A Ram 1500 without a Hemi?

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Also, it doesn't sound like a V6 and most dont even recognize it as a V6.

So what does it sound like? I don't think I've heard a v6 ram but I've definitely heard the 3.6 in the other vehicles it's in, sounded like a v6 to me but again I haven't heard the ram version.

Just listen to her and watch the needle...



Very nice, what gears? I'm going to have to stick with the v8's just because I want the most amount of power/performance that I can afford, especially for highway passing like this. I recently went to a crew cab short box with hemi and 3.92 LSD, coming from my last two trucks being regular cab short box hemi 3.92 LSD's...man what a difference, granted my regular cabs had tunes in them, this thing feels so much slower comparatively for the extra weight it has. I'll always miss the RCSB performance (acceleration/cornering/handling were all SO much better), but I need the back seat now so had to do it.
 

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3.92s, but currently open rear and under 62 mph it’ll drop another gear and show you what a one wheel peel feels like on the highway in Mexico.
 

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I bought a 2015 RAM 1500, 4WD, Crew Cab with 10,800 miles on it (was a fleet/rental before I got it from Carmax). Tradesman trim, and V-6 power. I originally bought it with the idea of hauling a 1500 pound fishing boat (boat and trailer) on "long" trips, to go fishing in distant states, because, well, why not? Before the year was up, I had purchased a John Deere 1025 sub-compact diesel tractor and a flat bed "car hauler" trailer to haul it about 300 miles, several times per year. I got electric brakes on the trailer, and added "load booster" bump stops to replace the stock axle bumpers, and help keep it level.

I get about 24 mpg on state/federal 4-lane highways in cruise control at 55-65 mph. Slow down just a bit and it's a reliable 23+, and about 20-21 at 70 or more, no trailer. I have a Leer camper shell over the bed, and am usually hauling about 400 pounds of people and dogs and at least 500 pounds of tools in the cargo bed. The 8-speed transmission combined with the V-6 has plenty of power for any kind of normal highway driving.

Add the boat trailer, and it's almost unnoticeable. Mileage drops "some" but not "a lot."

Add the flat bed with the tractor (around 6000 pounds total, with truck hauling capacity of 7000 pounds "by the book,") and the mileage drops to about 14. If I had known I was going to haul that heavy trailer, I would have gone for the Hemi, but, for my 2-3 times a year moving the tractor 300 miles, it has been perfectly fine (from Chattanooga Tn to near Albany, Georgia). I have put the truck in 4WD Low range to move it all up and down my STEEP Tennessee driveway, but otherwise, I believe I value the good mileage above the extra horsepower that the Hemi would provide. I will probably buy a Hemi next time, especially if gas prices stay down, but for now, the V-6 with 8-speed transmission has been perfectly adequate in the places I've had to haul the heavier trailer. If I had to haul the heavier load every day, there's no doubt that a Hemi would be preferable, simply because durability is probably better when you're not operating the engine and transmission near the upper limits of their capacity.

If I end up not needing to haul the tractor around from state to state (which is probable) the V-6 would be my preference for people, dogs, gear and the fishing boat, simply because the gas mileage is better with the smaller engine.

I'm also not one of those guys who drives like NASCAR wanna-bees, so it's the utility and economy of the truck that I like. It's my "go to" vehicle for long trips (other car is a 2016 Subaru Forester) despite the Subaru's mileage (up to 36 on the interstate in cruise control) because I can carry a ton of stuff, two big dogs in the crew cab back seat, and it's probably more survivable in a crash, should that occur.

I'd say. think about what you are 'reasonably' going to do with the truck, and then pick the engine that gives you the utility you want from it. V-6 is going to be better mileage around town, no doubt, but Hemi is going to be better on the highway, doing 80, if that's your thing.
 

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I might also add that I was a military pilot, and so, the idea of having a vehicle that provides some kind of thrill or testosterone boost is simply not there for me. I've spent enough time upside down, pulling 5 g's at 300 mph to not be impressed by anything that moves on the ground. Fight training completely ruined roller coasters for me -- no thrill, period. You're never going to be "Maverick," no matter what you drive. You won't even be, "Goose."

In my circle, the guys who get ridiculed are the ones with the big diesel duallys that belch smoke and make noise when they floor it on the highway to . . . do what? What's the point? You might as well throw dollar bills out the window instead. Nobody over 30 years old is impressed, and most are simply annoyed by such behavior. "In a hurry to get to his next wreck," is usually what reasonable people think about such behavior on the highways.

Military aviation is more about SAFETY than anything else. Sure, we do risky things, but we also follow the book, and obey the regulations.

At the end of the day, it's more important to get home to the people who love you than to impress a bunch of losers who care about whether you're driving a Hemi, or a V-6.
 

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Thanks everyone, I guess my mind was already made up but I still needed some wise guidance. I'm gettin' a hemi! Johnny mac, your post made me laugh out loud! And you guys are right. Looking at it, the mpg savings in a v6 is not enough to justify getting one. Thanks again!
Congratulations, mortarman. Well decided. Now, there's just one more performance plateau to attain: a "Pulsar" tuner from Edge Products or DiabloSport. MDS is for the faint of heart. You're not going to buy a Hemi so you can drive a Prius half the time, are you?
 

