Synthetic Oil

[Burla]

For someone who knows little about oil anlyses, the two different findings / changes i see are Calcium (lower) and magnesium (higher). What does this mean and why would there be such a difference since last change (and they are also a bit from the average). Also looks to be more Iron and less Moly, both trends going in the wrong direction correct? Curious......

sn+ are oils made for the di turbo's, not like gf-6, similar but basically is old formula with that change to avoid lspi, means nothing to us either way, both are fine. Now, when gf-6 hits they will have lower hths and that will effect us if we use it. The entire industry should be going to less calcium more mag, that is ok. More iron could be from many different things, but yes most of us have a crush on moly, the more we see of her the better.

He actually has less Iron, because the interval was double. Great uoa.

 

[Burla]

Latest UOA...love my QSUD!

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Better then great, looks perfect for a hemi. The one thing I might consider next time is running a TAN if you are going to continue to do long intervals, only because the calcium and mag start so low. But no doubt the oil held perfect for 10k miles, from what we can see.

 

[Burla]

I like the Moly levels, are you adding something or are these qsud new moly levels? Great evolution we are seeing with many companies and moly.

 

[U&A]

Iv shared with others outside of this thread but wasn’t sure if it was worthy here because it was only around 2,500-3,000lbs. Ill share anyway.

Got a load of fresh cut oak and maple from the side of the road. It was 37 degrees outside. My trans temp never broke 102 now that i have the thermostatic bypass removed[emoji41][emoji41]. Would have been around 150 easy. I bet in warmer temps we will still see a 30-40 degrees drop when towing heavy

This is limb wood[emoji15]. These trees were HUGE. Maple was the smallest at probably 40” at the base. Never seen a maple that big.

Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM [emoji231]

 

[AFMoulton]

Iv shared with others outside of this thread but wasn’t sure if it was worthy here because it was only around 2,500-3,000lbs. Ill share anyway.

Got a load of fresh cut oak and maple from the side of the road. It was 37 degrees outside. My trans temp never broke 102 now that i have the thermostatic bypass removed[emoji41][emoji41]. Would have been around 150 easy. I bet in warmer temps we will still see a 30-40 degrees drop when towing heavy

This is limb wood[emoji15]. These trees were HUGE. Maple was the smallest at probably 40” at the base. Never seen a maple that big.

Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM [emoji231]

Glorious sir! Glorious


2018 2500 6.4 4x4 4.10 Amsoil SS 0w-40, Softopper
Black Rhino Armory 18x9 +12mm
Cooper St MAXX LT295/70R18

2016 Durango 5.7 AWD 3.07 Amsoil SS 4 Qts 5W-30 and 3 Qts 0W-40
1996 Nissan Altima 2.4 Amsoil SS 5W-30

 

[U&A]

When all you guys get your adapters for trans oil filters they are still heavily coated in machining oil.

Clean um up good.


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[TXCOMT]

I like the Moly levels, are you adding something or are these qsud new moly levels? Great evolution we are seeing with many companies and moly.

Nope, no additives--if there's anything Ive learned from you guys is don't add anything (to good oil, anyway)!

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[U&A]

Nope, no additives--if there's anything Ive learned from you guys is don't add anything (to good oil, anyway)!

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Well dont forget that we are “OK” with a dose of BGMOA if you are going for a long OCI and want to boost you TBN some. You still have to watch TAN though.




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[Rampant]

Hey fellers... PF is doing an oil shootout on the Tubes. Redline against Supertech in this bracket. There will be an "Elite Eight Competition" at the end of the series. Two oils per week(ish). He's already pitted Amsoil against RP. If you haven't been following, it's worth a look-see.

 

[AFMoulton]

Hey fellers... PF is doing an oil shootout on the Tubes. Redline against Supertech in this bracket. There will be an "Elite Eight Competition" at the end of the series. Two oils per week(ish). He's already pitted Amsoil against RP. If you haven't been following, it's worth a look-see.

DANG!!!! He came back!!!!


2018 2500 6.4 4x4 4.10 Amsoil SS 0w-40, Softopper
Black Rhino Armory 18x9 +12mm
Cooper St MAXX LT295/70R18

2016 Durango 5.7 AWD 3.07 Amsoil SS 4 Qts 5W-30 and 3 Qts 0W-40
1996 Nissan Altima 2.4 Amsoil SS 5W-30

 

[U&A]

His testing is not cold enough IMO. -15 is nothing. An oil like super tech with viscosity index improves will do very well at that temperature. especially when new.Put it in something colder like -30 and it will suck. No put it at that temperature as a used oil against ester/PAO with say 5 to 7000 miles on the oils when those viscosity index improvers in the supertech are sheared down and gone.

Not do it at extreme heat after the oil has miles on it.

All JMO

I like a lot of his testing. But not all of it.


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[U&A]

In reality supertech has produced some great UOA though


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[Rampant]

His testing is not cold enough IMO. -15 is nothing. An oil like super tech with viscosity index improves will do very well at that temperature. especially when new.Put it in something colder like -30 and it will suck. No put it at that temperature as a used oil against ester/PAO with say 5 to 7000 miles on the oils when those viscosity index improvers in the supertech are sheer down and gone.

