output signals...

2013 Ram 1500:
i120 Pins 7 & 8
(16 Cavity conx. under PDC)
- Molex 33472-1601 (F) / Terminal: 33012-2012 or -3002 (18awg)


2014 - 2017 Ram 1500:
i100? Front End Module Conx Pins 2 & 3
(34 Cav. Hybrid under PDC)
- Yazaki 7283-9153-40 (F) / 1.5 mm
Term: 7116-4102-02 or -08 (22-20awg)
ALT: 7116-4103-02 or -08 (18-16awg) <-- Recommended wire size
1.5mm Seal plug: 7158-3030-50 (1.19-1.70mm wire O.D.), Red

2013 - 2017 Ram 2500+:
i120? Front End Module Conx Pins 23 & 24
(34 Cav. Hybrid under PDC)
- Yazaki 7283-9153-40 (F) / 1.5 mm
Term: 7116-4102-02 or -08 (22-20awg)
ALT: 7116-4103-02 or -08 (18-16awg) <-- Recommended wire size
1.5mm Seal plug: 7158-3030-50 (1.19-1.70mm wire O.D.), Red


Note: the Female connector's Yazaki PN may be listed wrong on the posted TechAuthority page (vs 7283-9152-40).

----- Looks like I have more digging to do -----

3/13/17 Edit :
Updated the info for 2013-2017 trucks.

@1500ram12
You should update your op that the info you posted only applies to 2013-2017 2500's and higher.

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Anyone know what the factory plug/bulb is at the back of the fog lights (2013+)?
I assume its a 9006 or something like that; it would be nice to id the yazaki or tyco PN from TechAuthority.
EDIT: Looks like its 9005 (2 slots/orientation keys)

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Mpgrimm2 said:

Anyone know what the factory plug/bulb is at the back of the fog lights (2013+)?
I assume its a 9006 or something like that; it would be nice to id the yazaki or tyco PN from TechAuthority.

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The bulbs in my 16 spot fogs are 9005.

Nice write up. Thanks.

1500ram12 said:

Mopar hasn't released a add-on Foglight kit yet like they did for 09-12 trucks and I'm not sure if they will have a separate section of the foglight jumper harness available anytime. So for now you have 3 choices.

1- buy the complete headlight wiring harness for around $150 (I think) which has the pig tail connection for the foglight jumper. I have no idea how hard swapping this one in would be, or just steal the wiring for the fogs from it and install them onto your truck.

2- find the female connector and the correct size pins for both ends(I think, don't remember which one it is) and build your own harness

Or what I did

3- cut the end off the jumper, tie the 2 grounds together and find a good grounding point. Then extend the 2 leads to the tipm (or whatever it's called now) and tap into the foglight feed wires in slots 23 and 24. They will be white/yellow and white/orange. Be careful because the headlight wires are the same color.

It may take the dealer a few tries to get the sales code to stay. It took 4 or 5 tries before mine took.

Everything will function as if it was installed as a factory option.

If anyone has any questions about any of the install feel free to ask. I'll post some pics of the wiring and diagrams later.

Here is a link to where you can access the wiring for 2010+ trucks

https://techauthorityonlinedemo.extra.chrysler.com/service/repair/wiring/view/classic.htm

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Where can I find this fog light kit for 2010 2500?

btw76 said:

Where can I find this fog light kit for 2010 2500?

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Try AllMoparParts.com or contact Benny via forum PM (preferred vendor).

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my truck is 2013 SLT and has the black module , any info on the pins or the location of the fog connector if its already there

Warmage said:

my truck is 2013 SLT and has the black module , any info on the pins or the location of the fog connector if its already there

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Slt's aren't pre-wired for fogs

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Warmage said:

my truck is 2013 SLT and has the black module , any info on the pins or the location of the fog connector if its already there

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I'm in the same situation with my SLT. Planning on adding in factory wiring/making a custom harness from scratch. You can read back a few posts for the info you need (it's not a lot of posts really).

