Synthetic Oil

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I wonder what a new ram would look like painted up like the old D100/200? The Ram's lines are so much different though, I dunno...



I do think Chevy pulled the Cheyenne Big 10 makeover off pretty well though. The retro-esque rallies look great too.

Thoughts?

Ugliest thing I have ever seen. I hate them.

 

[tjfdesmo]

What i meant was, i think you are the 3rd person that complained about amsoil 0w40 making their 6.4 noisy. And i am the o ly one so far that had consistant startup tic on it after 2,000 miles on it.

Gotcha. Mine had fairly consistent startup clatter, and tick/tap within about 1K miles. i think I added the MOS2 at about 2K(?) miles in, and it did quiet it down somewhat within maybe 1K miles.

 

[U&A]

Gotcha. Mine had fairly consistent startup clatter, and tick/tap within about 1K miles. i think I added the MOS2 at about 2K(?) miles in, and it did quiet it down somewhat within maybe 1K miles.

I couldn’t wait that long. As soon as it started cold start ticing consistantly... i had redline in it in 2weeks or so

 

[Ramnewbie]

Im waiting for someone with a 5.7 to do 7quarts of Castrol Edge Titanium 0w40

I thought a month or so ago there was someone but they had added lubriderm to it. If I remember right they said it ran good but switched it out for Shaffer's.

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[Rampant]

Welp, mine has just ran past 2 yrs old and the 36k b to b warranty without ever seeing a dealer. She's done very well so far. It's always been quiet on SS 0w-40 and most likely been worked harder and longer than 90% of the non-commercial trucks on the road with those few miles. If it ever does get the tick, other than a little startup chatter, it will be someone else's problem in short order.

You can **** around with different home remedies and such, but the fact of the matter is, there is a problem in there and it will eventually come out of the shadows when you least expect it. Treating the symptoms instead of the cause is never a sound long-term strategy with anything. Ask any doctor.

 

[Rampant]

I thought a month or so ago there was someone but they had added lubriderm to it. If I remember right they said it ran good but switched it out for Shaffer's.

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LOL someone put skin lotion in their crank case? You mean Lubegard?

 

[Rampant]

Why can't we get a Ram in Destroyer Grey? Eureka!

 

[Ramnewbie]

LOL someone put skin lotion in their crank case? You mean Lubegard?

Lol, yeah lubeguard, I knew that didn't sound right when I posted it and been thinking about it ever since, just couldn't come up with the right word. Thank you.

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[Rampant]

Some great info on moly here. While you're there, trudge around on the rest of the site. All kinds of enginerding info on oils, additives, bearings, viscosities, etc.

 

[Rampant]

Great. Another fluid compatibility issue coming down the pike; your oil. GF-6 oils will be divided into two different categories. GF-6 A&B. GF-6A will be backwards compatible with engines that required GF-5 oils when they were manufactured. GF-6B oils will not be compatible with GF-5 centric engines.

All kinds of excellent info in this article.

 

[rotwiler]

Just a deal I found, amazon has penzoil ultra platnium, 5 quart jug under $25 and penzoil is running a $10 off rebate up to 10 quarts. Comes out to $14.97 each. Newer jug is $27 with same rebate, I ordered the old one, says 1-2 months in stock, but I got it in like 2 weeks, at that time was $24, $2.50 instant off then $10 rebate in mail so came out to $11.50 for 5 quarts.

 

[U&A]

I thought a month or so ago there was someone but they had added lubriderm to it. If I remember right they said it ran good but switched it out for Shaffer's.

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Im waiting for sombody to commit to one of the 2 oils for a few OCI’s at least. I truly think PYB if changed at the correct OCI will prove itself to be a great oil for a hemi.

 

[chrisbh17]

Im waiting for sombody to commit to one of the 2 oils for a few OCI’s at least. I truly think PYB if changed at the correct OCI will prove itself to be a great oil for a hemi.