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You may not plan to ever haul anything but you'll always be able to.

Plus the truck itself Crew Cab weight like 7000lbs do you really want a smaller motor to move you?
 

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I might also add that I was a military pilot, and so, the idea of having a vehicle that provides some kind of thrill or testosterone boost is simply not there for me. I've spent enough time upside down, pulling 5 g's at 300 mph to not be impressed by anything that moves on the ground. Fight training completely ruined roller coasters for me -- no thrill, period. You're never going to be "Maverick," no matter what you drive. You won't even be, "Goose."

In my circle, the guys who get ridiculed are the ones with the big diesel duallys that belch smoke and make noise when they floor it on the highway to . . . do what? What's the point? You might as well throw dollar bills out the window instead. Nobody over 30 years old is impressed, and most are simply annoyed by such behavior. "In a hurry to get to his next wreck," is usually what reasonable people think about such behavior on the highways.

Military aviation is more about SAFETY than anything else. Sure, we do risky things, but we also follow the book, and obey the regulations.

At the end of the day, it's more important to get home to the people who love you than to impress a bunch of losers who care about whether you're driving a Hemi, or a V-6.

Yeah I don't think anyone is fooling themselves here about that, the Ram isn't a fast vehicle by any means. I'm just going to take the more powerful/faster setup in any vehicle because when I need it, I want it to be there the most it can.
 

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Taking something another engineering team built and improving upon it is satisfying to me personally.

The mechanically inclined understand that anyone can spend money(or get training) and purchase/sit in something that attains more velocity. Purchasing an off-the-floor 16 second family luxury 6000# towing vehicle and making it run 12s with a few bolt-ons and some logic programming from your own hands is all part of the process in being creative and constantly challenging limits.

Not everyone is content with their past accomplishments, like the guy in grade school that peaked and still sports his letterman jacket at the watering holes living in his hometown.


Plus, the resale is better ;)
 
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So there is my quandary; either I risk almost certain ridicule and get a Ram with a v6 or I deal with the higher cost of lower mpg and get a hemi. Anyone want to chime in? Have at it. :)

I own a Ram 1500 with the 3.6L six-banger. Now, forget my recommendations - what are you going to with the truck? If it's not going to haul too much, the 6-banger is perfect. I have a small hobby farm - I tow up around 3500 lbs of stuff (and the occasional horse), and carry within payload limits quite easily. That said, I carry and tow more on a regular basis than at least half the Hemi owners out there will in the entire time they own their trucks (don't get me wrong - if that's your thing, go for it with no complaints from me. I'm just stating what I believe to be fact.)

As far as any ridicule? I have yet to have anyone in real life ridicule the truck - I mostly get compliments. Out here in the sticks, the only trucks that get ridiculed are the ones that don't do any work. Most trucks out here have tools and bits of rope/bungee/strap loafing around in the bed, and nearly all of them have scratches and the occasional dent somewhere.

Now - back to the subject: if you're considering (or own) a large-ish camper, or otherwise tow/carry stuff (or plan to tow/carry the heavier stuff) beyond the capabilities of the little 3.6L 6-cyl Pentastar engine? Then a Hemi makes perfect sense.

But then, it's ultimately your decision. You do you. It's totally okay either way you go.
 

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I might also add that I was a military pilot, and so, the idea of having a vehicle that provides some kind of thrill or testosterone boost is simply not there for me.

I'm not a Stick Actuator, but I agree with you perfectly (I am however a graduate of Tarmac University; Magna *** Skydrol ;) ).

Folks, dude's right. Usually it's the kids that over-buy something (usually at 23% interest!) in a desperate attempt to look important (and more importantly, attract some pretty little strange.) Thing is, it does neither, and you end up with a giant expense that takes all your time and money just to keep going... and for what?
 
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I don't need to tow anything, never had, never will. I have an 8 mile commute to work one way. Most of my driving is around town with occasional highway for less than 10 miles. Every other week I drive an hour to visit my 92 year old mom. Once a year I drive an hour an a half to a music festival. That's my driving history. I know full well I don't need a hemi. My heart is fighting my brain, I keep going back and forth on this. Thank God I have 9 months to change my mind 100 or so times, lol!
 

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I have owned both the 3.6 penstar and the Hemi both are excellent vehicles. If you are looking for a daily driver I would go with the 3.6 penstar,it comes with a 305 hp and gets good gas mileage.It had all the horsepower that I needed.I stepped up to the 5.7 hemi to pull a trailer but I will always like the 3.6 penstar.
 

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Test drive both. Don't settle for the around the block BS they take you on either. Take them both on the highway before or after rush hour. If they say no to testing on the highway find another dealer.
 