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Mpgrimm2 said:

I'm in the same situation with my SLT. Planning on adding in factory wiring/making a custom harness from scratch. You can read back a few posts for the info you need (it's not a lot of posts really).

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i did read , but i only found the pins regarding the gray module connector , unless i missed it somewhere

my friend 2015 SLT has the gray module ! , idk whats Ram doing its confusing

Does anyone think this plug and play if I have the factory harness from the i120 outward? I have the oem harness from a truck with fog lights. I can't tell if something needs to get hooked into the PDC. I have a 15 2500.

Dodgetk81 said:

Does anyone think this plug and play if I have the factory harness from the i120 outward? I have the oem harness from a truck with fog lights. I can't tell if something needs to get hooked into the PDC. I have a 15 2500.

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There is nothing from the PDC on the tradesmans to connect foglights to. I believe mpgrimm is in the process of/or will be able to building the missing section of the harness. Only other options at this point is buy the complete headlight harness w/fog light wiring and either take the fog light section out and install it on your truck or replace the complete harness. Option 2 tap into the fog light feed going into the PDC (pins 23/24)and run wires to the jumper. You'll still need the switch w/fogs and sales code LNJ added.

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1500ram12 said:

There is nothing from the PDC on the tradesmans to connect foglights to. I believe mpgrimm is in the process of/or will be able to building the missing section of the harness. Only other options at this point is buy the complete headlight harness w/fog light wiring and either take the fog light section out and install it on your truck or replace the complete harness. Option 2 tap into the fog light feed going into the PDC (pins 23/24)and run wires to the jumper. You'll still need the switch w/fogs and sales code LNJ added.

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I have the complete factory headlight harness from a truck with fog lights. If I plug that in, add the switch and code I will be good?

Yes

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1500ram12 said:

There is nothing from the PDC on the tradesmans to connect foglights to. I believe mpgrimm is in the process of/or will be able to building the missing section of the harness. Only other options at this point is buy the complete headlight harness w/fog light wiring and either take the fog light section out and install it on your truck or replace the complete harness. Option 2 tap into the fog light feed going into the PDC (pins 23/24)and run wires to the jumper. You'll still need the switch w/fogs and sales code LNJ added.

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I have TXL wiring, fog light connectors, and PDC pins to make a complete 2013-2016 harness from the fogs back to the PDC (bypassing the i120). That's my plan. Just need to lay it out and build one to test/verify once I get some other harnesses finished.

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1500ram12 said:

Yes

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Thank you sir

Mpgrimm2 said:

I have TXL wiring, fog light connectors, and PDC pins to make a complete 2013-2016 harness from the fogs back to the PDC (bypassing the i120). That's my plan. Just need to lay it out and build one to test/verify once I get some other harnesses finished.

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Well, I dug into this fog light harness project a bit more and discovered why there is not a factory foglight harness kit for 2013 and up trucks. Those de Da Dee's at FCA decided to use a different pinout and connector on different year and class of trucks for the Left and Right Foglight output signals.

Edit Updated post 42, 43.

Edit 2 (5-19-17):
Looks like there is a different foglight jumper harness (bumper) for 1500's vs 2500/3500's. Pinout is the same, but the actual bulb connectors are different (9006/1 key vs 9005/2 keys)...


68197065Ax , 13-14 1500's
(9006 Sgl Keyed/1 groove)


68046303Ax , 10-17 2500/3500's
(9005 Dbl Keyed/2 grooves)

Small Update.
We now have a "Foglight Extension harness" that I have sent out to Deereguy to be tested in his 2016 2500 truck to help finalize a write up/install instructions. Next will be to build one for my 2013 1500.

This will allow you to buy the official Mopar Foglight "Jumper" harness that goes into the bumper and plug in the "Extension" harness that will install in the factory connector under the PDC. As close to the factory wiring as you can get.

EDIT (5/23/17): ARRGH! So close. I have the wrong wire seals (too big).

Looks like this...

Hello good night long ago I am interested in adding fog lights to my ram 1500 slt 2013 and I wish they could help me or someone of you could do the harness to work as a factory thank you can help me thanks.