VOA and uoa evidence says you're probably correct. If I didn't have to deal with cold weather and short trips id probably be the poster child for pyb all the way. Have it in my truck right now and it sounds OK....I just don't like how low the oil pressure gets once it's warmed up (5-20 pyb from dealer)

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[U&A]

VOA and uoa evidence says you're probably correct. If I didn't have to deal with cold weather and short trips id probably be the poster child for pyb all the way. Have it in my truck right now and it sounds OK....I just don't like how low the oil pressure gets once it's warmed up (5-20 pyb from dealer)

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I agree that PYB 20w is a little thin for our hemi’s. I bet 7quarts of 5w30 or 10w30 would work much better

 

[U&A]

VOA and uoa evidence says you're probably correct. If I didn't have to deal with cold weather and short trips id probably be the poster child for pyb all the way. Have it in my truck right now and it sounds OK....I just don't like how low the oil pressure gets once it's warmed up (5-20 pyb from dealer)

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That is the only reason i didnt try it as well. Knowing how conventional oils and group 3 acts in negative temps ( looks like honey that has crystallized) there is no way i will try it. If i lived in Kentucky or the like it would be a great contender. But then when you get down to the hotter states.... id jump back on the Synthetic wagon again.

 

[rotwiler]

I am not sure, but thinking hemi's with really good oil pressure tend to not have the hemi tick. I have been seeing people post oil pressure at idle, how much drops to and at acceleration and when I checked my Ram my #s are higher than almost everyone I see post with the hemi tick. My truck never drops to 30, usually may dip to lowest of around 42 and accelerating jumps to 60s, then falls back to 50s. Truck has zero tick. Correction, I meant to put 60ish, not 70ish, thank you for pointing that out. Edited post, but at wot I see up to 79, even after trucks warmed up. Tonight on way to work tried to take pic but was tough. Got one pic at 71 psi, but just before that was 78psi. I tested this for entire drive to work and at wot, always went in high 70s. I use mobile 1 EP 5w20 with a little lubeguard.

 

[chrisbh17]

70 is awfully high....I dont know if anyone knows for sure, but we think somewhere in the 60s it goes into bypass mode which IIRC bypasses the oil filter so as not to blow it up. So its nice to have high oil pressure, within reason, otherwise its not necessarily all getting filtered.

On factory fill (admittedly during mostly cold weather) my idle oil pressure didnt really go below 34 or so. On dealer fill (presumably PYB 5-20, at least by the part number on the work order) Im getting down to 30/31. Not a fan of it, but many people have said "its fine". Chrysler put in the service manual that unless its 4 psi or lower (!!!!) the oil pressure light wont trigger.

Over on the Z forum someone posted an interesting article about the history of the 5.7L Hemi. In 2013, they changed over to a high volume oil pump. Its interesting to me because, while keeping track of cam/lifter failures, 2013 seems to be the year that they are much less common (at least so far). MY2011/2012 seem to be the worst, MY2013 occurrences are less than half of 2012.

I wonder if it was more an issue of VOLUME and not pressure. The engine can survive a lower pressure as long as there is a lot of oil (volume) being pumped for a given pressure.

 

[R.L.K.]

I am not sure, but thinking hemi's with really good oil pressure tend to not have the hemi tick. I have been seeing people post oil pressure at idle, how much drops to and at acceleration and when I checked my Ram my #s are higher than almost everyone I see post with the hemi tick. My truck never drops to 30, usually may dip to lowest of around 42 and accelerating jumps to 70ish, then falls back to 50s. Truck has zero tick.

My oil pressure would drop to the upper 20s while hot on FF & dealer free oci's .

This is one reason I went up to a 30wt oil , the lowest I've seen my oil pressure on a 30+ weight oil was 39 psi and that was at idle with the oil temp at 228°f .
It was summer and I was towing 7,500 lbs of rock .
Normally my idle psi is 40-43psi while at 190+°f .
My truck does not have the tick either .

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[Ramnewbie]

My oil pressure on my 17 when it's hot after being driven over 100 miles on freeway is 51/52 at speed and 39/40 at ideal in drive, oil temp never went over 213. That's with M1 EP 5/20.

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[69GWC]

Mine, truck has no tick and on 10w30 and 5w30 mix.