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I'm glad I got the Hemi. It is decent on fuel on the highway. The trany and all work very well together along with the MDS (I.e 4 cylinder mode) to provide the power needed. Albany, NY to Bradley airport - 75 - 80 mph 18.7mpg....... Return trip dropped to 17.8mpg do to hills and traffic (i.e. pissed off at 2 semi's in the left lanes up the long westbound pull verse using the slow lane, so of course drop the hammer in the slow lane and truck was instantly doing 90+).
The Hemi in it reminds me of when I had a 72 cougar with a 351 cleveland. Tons of power when needed. The difference is this motor also sips fuel when not needed. I've been looking for Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde decals for my tailgate, as that is exactly how this hemi operates...... Come respectable fuel conserving full size truck - Dr. Jekyll. Monstrous beast of a truck that shreds tires and launches like high horsepower race truck - Mr. Hyde
My problem is the 16 year old running around in my 50 year old head always wants Mr. Hyde to come out when I'm driving it...........2019 Ram 1500 Classic 5.7L Hemi.JPG
Not yet 2 months old..She now has step nerf tubes, & tri-fold Tonneau cover, and sports a magnet mount LED light bar on the roof.
Debating on some graphics for hood and rear fenders... Thinking flat / matte black segmented graphic kit...still not sure.
 

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Folks, dude's right. Usually it's the kids that over-buy something (usually at 23% interest!) in a desperate attempt to look important (and more importantly, attract some pretty little strange.) Thing is, it does neither, and you end up with a giant expense that takes all your time and money just to keep going... and for what?

I understand and agree with this with many cars, but I don't think I'd throw many hemi owners here in that category. I just bought my 3rd hemi, promptly took off the hemi badge as I always do, and am already in a long term relationship. So I'm not looking for attention or **** tang, I just love a v8 and am much happier with one as a car guy. Do I need the v8? Nope I don't, I also don't need a full size car or truck technically, but at 6'2" I really enjoy having the extra space, so I always either end up with a full size truck or car.

Lumping everyone with a v8 into a category of attention seeking is just like saying anyone with a truck is compensating for something.
 

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I don't need to tow anything, never had, never will. I have an 8 mile commute to work one way. Most of my driving is around town with occasional highway for less than 10 miles. Every other week I drive an hour to visit my 92 year old mom. Once a year I drive an hour an a half to a music festival. That's my driving history. I know full well I don't need a hemi. My heart is fighting my brain, I keep going back and forth on this. Thank God I have 9 months to change my mind 100 or so times, lol!

Just an observation, but it seems to me from your posts that you're more of a Hemi guy.
These trucks are so damn expensive, why would you buy one that doesn't put a smile on your face every time you get in it?

Yeah I get that fuel is expensive. But if that was the only consideration you'd be buying a Honda Civic.

Just sayin'.
 

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I moved from an F150 to my Ram ED.

I was going to grab a hemi but the dealer had a good price on a demo Laramie ED. To be honest I love it. I tow a 20' enclosed constantly 3-5 hours one way trips loaded to its max towing capacity. MPG is incredible, sometimes I forget I have the damned trailer. I remember how horrible it felt towing it with the FX4 so I'm pretty much married to RAM now.

Honestly, get what you like and who cares what others think, it's your truck.
 

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As you have already seen from the 8 or so pages of opinions...there are many. Some will tell you that you HAVE to get a Hemi to prove your a man ... I say that if you need a Hemi to prove your a man then you might as well drive a Prius. Get what you want, both the Hemi and the Pentastar are great engines (don't know anything about the little diesel) and will likely not disappoint. At the end of the day, its your truck, your money and your smile.

For record, I am completely satisfied with my V6 and have never had anyone ask me what was under the hood....
 

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What is the price difference-I think the Hemi is only around +$3000 more unless Im wrong. You will have more capability should your needs change over the years. Yes the Pentastar will give you slightly higher mpg-but not so much if you tow anything substantial as the 6 cyl. will be working harder. Also the Hemi 8 sounds much nicer especially with dual exhaust. Should you sell or trade later, the premium you paid for the Hemi will come back to you not only in dollar value but quicker sale-lets face it , alot of people chose RAM trucks over the others because they want that HEMI !!!
 

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Hi everyone. So I'm having a dilemma in making a decision. Not sure if I need advice or just need to vent. Anyway, so I'm going to be getting my first truck soon. Now I've been a mopar guy all my life as far as classic cars go. I've had a '67 Dodge Dart, a '68 Plymouth Satellite, and a '72 Duster. But this will be my first truck ever and I know it's going to be a shock with gas cost and whatnot since my current car gets 32 mpg. Now if it was any other brand I would not hesitate to get a 6 cylinder but I feel it's almost sacrilegious not to get a hemi in a Ram. Just to make it clear, I have no current need or future plans to tow anything.
So there is my quandary; either I risk almost certain ridicule and get a Ram with a v6 or I deal with the higher cost of lower mpg and get a hemi. Anyone want to chime in? Have at it. :)



Really?? Ya can't think this for yourself?? this is totally personal preference, NOT something to be asked on a forum. When I buy a vehicle, I buy it for me, not what others think
 
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