Long tube headers vs Shorty headers?

ProjectR3NTAL · Aug 8, 2017

Which is better? I need some advice

69GWC · Aug 8, 2017

LT headers will make more power then shorties.

Would like to know the HP gains for each myself, seen someone post saying shorties dont give any hp gains but after looking at the stock manifolds I dont see how that could be true..

stoviAZ · Aug 9, 2017

LT's better.

Better sound
Better engineer performance
More hp gain
Only thing the same... They are both a PITA to install

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TylerB · Aug 9, 2017

stoviAZ said:
LT's better.

Better sound
Better engineer performance
More hp gain
Only thing the same... They are both a PITA to install

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LTs are actually easier to install on these.

stoviAZ · Aug 9, 2017

TylerB said:
LTs are actually easier to install on these.

still a pita

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ProjectR3NTAL · Aug 9, 2017

Can they be installed without removing the motor? Don't have easy access to a car lift lol

ProjectR3NTAL · Aug 9, 2017

Also what is a good brand to look at?

HammerHead · Aug 9, 2017

ProjectR3NTAL said:
Can they be installed without removing the motor? Don't have easy access to a car lift lol

ProjectR3NTAL said:
Also what is a good brand to look at?

Long Tube heads can be installed in your driveway or garage, remove front tires and plastic wheel wells and your looking straight at it. Took me 15 hours, but I can live with it. If you have emissions requirments go with American Racing headers, if no emission regulations go with JBA. I'd recommend the ceramic coating also. I went with Kooks and the mid pipe design is a joke and absolulty pathetic for the $$$$$$$$ I spent.

Gamester · Aug 9, 2017

LT's all the way!

SRR007 · Aug 11, 2017

Went with LT JBA no cats and and full true dual exhaust with the stock tips so it looks stock.

CTD · Aug 11, 2017

ProjectR3NTAL said:
Can they be installed without removing the motor? Don't have easy access to a car lift lol

ProjectR3NTAL said:
Also what is a good brand to look at?

I installed mine in the driveway on a set of metal ramps in about 9 or 10 hours. You can also have them installed for 400-600 bucks if you don't feel comfortable doing it yourself.

I went with ARH long tubes 1 3/4" primaries with cats and have no regrets what so ever. They are pricey, but they are also high quality and come with all the needed hardware. Ordered mine from Matt at Moe's and would do it again in a heart beat.

http://www.moes-performance.com/ARH_Stainless_Longtubes_09_2017_5_7L_Hemi_1_3_4_P_p/dhr34wc.htm

BEAST19 · Aug 11, 2017

CTD said:
I installed mine in the driveway on a set of metal ramps in about 9 or 10 hours. You can also have them installed for 400-600 bucks if you don't feel comfortable doing it yourself.

I went with ARH long tubes 1 3/4" primaries with cats and have no regrets what so ever. They are pricey, but they are also high quality and come with all the needed hardware. Ordered mine from Matt at Moe's and would do it again in a heart beat.

http://www.moes-performance.com/ARH_Stainless_Longtubes_09_2017_5_7L_Hemi_1_3_4_P_p/dhr34wc.htm

Just got the same exact set up done !!! Picking it up tomorrow ! Can't wait ! Did u notice any better performance ?? I have mbrp exhaust and vararam intake . I wanted these to complete the setup!

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HammerHead · Aug 11, 2017

69GWC said:
LT headers will make more power then shorties.

Would like to know the HP gains for each myself, seen someone post saying shorties dont give any hp gains but after looking at the stock manifolds I dont see how that could be true..

Blackramhemi did dyno tests on the shorty's and they put down 8HP to the wheels.

CTD · Aug 11, 2017

[email protected] said:
Just got the same exact set up done !!! Picking it up tomorrow ! Can't wait ! Did u notice any better performance ?? I have mbrp exhaust and vararam intake . I wanted these to complete the setup!

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Yes I felt a definite difference in performance. The truck pulls harder throughout the RPM's.

It felt like the loop had come together with the Hemifever tune, Vararam, and the long tubes.

I did not think there would be a big difference in sound with the ARH cats in place, but boy was I wrong. I am currently running the flowpro outlaw direct fit muffler with the factory resonators in place and the truck sounds like a beast.

Keep us updated on how it turns out. :favorites13:

BEAST19 · Aug 11, 2017

Awesome!!! Thanks for the info! I'm gonna post two videos one of my before start up growl, and one post header install...

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BEAST19 · Aug 11, 2017

CTD said:
Yes I felt a definite difference in performance. The truck pulls harder throughout the RPM's.

It felt like like the loop had come together with the Hemifever tune, Vararam, and the long tubes.

I did not think there would be a big difference in sound with the ARH cats in place, but boy was I wrong. I am currently running the flowpro outlaw direct fit muffler with the factory resonators in place and the truck sounds like a beast.

Keep us updated on how it turns out.

With Ur hemifever tune , did u run a log with the headers and send it to sean to have him make any adjustments?? He already made a tune for me prior to having the headers installed but I didn't have my vararam on either..Had my K&n on...

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69GWC · Aug 11, 2017

HammerHead said:
Blackramhemi did dyno tests on the shorty's and they put down 8HP to the wheels.

Thanks for the info. :favorites13:

CTD · Aug 11, 2017

[email protected] said:
With Ur hemifever tune , did u run a log with the headers and send it to sean to have him make any adjustments?? He already made a tune for me prior to having the headers installed but I didn't have my vararam on either..Had my K&n on...

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The only log I did was the initial one he asked for when I first got his tuning. Then before installing I emailed him and told him what I was doing and he sent me a revised tune for the headers.

BEAST19 · Aug 11, 2017

Copy that I told him him they just came in and were installed. . I'm gonna send him a log and he's gonna see if it can b tweeked at all to make it better.

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BEAST19 · Aug 12, 2017

Installed!!! Here's a vid of how they sound ! I'll upload another from the cab shortly ! Let me know if the link works

https://youtu.be/d2-_adtbuWs

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