Not do it at extreme heat after the oil has miles on it.

All JMO

I like a lot of his testing. But not all of it.


Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM [emoji231]

I think we'd all agree that he can't please everyone. It's not meant to be a be-all-end-all test. But, it will weed out the terrible ones right off the bat. Except for the few crazies up in the extreme north, the majority of engines will never see those extreme temps, so it's kind of pointless for the masses. He's got over a 1/2 Million subscribers, I'd bet very few of those ever see anything close to the [cold] temps he's testing at. Albeit a rather general test, the results so far have been interesting and I do believe 100% he's no shill for any brand. I like it.

 

[HammerHead]

Latest UOA...love my QSUD!

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Fantastic Report!!!!! That is one good report at 9k for off the shelf oil. Wow!

 

[Burla]

His testing is not cold enough IMO. -15 is nothing. An oil like super tech with viscosity index improves will do very well at that temperature. especially when new.Put it in something colder like -30 and it will suck. No put it at that temperature as a used oil against ester/PAO with say 5 to 7000 miles on the oils when those viscosity index improvers in the supertech are sheared down and gone.

Not do it at extreme heat after the oil has miles on it.

All JMO

I like a lot of his testing. But not all of it.

If you don't test oils til they fail, and until they seperate from each other, what is the point? You keep going colder or hotter until you see one of the oils fail, testing in the middle does nothing unless you are testing for a long interval. But let's be honest, group 3 oil companies pay people like this to do exactly what he did, show when oils are equal. And most applications that is all that is needed, but a hemi that is ticking would want the guy to test hotter, or hths at a minimum, and guys in cold states want to see colder then -15 as well. Test was useless.

 

[Rampant]

If you don't test oils til they fail, and until they seperate from each other, what is the point? You keep going colder or hotter until you see one of the oils fail, testing in the middle does nothing unless you are testing for a long interval. But let's be honest, group 3 oil companies pay people like this to do exactly what he did, show when oils are equal. And most applications that is all that is needed, but a hemi that is ticking would want the guy to test hotter, or hths at a minimum, and guys in cold states want to see colder then -15 as well. Test was useless.

I'm not sure what you're suggesting. Could it be fact that redline didn't perform as well in cold flow testing than the preverbal generic cheapie out of the bottle was a sham? Out of curiosity, what separation would you like to see that can be attained without high dollar test equipment? If you have a sensible response to that end, you should present it to him. He reads all comments and shapes his methods based on them.

Redline is certainly not the long interval king. That's a fact. Never has been. The company itself does not even claim to be. Why are you? Concrete evidence it doesn't flow as well as one of the [quite possibly THE] cheapest 'full synthetic' oils on the market in cold temps is an embarrassment for sure, but certainly no reason to suggest this former Marine is being paid off. I watched Supertech "separate" from redline right out of the chute and I must admit, it was quite satisfying.

So... ticking Hemis run hotter? That's a very odd [and not to mention ********] claim. Seems a bit desperate, even for you. Do you have any idea how much $$ a youtuber with 1/2 Mil subscribers and 65K+ views w/in 8 hrs of posting makes? I do, and trust me, he doesn't need to dance for oil money.

Bottom line is, your baby can't win every pageant. Just sit back and enjoy the unfolding... see how it all shakes out in the end. My hunch is that if redline would have taken every category by storm, your post would have had a much different tone, as/per usual.

 

[Burla]

I'm not sure what you're suggesting. Could it be fact that redline didn't perform as well in cold flow testing than the preverbal generic cheapie out of the bottle was a sham? Out of curiosity, what separation would you like to see that can be attained without high dollar test equipment? If you have a sensible response to that end, you should present it to him. He reads all comments and shapes his methods based on them.

Redline is certainly not the long interval king. That's a fact. Never has been. The company itself does not even claim to be. Why are you? Concrete evidence it doesn't flow as well as one of the [quite possibly THE] cheapest 'full synthetic' oils on the market in cold temps is an embarrassment for sure, but certainly no reason to suggest this former Marine is being paid off. I watched Supertech "separate" from redline right out of the chute and I must admit, it was quite satisfying.

So... ticking Hemis run hotter? That's a very odd [and not to mention ********] claim. Seems a bit desperate, even for you. Do you have any idea how much $$ a youtuber with 1/2 Mil subscribers and 65K+ views w/in 8 hrs of posting makes? I do, and trust me, he doesn't need to dance for oil money.

Bottom line is, your baby can't win every pageant. Just sit back and enjoy the unfolding... see how it all shakes out in the end. My hunch is that if redline would have taken every category by storm, your post would have had a much different tone, as/per usual.

Actually, it did win that test, LMAO. My point was clear and presise.

 

[Burla]

Go cold enough and you can see for your own eyes inferiors cold protection oils in a state of fail...

Wait wait, I'll take a case of the cloudy ones if I was searching for the best oil to use in the cold?

 

[Burla]

Make a list of 5 things that are way better cloudy then clear? Milkshakes, that is my number one for sure, I wouldn't trust a clear milkshake.

 

[Burla]

Clouds, clouds are better cloudy as well. I never trusted clear clouds either. honey and vinegar, I need 1 more. Maple syrup, yup did it.